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10-26-2014, 01:43 PM | #1 |
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| Breeding question Hi All, My family and I are doing the research on yorkies as a possible family addition. One of my favorite memories as a child was when we bred basset hounds. I'd like to recreate this experience for my kids. I have no interest in breeding show quality dogs, just great pets. With that in mind, I have been coming across lots and lots of Yorkie designer hybrids that are absolutely adorable. SO we are considering getting a pure bred yorkie and possibly going hybrid with breeding. So, here's some questions. When you buy an AKC puppy, do you have to pay the breeder price if you aren't going to have purebred puppies? Since the AKC is a registration database of purebred dogs, why would a seller care (if the dog was large enough to safely breed) if we weren't going to be registering the hybrid puppies. Secondly, the yorkies I'm coming across (in my area, Portland OR and southern Wa) are WAY more expensive than others across the country. I'm finding non champ bloodlines for $2000 and up. Is this normal? Is it just the time of year? Thanks for all the info!!! |
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10-26-2014, 01:55 PM | #2 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Many show breeders will not sell a breeding female to someone who wants to be breeding mixed dogs, in fact most breed clubs disallow breeder members from breeding mixed breeds, and yes that includes the marketing term of designer dogs. They are mixed breeds pure and simple. If you want a dog to breed, yes indeed at the minimum you will need to pay the price for a breeding dog.
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10-26-2014, 02:11 PM | #3 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I also suggest a number of things here: Go to our Library and the Breeding Section; to at least familiarize yourself with the breeding of Yorkies. go to the Health Section and really learn what are *all* the genetic and other health problems Yorkies have. Learn what and how to screen for these health problems, as you don't want to be perpetuating poor health in my breed. After all a great pet first must be a healthy pet. Now go to the Sick and Emergency section and read up first hand on the financial and emotional cost of LS< LP, PRA, Charia, PDA, HD, Leggs Perthes, Cataracts, and sensitive stomachs/digestion issues, allergies and the likes. And if you do actually find how to safely breed and know ahead that this Yorkie will produce healthy puppies with Breed X Y Z, I would appreciate the studies that have looked at this situation.
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10-26-2014, 02:14 PM | #4 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | You need to do a lot more research, you have quite a few misconceptions. It's very difficult to produce a "show quality dog," but no one should ever breed just to produce pets. When you say, "Yorkie designer hybrid" the real definition is called a mutt, and while there's nothing wrong with them, we have plenty of them in the pound that we kill each year. You need to learn why people started purebred breeding in the first place. Breeders wanted to produce a predictable dog for a particular task. Physical traits as well as behavioral traits were important. Nowadays, , we don’t buy a dog so much for a certain task, but more for pet, but it’s still important for buyers to understand the temperament and physical traits of a dog. Little things like the wrong coat type can turn a dog into a grooming nightmare, and people need to understand the activity levels of the dogs they choose so that it’s a good fit. When a puppy buyer can predict what an adult dog will look like and how it will behave, they are much more likely to keep it, instead of sending it off to the pound. I recommend reading these two articles, http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...-answered.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html
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10-26-2014, 02:32 PM | #5 |
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| It's very difficult to get a nice quality Yorkshire Terrier with breeding rights. I'm in the northeast and $2000 is pretty much what you can expect to pay for a pet puppy with agreement to have him/her spayed/neutered. Responsible breeders are very concerned about the homes their puppies go to and will not allow them to be used for breeding. Most will also cringe at the thought of deliberate mutt breeding. There's already more than enough of that happening by accident, it seems.
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10-26-2014, 03:26 PM | #6 | |
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The years and years and years and the amount of work and education and trial and error and blood and sweat and tears and heartbreak and money and showing that goes into breeding Yorkshire Terriers that look like Yorkies are supposed to look, maintaining that look down through many years, as determined by the breed standard, will keep a reputable breeder from allowing her pups to go into a novice breeding home. (This quality of a dog, plus the breeding rights, can easily run you $2500.00 on the way lo end, up to as much as they can get for an excellent well placed show dog...$7000.00+.) They MAY consider parting with a retired winning show dog, with breeding rights, to a home with an experienced Yorkie breeder, who is knowledgable of pedigrees and lines and everything that goes with all that experience. They will not often let their dogs go out to be bred with any dog that does not stand with the quality and lineage of the breeder's lineage and quality. There are way toooo many genetic issues that can occur when dogs are bred without extensive knowledge of what is behind the breeding pair. Likewise, breeding for designer/hybrid dogs are not something a reputable breeder would allow with their quality pup. Way too much effort has been made by way too many dedicated, long time, experienced breeders to allow mixing dogs. Pounds and rescues are full of these adorable mixes! Why not save one of those adorable little sweethearts? | |
10-26-2014, 03:53 PM | #7 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | To Momofcrazies: First Welcome to YT, I did not realize it was your first post! You have obviously touched upon a subject matter near and dear to many members here. As you are new, note that your first few posts will be moderated so that there will be a delay in seeing your responses posted to this thread. Breeding is a very serious undertaking, and not lightly should one put their female at risk lightly. To have your children experience the miracle of birth, can be found in other ways; YouTube videos, making friends with a Breeder and asking to observe this miracle. The stark reality is that a reputable breeder will not place into the hands of a novice breeder a Yorkie female, and most especially if they know she is destined to produce mix breeds. A purebred breeder is just that, a purebred breeder, we believe in the value and the specialness of purebred dogs. When you mix two pure breds together you don't get a purebred dog, you get a mix. And you do have a mis-conception that many members of the public have, is that a show breeder breeds only to produce show quality dogs. When in fact we actually hope to produce one or two very fine dogs out of 5 or more litters. The balance of the pups go to pet homes. But our goal is to produce and to better the breed we have been entrusted with. Did you know that Shelters are rife with dogs bred by your next door neighbour folks who had no idea what it costs and how to place puppies into good homes. But the thing is you came here to learn, so take the time to do so. Read and Read and Read more.
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