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Old 11-18-2013, 04:55 PM   #1
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well as the topic.

just last sunday, a golden bit him, no injuries though. the goldie is a neighbors dog that has been quite tolerant towards mocca, my yorkie, guess last week he snapped!

a gentle bite but mocca "scream" in pain. I was hoping after this mocca will stop charging at huge dogs or any other dogs, but last night during our daily dog gathering, he is still the same.

he knows he cant do it as every time he starts barking and charging at dogs i will run after him and "hit" his butt. he will always have the "guilty looks"...

oh... he never response once he charges....

any idea how to rectify this behavior?
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Put him on a leash.

The next time it might not be the neighbor's tolerant Golden he decides to charge after. The results could be much more tragic.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:36 PM   #3
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Put him on a leash.

The next time it might not be the neighbor's tolerant Golden he decides to charge after. The results could be much more tragic.
leash is a great idea but he will start barking non stop until he smells the other party..... i want to find a way to stop this behavior if there is any.
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Put him on a leash. Take him within site of another dog, if no reaction give him a treat, if he reacts say firm no! And turn away. Then try again. When he can see the other dog without reacting, slowly move a little closer and treat if no reaction and firm no! And turn away if he reacts.
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Put him on a leash. Take him within site of another dog, if no reaction give him a treat, if he reacts say firm no! And turn away. Then try again. When he can see the other dog without reacting, slowly move a little closer and treat if no reaction and firm no! And turn away if he reacts.
nice technique. will try.
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I have similar issue with Magnus. He's ok with the big dogs he knows but with the ones he doesn't, it almost seems like he wants to fight. When I try to turn around and walk the other way, Magnus won't budge. He'll try harder to charge. A guy I know that trains big dogs says pulling him away when he's in that mode is just fueling him more.

So now I stand in front of him, blocking his view and try to distract him with a treat. Once he calms down, he gets a treat. I get him to sit, stay, and gets another treat. I keep a treat in front of him while letting him watch the other dog and wait for the other dog to be far enough where I know Magnus won't react. Then he gets the praise and the treat.

He haven't fully trained but I'm seeing improvements. I'm just glad he's food driven.

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Old 11-18-2013, 07:29 PM   #7
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trains big dogs says pulling him away when he's in that mode is just fueling him more.
this statement is absolutely correct!

i tried once leashed him, he went bazooka... even if i hit him, he seems to turn into super dog, no pain...

the problem is, i think he treat it as his way of greeting other dogs.. he will bark and charge but once he reached the dog, he will stop and walk back as if nothing happened.

i would have thought he was been possessed....

i think he thinks he is a rottweiler.... same colour different size....
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I have similar issue with Magnus. He's ok with the big dogs he knows but with the ones he doesn't, it almost seems like he wants to fight. When I try to turn around and walk the other way, Magnus won't budge. He'll try harder to charge. A guy I know that trains big dogs says pulling him away when he's in that mode is just fueling him more.

So now I stand in front of him, blocking his view and try to distract him with a treat. Once he calms down, he gets a treat. I get him to sit, stay, and gets another treat. I keep a treat in front of him while letting him watch the other dog and wait for the other dog to be far enough where I know Magnus won't react. Then he gets the praise and the treat.

He haven't fully trained but I'm seeing improvements. I'm just glad he's food driven.
Much better than pulling away!
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Put him on a leash and walk him right next to you, in step with your legs. Put your body between him and any other dog. If you see a big dog turn around and walk the other direction, as soon as he sees another dog lead him away from it before he becomes agitated by it. Praise him if he is able to walk away without making too much of a fuss. Please don't hit him, this is not teaching him anything. You must show him what you want him to do instead of the behavior he is doing, treats help in the beginning.
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You should never hit to correct bad behavior. The advice above is how I trained mine also. Treat for ignoring the other dog. Eventually they learn gentleness toward others gets a reward.
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Please use a leash! My Rocky is great with other small dogs but he sees big dogs as a threat and tries to attack! Unfortunately, I did not understand the importance of a leash when Rocky was younger and he tried to go after a German Shepherd. Rocky ended up badly injured and is now blind in one eye. The attack only made him more afraid of big dogs and more aggressive towards them.
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You should never hit to correct bad behavior. The advice above is how I trained mine also. Treat for ignoring the other dog. Eventually they learn gentleness toward others gets a reward.


I know they have dog trainers in Singapore...perhaps you could get a few lessons for your pup? Good Luck!
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Lots of good advice, but I have to add DO whatever you can to protect him from himself. I had the same problem with my last male Kirby, many here have heard the story but I repeat it since it continues to educate others on how an aggressive yorkie needs to be protected from himself. Kirby was always on a leash but starting as a puppy he would go after any dog that crossed his path. I had several neighbors that through the years we managed to be able to walk our dogs together, when keeping him moving forward he would not focus on my friends dog. My neighbor has a Weimerimer named Kendal, we had just finished a 45 min walk when we stopped to talk with someone at her home. we were standing there talking for about 5 min. and not paying attention to the dogs, when all of a sudden my Kirby lunged underneath the Weim and jumped up to bite her, her natural instinct to protect herself kicked in and Kendal bit him back, by the time we pulled them apart Kirby had a huge gash in his neck that he could not survive. I could not believe that this could happen just while standing there talking with two dogs on leashes. Just a few moments of not paying attention was all it took, I also believe that if Kirby just stood there her dog would have done the same, it's sad to say but Kirby brought it on. Just think how often you stop to talk to someone while walking your dog, or you see a few people standing talking with dogs on leashes, that's all we were doing, it pretty common, but I should have picked him up, and not let my guard down. Hindsight for me does no good at this point, but my message is when you have a small aggressive dog you have to be on alert all the time when in public with them. We did training and I tried lots of puppy socialization but the other dog moms were not willing to get together after a few play dates with Kirby, because all the dogs were afraid of him, it was a shame really because he had so much energy, just not always the right type. Good luck with you little guy.
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I should add probably why I did not pick him up, was he was not fond of being held and would go crazy if anyone or any dog walked by, I would try to turn him away but his head and neck would be moving like crazy along with aggressive barking and lunging to get out of my arms. I would try to comfort him and hold his face but it was either use force to keep his head under control and his mouth shut or I felt like he might break his neck. He was just barely 4lbs and sort of a frail build but when he did not want to be controlled he had the strength of at least 50 lbs. I was always afraid of hurting him, grooming him was a nightmare since he used the same aggression on the brush and comb that he did on other dogs. He acted the same when someone would come to the door, it was sad since I think he was an unhappy dog and I felt all I ever did was try to control him, while he just wanted to run loose all over the place which of course I could not allow.
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