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01-07-2015, 09:54 AM | #1 |
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| OMG my Duchess is the smartest yorkie in the whole wide world Not that I am bias or anything like that. Okay to help relieve bordem in the winter months, I've been training her on new commands. She learn to sit in less than 50 minutes. 3 ten minute sessions. I taugh her down and she picked it up in 20 minutes. Now we are working on high-five commands and she is gradually picking that up. I'm not even a trainer but she loves her boiled chicken and she will move mountains to get her chicken. She makes me look better than the dog whisperer. She even knows how to play football. When I say hike she takes off running. She's an awesome running back. I see a million dollar contract in her future. |
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01-07-2015, 10:08 AM | #2 |
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| Good for you and Duchess! Training a dog is so much fun and they just eat it up!
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
01-07-2015, 10:27 AM | #3 |
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| New Yorkie Daddy here (well almost). Anyway, I have been reading here and looking at alot of you tube on yorkies. Are they really this easy to train? Almost forgot WOW nice job!!!!! Last edited by nythirdgen; 01-07-2015 at 10:28 AM. |
01-07-2015, 10:35 AM | #4 |
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| Everyday I learn something new about her. But now that I how intelligent she is, I plan on enrolling her in some classes. I was thinking agility classes or something like that. Now if I can just get her to stop going all Cujo when she sees another dog. |
01-07-2015, 10:37 AM | #5 |
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| The two yorkies I had picked up things rather quickly. Both of them were highly motivated by treats. They are intelligent but some of them are just a lot more stubborn than others. |
01-07-2015, 10:54 AM | #6 |
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| Yorkies are very smart dogs and they get their bad rep as being hard to train by people who are lazy to train them. If they aren't stimulated they will act out. The easiest way to train them is to remember to lead their nose with a treat. Where their head moves the body will follow. This is the easy way to teach roll over. After they get "lay down" put the treat over their shoulder and have their head slowly follow until they have to roll over to get it. And since Duchess knows how to play football, how about basketball? You can get a little hoop in the Nerf section of the toy store. Uni loves basketball.
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01-07-2015, 11:08 AM | #7 | |
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Yikes! Haha!!! I didn't mean to rant on your thread or at you but am just trying to make a point on this public forum where many might read this thread. I certainly don't mean to pick on you! I, too, have used the term stubborn to describe a small dog's inability to learn a new trick quickly but having thought a lot about it since, I just wonder if we are too quick to brand our toy terriers, especially, with that term, dogs who honestly seem to want to learn once they are motivated and get the idea of what we want - I just think they are hampered by smaller, less effective brains than dogs seven, eight times their size; and once we accept that and deal with it, we train our toy dogs with more understanding, patience and love. Yorkies are very, very smart dogs once they understand what we are trying to communicate to them and no other dog can outwork them!
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01-07-2015, 11:18 AM | #8 | |
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At some point I wouldn't use the treats and I would tell her to sit without the treats and depending on if she was in the mood she would sit. And then when she did sit, it was almost like "okay I'll do it but I really don't want too" and when she finally sat, it was only like for a few seconds. I would tell her to sit just so I could have a laugh. She was too funny. If I had treats, she would sit every single time. If that ain't being stubborn I know what is. But Dutch will sit every time with or without treats. | |
01-07-2015, 12:02 PM | #9 |
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| Congrats on all your progress. When we met Gina for the first time we could see the gears in her head moving very very fast. We've had Gina in classes for a year and a half, though she doesn't need them anymore, she loves the socialization, and showing off what she can do. Gina is by far far the smartest dog I've ever had, and I've had some smart ones including my last Yorkie, Megan. Gina has passed every class from puppy to advanced 2 and passed the Canine Good Citizenship test, ad she can be stubborn when told to do something without a treat, but I just tell her wrong and give the command again. Wrong is also very useful for begining training, it lets them know that they didn't do the right command. Good luck with your further training, and I would suggest getting her in some classes, the solization will do her a lot og good. Cheers Quad & Gina
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01-07-2015, 12:31 PM | #10 | |
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__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
01-07-2015, 12:36 PM | #11 | |
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Brain size does not = intelligence. Otherwise, human intelligence would average in line with the mean size for our brains (around 4lbs). We know that intelligence varies but the size of human brains do not vary much. As a neurology researcher, I just couldn't pass this comment up! It is interesting to see how some of our perceptions come about! Last edited by SirTeddykins; 01-07-2015 at 12:39 PM. | |
01-07-2015, 12:51 PM | #12 |
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| I don't know about the brain size and all of that stuff. I just used the word stubborn more out of a term of endearment. Whether it is technically correct, I will leave up to those who are infinitely more intelligent than me. I am actually more excited at being able to train them then them being trained! For so long they were training me now I am happy to say I have taken my rightful position as leader of the pack finally. |
01-07-2015, 12:54 PM | #13 | |
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01-07-2015, 01:01 PM | #14 | |
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I've never personally trained an Afghan hound so I cannot speak to that breed but perhaps, as they have relatively small heads to their overall body size, they have a similar deceased learning brain structure as little dogs do, just need more motivation/repetition to learn. That's just as possible as them being stubborn. What's in it for the dog to be stubborn and forego his treat and praise? They are all about instant gratification and fun when it's there to be had. Trouble is, so many trainers do it with little gusto or effort and as if the dog were in the military, grinding out commands.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
01-07-2015, 01:11 PM | #15 | |
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Your experience and perceptions are valid, so I cannot argue those and have no desire to contradict those apart from to say that science does not back up the causation you have attributed to your experiences. The bolded section of your text does suggest that your expectations are going someway towards the success of training when comparing big dogs to little dogs. Our expectations for any event will impact the outcome as all sentient beings, human or animal, are not "passive" agents of learning but active and transactional. In other words, animals do not just soak up learning and we do not just instruct learning. We affect each other by the our expectations, communications, personalities etc and this has no relation to the size of the brain. The brain structure is not relative to learning ability for individuals within the same species with the exception of structural damage or compromised integrity. In answer to your question re: trainability with dogs, I have found the opposite experience. I have found larger dogs much harder to train beyond basic commands but again, could this be down to my own bias towards smaller breeds? Could be? Learning does not = intelligence but the willingness to learn through acknowledgement of error does = intelligence. For example, big dogs are happy for a piece of cheese to do as their told but a little dog may weight the pros and cons of a treat ie. does this treat outweigh the discomfort (awareness of this possibility from past experience??) that may follow? The ability to think beyond immediate gratification is a sign of intelligence. Finally, I can overthink nothing. I am very tired as my metabolism is increasing faster than my biological age and I can rarely stay up and think coherently past 9 p.m. Sadly, my clock shows the time as 9:03 p.m.! Last edited by SirTeddykins; 01-07-2015 at 01:15 PM. | |
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