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08-27-2014, 06:30 AM | #1 |
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| Collapsed Trachea how is it detected by a Vet Cody has been doing some coughing this week, I don’t know what a reversed sneeze sounds like. Yearsssss back I had one yorkie that had CT and that was due to her constant pulling on her leash that was attached to her collar. Back then vets did not advise against using collars. She was about 9 years old and coughing constantly, I took her to the vet, she had CT, she was given no meds. (this does back to the early to mid 90’s) I asked how that happened, vet said does she pull when she’s walked, yes she does, vet said it was from the collar and pulling. Vet did not even suggested to use a harness, that was something I knew I had to do, and got harnesses for all 3 of my girls. Since joining YT I have learned CT is very common in the yorkie breed. So I hear my boy cough I pay attention, how often does he cough, does he cough every day, does he cough several times a day, are all coughs sounding the same, does he cough after running around the yard like a grey hound on a hot day, etc. Yesterday he was in the house, no excitement, did not just drink water, just started this coughing. He doesn’t cough every day, just sometimes. But I never take chances and now knowing this breed has CT issues is of great concern to me. He is going to the vet on Friday for allergies, I am telling my vet about the coughing, so my question is….how does a vet check for CT. Is there more than one way, is blood work involved. I need to know as much as possible to insure what ever testing is needed gets done. Thanks for any and all replies.
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08-27-2014, 06:51 AM | #2 |
YT 500 Club Member | How old is Cody? I have the same problem with my 5 month old Yorkie. He does cough everyday but not a terrible cough. A quick cough that lasts about a second. Sometimes when he drinks or sometimes when he is over excited or scratches his neck. Don't let them do the xray because that is not the best test because they have to catch the collapse at the time the picture is taken. There is a more accurate test but I think it is more expensive. Talk to your vet. My vet just pressed Sammies neck and he coughed so she said he has CT. Good luck and keep us updated. I would be interested whereas I think my puppy has it to. |
08-27-2014, 06:52 AM | #3 |
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| Lexi has been coughing since I got her and she is now 8 months old. It started with coughing after she drinks, but not every time. Now she will cough when I take her out for a walk. She wears a harness, but she pulls really hard, and she will sometimes cough. She usually has a coughing episode about 2-5 times a day and each one she will have 2-5 coughs. I took her to the vet and she only put some pressure on her neck and was able to elicit a cough which is a good indication of CT. I know there are tests that can be done to know check the severity, but my vet did not recommend any yet since the coughs are still mild and not causing her any discomfort. If it does seem to get worse I will be taking her back to the vet to see about testing and medication. I have also looked at a lot of videos on youtube of CT, and I think it is impossible to tell just by the sound of the cough. Many that I saw sounded completely different. Some lower pitch, some higher. Here is a video of Lexi coughing. Everyone thinks its Kennel cough because of how it sounds, but I know 100% it is not KC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpY...Q1m4a-_s4AhWTg |
08-27-2014, 07:14 AM | #4 | |
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08-27-2014, 07:19 AM | #5 | |
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08-27-2014, 07:24 AM | #6 | |
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08-27-2014, 07:33 AM | #7 |
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| Another similar thread was started not long ago. There is information on it about how CT is diagnosed. Actually CT is not common in the breed. It is commonly found more often in certain breeds than in others, but that does not translate to common in general. Here is that thread... http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ea-survey.html
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08-27-2014, 09:17 AM | #8 |
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| The only way to know for sure if it is CT is an xray. It will actually show the narrowing, how much narrower and the location and extent of the narrowing. There is more available now for treatment than ever before and usually will work. There are cases where nothing will help much and I suspect in those cases it could be a neurological problem coupled with the trachea collapse due to compromised cartilage. The common treatment is hycodan for coughing along with short doses of prednisone. However, the side effects of these drugs can be a bit much. The injectible treatment for cartilage issues in knees and joints seems to work most of the time in helping the cartilage issue of the trachea although the drug Cartrophen or when it is available, Adequan, is not labeled for trachea collapse, it has provided dramatic improvement. I have a Yorkie that had a collapse trachea. It showed up on the xray and the collapse involved quite a large section of trachea. Hycodan and prednisone didn't work so I heard of the injectible drug and he was put on Adequan. Six months or so later we repeated the xray and found except for a small bit of the trachea, most of it recovered to normal size. We don't know why the small portion did not recover as well. Eventually he was coughing a bit again, he is now 11 years old, CT started at 9 years old. When he started coughing again at about 10 years old xray revealed a lung condition, chronic bronchitis. He is still with me has bad days and good days. He still gets injections about every 3 weeks, 4 weeks is too long in between. Some days he gets hycodan as required, sometimes I also add prednisone. Another drug he gets sometimes when the coughing is persistent is cerenia. Cerenia will tell the brain not to cough. Coughing can irritate the trachea and make the coughing worse. Controlling the coughing bouts is important. |
08-27-2014, 09:21 AM | #9 | |
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08-27-2014, 03:39 PM | #10 | |
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Especially the part about Xrays...they will not conclusively diagnose CT, nor will a physical exam. The only definitive way to diagnose CT is with a flouroscopy because it shows the trachea on inspiration and expiration. Yes, it can be diagnosed by manipulation and xrays, but it can also be missed by those!
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08-27-2014, 03:41 PM | #11 | |
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Another drug I have used with some success is Lomotil.
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08-27-2014, 03:52 PM | #12 |
YT 500 Club Member | I am confused because I did have a dog with CT and they took and x ray and she showed me where the trachea was narrowed. But he did have an enlarge heart at the time so maybe due to the heart pressing on the treachea it was always narrowed. |
08-27-2014, 06:24 PM | #13 | |
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Again, the only definitive way is by fluouroscopy. I am not saying it cannot be diagnosed by xray.
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08-27-2014, 06:26 PM | #14 |
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| Here: https://www.acvs.org/small-animal/tracheal-collapse From that site: Diagnostics: In general, the following tests are recommended to diagnose the degree of collapse, provide a clear picture of overall health and evaluate your pet: bloodwork to look at overall health chest x-rays (Figure 2, 3) may help with the diagnosis in some pets, and are useful for ruling out other conditions and looking at the size of the heart. Tracheal collapse is not always visible on regular x-rays. fluoroscopy ̶ a moving x-ray ̶ will allow your primary care veterinarian to check the condition of your dog's trachea when it is breathing in and out (Figure 4). This is important since the size of the trachea can change depending on if your dog is breathing in or out. endoscopy ̶ viewing the inside of the trachea with a fiber optic camera ̶ provides the best detail of the inside of the airway (Figure 5) and allows your veterinarian to take fluid samples for culture and analysis echocardiogram ̶ an ultrasound of the hear ̶ to evaluate cardiac function
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