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Old 10-31-2013, 12:58 PM   #1
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My little girl.. I just dont know what to do! During the day while I am at work I have to lock her up in her crate. I bought an extra large crate so she would have room to go to the bathroom, play, and sleep. It could fit a 100 pound dog and shes 3 pounds lol. I work a 9-10 hour day. Luckily my sister is home a lot so she is not in the crate all day.. usually only a few hours. The problem is EVERYDAY I get home she has made a mess. She pees and poops in the crate and for some reason has to do it anywhere BUT on the puppy pad.. If its poop she will go then walk in it so its all over her and all over the crate. It takes forever to clean the huge crate and then I have to bathe her every single day . I really am at a loss of what to do . Does anyone have any advice or been through this?
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I went through the exact same thing. It was awful and I tried everything. Ellie would literally rolled in the poop. I finally ended up just having to buy like an exercise pen and I kept her in there in my bathroom and she stopped making messes. Now my problem is I can't fin a pen big enough for her not to jump out of lol
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An x-pen works better for me.....when you say "crate", do you mean "carrier" or a wire crate that we kennel dogs in at dog shows, usually approx. 28 x 40 inches? If you actually do have a crate, which is a wire "cage" for kenneling a dog, you can put pee pads in the tray in the bottom, put him a bed on one end, and his food/water right by his bed so he has the other end to do potty in. I think an x-pen would be better for a little baby that is confined for so much of the day....you can put that carrier with his bed inside it...like a man cave kinda thing....and position the x-pen around the carrier, so he can run around inside the xpen, and then go into his carrier for sleeping. Cover the entire floor that is enclosed by the x-pen with the pee pads....as time goes by, and he gets older, you can pull up some of the pads and just leave them in one area of the x-pen for him to use for potty. My dogs are crated from around 10pm until 8am...then everyone is up and running around....everyone goes back down for naps at 1pm-4pm, and then everyone is back up, playing, interacting with family, etc, until it is time to go down for the night. Schedules work super, and when they go back into their crates, I cover them with a sheet, and everyone knows it is time to go to sleep.....if you have someone that is home during the day when you are at work, maybe they can play with the baby for several hours, then return baby to the x-pen....then you can take over when you get home! Baby needs plenty of valuable, quality time with you and play time.....then the time he has to be crated wont be as bad on his psyche.
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I went through the exact same thing. It was awful and I tried everything. Ellie would literally rolled in the poop. I finally ended up just having to buy like an exercise pen and I kept her in there in my bathroom and she stopped making messes. Now my problem is I can't fin a pen big enough for her not to jump out of lol
You could always check out the xpen I got for my pup. It's the medium xpen by richell, it's 30" high, but you can but the top that snaps over the frame for when your baby is left alone. It's really nice and large, and with the top they can't climb out. It's a bit more expensive, but one of the best investments I ever made. It also has a tray under the whole bottom to protect your floors which is an added bonus.

This is where I bought mine after searching for the best price, and they have free shipping too :-)
http://www.dogbedsandcrates.com/prod...rcise-pen.html
@ the OP, this could also work for you, as its long and wide enough to establish a sleep area, food area and potty area. You could even put a small crate at one end with the bed in it, to seperate sleeping and playing.

If you scroll down to the bottom of the page you will find the top which you have to buy seperate.

