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12-21-2014, 06:28 AM | #1 |
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| collar vs harness I was told that you're not suppose to put the leash on the collar because you can collapse their trachea. So I've always used the easy walk harness. I recently started classed with him and he wasn't responding to me. The trainer told me to put the leash on his collar. I stated my concern and she assured me it wasn't anything to be concerned about. I've tried it and he does walk better and definitely doesn't pull....probably because he's afraid his neck will snap if he does any sudden movements. Can anyone assure me this isn't a big deal and that I can continue to do it this way, or am I setting myself up for a collapsed trachea or something. I realize she's a professional dog trainer and knows what she's talking about. Just wanted other opinions. And he is a big 10 pound yorkie... almost 1 years old. |
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12-21-2014, 06:38 AM | #2 |
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| No I do not walk on a neck collar.
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12-21-2014, 07:10 AM | #3 |
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| I do not use collars. I only use a harness. To me it isn't worth taking a chance. I would talk to my vet and discuss your concerns.
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12-21-2014, 07:37 AM | #4 |
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| I just took obedience classes with my 3 y/o 12 pounder, I used his harness. With all the pulling and lunging my boy did,my trainer never told me to hook leash to his collar, nor would I had if she told me to. If she told me it would not have any affect on my yorkie,I would have found another trainer. Do not hook leash to collar, use harness only. I had a dog (now past) that was walked with leash to collar, she was a puller, this was years ago, I was never told to use harness only on these small breeds, I never heard of CT. She was 5 y/o coughing, coughing, I thought it was the start of a heart condition, vet said it was CT. From that day forward all my dogs went on harnesses. I use a collar only for tags & his micro-chip ID.
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12-21-2014, 07:52 AM | #5 |
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| I also took Lexi to a professional dog trainer. The flier said to use a collar, but when I asked her about it she said it was okay to use a harness. Not all trainers, even very good ones, understand the dangers of a collar with these little dogs. |
12-21-2014, 09:59 AM | #6 |
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| She is a trainer not a vet and apparently does not specialize in small dogs. I used a collar for my puppy her first few months and about a year from that she was diagnosed with ct and she is 17 pounds. A collar should only ever be used for tags not a leash.
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12-21-2014, 02:21 PM | #7 |
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| Walking on a collar alone does not cause CT -- but it CAN aggravate CT for a dog who already has it. In the grand scheme of things, a dog that is not pulling, and is walked on a collar isn't THAT bad. I do use slip collars for quick pee trips outside when he doesn't have a harness on and I don't feel like dealing with it. However, I prefer harnesses for multiple reasons but do understand why trainers prefer collars at times. Most trainers know dogs have been taught to pull on harnesses - think sled dogs. However, I believe a dog can just as easily be trained to not pull on a harness. Jackson is 18lbs and wears a harness. I like being able to easily lift him into my arms out of potential danger, it also just seems more comfortable, I worry less about yanking by accident, etc. I just prefer harnesses.
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12-21-2014, 02:33 PM | #8 |
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| My trainer did the same thing to Billi since her harness doesn't have a front clasp. She makes up a million excuses that the leash being behind her scares her or that it's easier to control them when you can yank the leash and make them look at you (not in a bad way, it's hard to describe, but I would never allow anyone to harm my babies)- no matter what she says, I refuse to let her put the leash on her collar. She tried to sneak it when she did one on one work with her and I about read her the riot act. Point blank, no leash on their collar, especially if they aren't in charge of their vet bills. They don't have to deal with the life-long complications of it, we do.
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12-21-2014, 02:35 PM | #9 | |
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12-21-2014, 03:31 PM | #10 |
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| Very true! Another reason I prefer harnesses.
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12-21-2014, 04:39 PM | #11 |
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| We had a larger dog growing up I swear was a master at getting out of them we tried every kind every brand.
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02-17-2015, 03:02 AM | #12 |
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| I only prefer collars. By wearing collars my pet feel very safe. It does not irritate my pet. I can choose any color that I want. There are other benefits of collars which a normal person that does not know like by wearing this you will be assure that your pet is near to you, it is very easy to find out your pet if he/she goes missing. |
02-17-2015, 10:30 AM | #13 | |
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02-17-2015, 11:13 AM | #14 | |
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another dogs charges and not harm your dog, can you swiftly pick up your dog that has leash attached to it's collar without harming your dogs throat / neck?
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02-17-2015, 11:49 AM | #15 |
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| Saw this article which is bit old but brings good points for harness vs collar. collar vs. harness | blog for outdoor dogs I put ID tags on both the collar and harness for my own peace of mind. But I only use the harness for any time I take him outdoors. I put both harness and the collar b/c the collar also has the rabies tag and licence tag which is required by law when we go to a more crowded places like outdoor mall. But I never put the leash on the collar. Also, with Matese's statement about needing to pick up your dog quickly in cases of dangers, this happened to me few times and was glad I had them in a harness. Especially with Zoey who's only 5.5 lbs. So I think this is something you really should consider. |
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