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Old 12-10-2014, 11:52 AM   #1
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Default Picking up our rescue dog today.

I am brand new here. I am going to pick up my yorkie today. He is a rescue from a puppy mill that has been shut down. I have been going back and forth with the woman who is rehoming him with tons of questions. She says that he is short ( she has a 9 month old yorkie who is taller than him) and he weighs 9.2 Pounds. My question is i have a dog crate that is 20 in long, 12 in tall, and 12 in wide. Ive been looking at average sizes of yorkies and think this will work. What do you think? I just really dont want to ask the woman any more questions as she is at work and ive been blowing her phone up with questions the past 2 days.
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Welcome to YT, sorry can't help you with the crate measurements, I would like to thank you for rescuing this little boy. Please keep us up-dated in his adjustment to his new life, in a new home, with new loving family.
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Thank you for helping this little rescue and taking on the issues that some of them have with an open, loving heart. People who help these dogs, little creatures who've known nothing but cages and deprivation, who are so needful of real, responsible love, a regular schedule that includes trust and confidence building activities, lots of exercise, play, fun, training, inclusion in the family, stability and sometimes infinite patience. They are worth all the effort and you are an angel for taking a former mill dog!

For the short periods of time your dog will be crated - when you are too busy to supervise her out in the house, have to run an errand during housebreaking training, all a dog needs is a crate big enough to stand up, turn around in and still have room for bedding, water, food and a poop pad for emergency situations. Too big a crate may encourage pooping in the crate rather than training them in holding their bladder/bowel.

The rest of the time, your dog should be out living its life with you and learning how to be a real dog.
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Initially, I thought it was a little small. Measured my 10 pounder, your crate should work just to transport home... we didn't use a crate to transport, ours was pretty happy in our laps. We did have a collar and leash though. Congrats on the adoption!
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Puppy mill rescues are kept in crates their whole lives. I usually recommend people use baby gates in kitches or bathrooms and potty pads. A puppy mill rescue won't know not to use the crate as a bathroom. You can get a crate as a source of familiarity and comfort for the transition but I would leave the door open. Thank you for rescuing, there is lots of information about how to socialize and potty train these guys, good luck!
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I would not put your 9lb Yorkie rescue in a crate that small for any length of time. Has this woman been working on house training him? Puppy mill dogs are kept in small cages all their lives so they are accustomed to pottying in their cage. He has been trained to pee and poo in a cage so putting him in the crate is not going to work as an aid to potty training.

Have you ever taken care of a puppy mill dog? If you haven't you may need to have some help. Here is a link to a YT article about rehabbing a puppy mill dog although it is not all inclusive it is a start.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...nt-advice.html

Remember that all dogs are individuals. You will need to get to know this poor guy and find out what his needs are.
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yes i work from home so I have all intentions of having him out as much as possible. He is three and has been a stud in a puppy mill his whole life. But the woman who rescued him said he is crate trained and is comfortable in a crate. I only intend to use it to bring him home, to sleep in, and to let him retreat if he feels stressed. I would love to never have to leave him home as i know most yorkies suffer from seperation anxiety, but we will just have to see how he does in the car. Thanks for your help and i will keep you updated.
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He's a blessed and lucky boy to have you. Hope tonight goes very well for you guys! Can't wait to hear what you named him and how he fares in his adjustment to live on the "outside" of his prison.

Not a big fan of HUSA but here's some information on crate size from their website and another website that pretty much agree on the size a crate should be.

Crate Training : The Humane Society of the United States

A Trainer's Truth About Crates | Modern Dog magazine

Think of the crate as a hideaway, a tiny, private den, small and cozy. Mainly, crates are used to temporarily house your dog when you can't be watching him until he's housebroken so they don't need to be living-quarter sized or big enough to romp in - just big enough for the dog to stand up and turn around in, sleep with his legs outstretched. If the crate is too big, the dog will eliminate in one end and retreat to the other, which doesn't hasten the dog to hold his pee or poop at all.
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I must have missed something, I thought your crate was to just transport from the rescue to your home.
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I picked Piper up, literally; set her in the seat next to me, and she ended up nestled next to my leg for the entire drive home (@45min). I just wanted her to be as comfortable as possible and feel very safe...who knows what she must have been thinking...All the best to you and your new little partner!
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Hi everyone. That k you for your advice and support. This far the transition has been amazing. I went in hoping for the best but expecting the worst. He really isn't that bad. He is very loving and loves to be held. He did great on his leash at bathroom breaks. He kept barking when he was in his crate last night (we ggot a slightly bigger one than the one listed above) the woman said that he has been sleeping in a crate no problem. Since he kept barking I put him in bed between my husband and I had no problems. The only problem we are having is him marking his territory. We have another male dog in the house who is fixed. We have a belly band on him for marking but he is doing great with actually using the bathroom outside. Oh and we named him bo.
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Puppy mill rescues are kept in crates their whole lives. I usually recommend people use baby gates in kitches or bathrooms and potty pads. A puppy mill rescue won't know not to use the crate as a bathroom. You can get a crate as a source of familiarity and comfort for the transition but I would leave the door open. Thank you for rescuing, there is lots of information about how to socialize and potty train these guys, good luck!
Definitely agree with this statement. My last yorkie was a rescue from a backyard breeder. As a result she spent most of her time in the crate. When I got her, (because of lack of knowledge) I would put Brandi in her crate while I would run errands. Big mistake....I would come home to a mess. I was giving her a bath and cleaning the crate almost every day

She was so used to potting in her crate, it didn't bother her. Finally I worked with her until she was fully potty trained. And while she was in training, I got a huge expen which helped a lot. Once she was potty trained, I gave her run of the entire house and she never ever went into a crate or ex-pen again unless we were at someone else's house and it was for safety reasons.

I would go with a nice size expen or huge crate that' has enough room so that he won't step in his poop. I would come home and Brandi would be literally sleeping in her poo. But I understood she was like that because of her background. And I would just clean it up. I never once scolded her. I only gave her praise when she potty in the right place.
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Welcome to YT, sorry can't help you with the crate measurements, I would like to thank you for rescuing this little boy. Please keep us up-dated in his adjustment to his new life, in a new home, with new loving family.
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Happy to hear all went well in bringing lil Bo to his new home and your bed lol, spoil, spoil, spoil this little boy. How did your dog accept the new kid entering his turf.
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Thanks for rescuing this little guy! I can't offer any help with the crate since I have no experience with a puppy mill adult dog but I know me and Freedom would be a word I would use frequently around my home if I were to bring one in. So I say x-pen with maybe a smaller closed in crate so your little man has a place to go for security if he needs it. I'm sure I stand to be corrected and if by chance I ever bring in a rescue that has been treated poorly in any way I will be asking questions here too! I just mostly wanted to say thanks!!!
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