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An x-pen works better for me.....when you say "crate", do you mean "carrier" or a wire crate that we kennel dogs in at dog shows, usually approx. 28 x 40 inches? If you actually do have a crate, which is a wire "cage" for kenneling a dog, you can put pee pads in the tray in the bottom, put him a bed on one end, and his food/water right by his bed so he has the other end to do potty in. I think an x-pen would be better for a little baby that is confined for so much of the day....you can put that carrier with his bed inside it...like a man cave kinda thing....and position the x-pen around the carrier, so he can run around inside the xpen, and then go into his carrier for sleeping. Cover the entire floor that is enclosed by the x-pen with the pee pads....as time goes by, and he gets older, you can pull up some of the pads and just leave them in one area of the x-pen for him to use for potty. My dogs are crated from around 10pm until 8am...then everyone is up and running around....everyone goes back down for naps at 1pm-4pm, and then everyone is back up, playing, interacting with family, etc, until it is time to go down for the night. Schedules work super, and when they go back into their crates, I cover them with a sheet, and everyone knows it is time to go to sleep.....if you have someone that is home during the day when you are at work, maybe they can play with the baby for several hours, then return baby to the x-pen....then you can take over when you get home! Baby needs plenty of valuable, quality time with you and play time.....then the time he has to be crated wont be as bad on his psyche.
She is in one of the big wire crates with the tray in the bottom. She is only in there for a few hours a day most days. My sister takes her out of the crate as soon as she gets home. I put pads on one side and her blanket on the other. She will go the bathroom on the tray and blanket and then walk through it so she has her poop all over her feet. She won't go on the pad because her anxiety is so bad. She is pad trained and never has accidents except when she's in the crate. She used to sleep in her crate at night and did fine cause I was there but now she sleeps in bed with me. I tried putting her in a room before so she would have room but the reason I had to get this crate is because she chewed up my door.
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The people that make the little rascal pad holders ( I have the big squirt one) makes an awesome spray that works amazing on getting them to go on the pads, and I had tried many different sprays before that one, but it was the only one that worked, maybe you can try something like that?
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I could try that. She's already pad trained. She just gets bad anxiety when I'm gone I think.
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I think the x-pen idea is great! But if that's not really what you're looking for... How about putting an "addition" to the crate you have? Buy a small crate, put the pee pad in there and then just put the crates together with the opening facing each other. Does that make sense? It's just like having a "bathroom" right next to your bedroom.
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Blot a small amount of her urine with a paper towel, and then pick up a piece of fecal material in it as well. Just roll it up where you can handle it without getting yourself soiled, then...

Get everything de-scented/washed...her, her blanket, the Cage...everything.

Set the Cage back up, with the Potty Pad at the rear, and lay the rolled up Paper Towel at the very back of the Cage. Given how large you say the Cage is, I'd allow 2/3rds of it for the Pad.

This way, she shouldn't make a mistake because of the distributed scent.
Maybe this will work ?
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Boy do I remember those days. I would come home and have to clean poop from everywhere. I also had to give her a bath every day. With patience and persistence, it does get better. I had to train Brandi to use the potty pads and once she was doing that consistently I gave her the run of the house but until then I switch from keeping her in a crate to keeping her in a room. That way I only had to clean up a small mess and I didn't have to give her a bath every day. She was less likely to step in her poop but the room I put her in did not have a carpet so clean up was relatively easy. And of course I didn't have to give her a bath everyday.

Brandi was a rescue from a byb so she was used to pottying in her crate because that is where she spent most of her time. So placing her in a crate definitely wasn't an option. Too bad it took me the first month of having her to figure that out.

The next thing I did was place her potty pad where she liked to potty. I also would place her on the potty pad and say "potty". After what seem like forever she eventually caught on and now her potty pad is pretty much the only place she will potty in the house. She still goes outside when we go on walks but having her use the potty pads is so convenient for nights and bad weather.
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Thank you for the ideas! . I will have to try some of these. I already tried putting her in a room instead of the crate. I put her in the bathroom as thats the only non carpet area besides the kitchen but my other dogs are in there and she hasnt really met them yet. They are about 30 and 110 pounds so they would hurt her.. She ended up going potty in the bathroom and walked through it like she does in her crate so she still needed a bath and it was a bigger mess to clean than the crate. And to make it worse she also chewed my bathroom door . Sometimes I even put a potty pad she used earlier that has 1 pee on it and put it in there hoping the scent being on there will teach her to go on the pad in her crate and it doesnt work . I guess I will just have to keep trying! BTW she is 1 years old TODAY . I have been dealing with the daily baths for a while now .
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When my boys were young, I used a crate inside a crate. I had the large crate for my lab when she was young probably the same size you are using and then the smallest crate they sold inside that. It gave my puppies the little den they craved. I had the crate and food/water dish on one side and the puppy pad on the other. At night, I closed my boys up in the small crate and brought it into my room. This helped my boys to no go in their crate and on their pads
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We have a wet room in our master bath. The wet room has a shower and a bath tub. Jilly stayed in there when she was little. She could look out the glass door and see Piper our other yorkie. I put a pee pad in there for her as well as food and water. I needed to keep her separated from Piper until Piper decided that she liked Jilly. It was easy to clean up because it was our shower area. Now Piper and Jilly both stay in our master bedroom during the day. Piper uses the pads. Jilly holds it until I get home or my hubby arrives. I did get her during the summer so I trained while I was out of school. Good luck. I had to bathe Jilly too. It all works out as they get use to your schedule. They are awesome dogs!
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