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Old 09-22-2013, 06:16 AM   #1
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her mam is a yorkie x pom and her dad a bichon frise the breeder seems legit as she sent us extra pics and numbers of her other customers she is priced at 200 euros what do you think of that should we haggle
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:42 AM   #2
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Humm I don't have any advice perhaps others will. However, do be careful.
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I do not know how much you have already gotten involved with getting the baby, and no idea about the price of a mixed breed puppy...but...it sure is a cute puppy! Maybe someone else can give you an idea what to expect, other than making sure it's a legitimate 'offer'...still, this is at least a tri-mix...sounds like more than one 'oopsie' has occurred...might be interesting the reasons why...or maybe a wee bit of a 'profit venture' than a 'breeder' endeavor. So as was already said, might want to be careful. That much mixing sounds more like it 'should be' a 'give-away' puppy...which might be an excellent playmate for Buddy. If you decide to haggle, maybe you might offer to give, at no cost to you, the baby a good loving home if they will get their other dogs spayed and neutered.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:52 PM   #4
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200euros for a MIX?
Iīm in Europe too (Spain) and no one PAYS for mixed breed dogs, they are always given away (then the most of the time, abandoned later on unfortunately).
There are THOUSANDS of mixes being dumped and abandoned and given away because once they get older, people tend to lose interest and they end up in shelters.If people CHARGE for mix breed dogs, then whoīs to say that it wont become a "thing" and people will just throwing anything together to "see what happens" and then sell the unpredictable result and start again with something else?
No one with mix breed pups should be making a profit - this is the rule of thumb here anyway.

You can get purebred dogs for 200€ here, I would never PAY for a mix - EVER.
She is cute though..I just donīt think itīs ok for someone who wasnt responsable enough at the time of breeding to be making a profit by selling the "oops".It just encourages them if you ask me and there are enough mixes as it is
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She's a cutie. I can see the pom in her. I'm not sure how mixed breeds are priced where you live so I can't comment.
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I personally would never buy a mixed breed pup from a "breeder". There are too many of them dying here in shelters for me to ever justify encouraging someone to breed & sell them for a profit.
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I would have to agree. I would not get a mix from a breeder. I would go to a shelter. The shelter is full of unwanted puppies. You could find a cutie and save a pup
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I paid $150 American for my mix, so a bit on the high side. I usually get rescues but 99% of the puppies in my area are chihuahua mixes and I did not a chihuahua. As long as you understand with mutts you never know what your getting. It could have any one of the personalities and looks. One of my rescues was an adorable Aussie mix puppy (3 months old). I thought he would be about 45 lbs or so. Turns out we think he is mixed with German pointer so now weighs about 80 lbs. obviously yours are all toy breed mix, but you get the idea you never know. With my new puppies, they are yorkie maltese. One has yorkie personality and build with a black maltese coat. The other is maltese build and personality with a yorkie coat. So you never know. I personally have always had mixed breeds and love them.
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Also if you do get a mixed breed please have the neutered or spayed.
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I would not get a mix from a breeder.
This!
The fact that there are people out there purposely breeding mixes and making money is appalling!
As I said, here, people do not charge for mixes.
I have 4 big outside dogs (I live on a farm and we need guard dogs) and they are ALL mixes.I didnt have to pay for any of them.I got two from a shelter and 2 weīre being given away.They are fantastic dogs! AMAZING pets! But I would never pay for a mix so that the person who bred them would be encouraged to do it again.

I donīt care if the mix is adorable, I donīt care weather itīs one of those "a la carte" mixes where the "breeder" puts a yorkie and a maltese together and gives it a cute little sub breed name - a mix is a mix.They canīt be registered, the outcome is unpredictable and as a rule, no one breeding mutts has any kind of testing done..then, not to mention that 90% of them end up in shelters.

Could you go to a shelter and find one there? Iīm sure youīll find one that you like and they are always such greatful dogs
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Proud owner of a yorkie poo here. I tried the shelter route, and around here all you are going to get at most shelters are pit bulls and pit mixes. They are not full of small mixed dogs, or really many small dogs at all. There were a few we tried for, but I think they usually went to someone who "knew someone." we didn't want to wait a year to get a puppy, so we bought her. Also, not everybody is equipped to deal with the problems that may come with an adult shelter dog, of any size.

I hope the OP does check out shelters if they havent already, but if they have then don't give them a hard time for paying for something they want. I will agree though that a mix of more than 2 breeds should be a pretty low price because you really don't know what they will grow into. I Don't know how much $ pounds is in dollars

If a dog looks as adorable as the one posted here why wouldn't a person want to sell it? It's not like there were no expenses to its birth etc. Why would an adorable small mixed dog end up at a shelter anymore than another unwanted dog? Someone either wants their pup or they don't. I doubly being mixed makes it end up at a shelter. The exception is the random breedings of the pit bulls because people find out they can't handle them and they must end up with irresponsible owners because there are so many.

Here is a link to our shelter. Loads of cats, over 60 dogs that are pit or pit mixes and under 10 that are not pit or pit mix, but mostly all large. We do donate $ and supplies to the shelter. Also used blankets pillows etc. Camden County Animal Shelter - Blackwood, NJ :: For Adoption


I get the idea that people want to keep the breed pure etc, but so many people on here spay there purebreds anyway, and many of the non-mixes aren't up to standards, so what's the difference? Op, go ahead and pay for what you want. Love it and take care of it. Dont OVER-pay. Look around and see what the going rates are for purebred etc so you can decide if the price is fair. Maggie, my mix, is the sweetest dog in my neighborhood. She loves everyone and is very healthy. She is our spoiled baby and she loves us more than my skin kids seem to!
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If a dog looks as adorable as the one posted here why wouldn't a person want to sell it?
Just because something is adorable, it doesnt mean the owner can take advantage and charge you the same amount of money as a pure bred pup.What will it look like? What traits will it have? What health problems could it have? (yorkie or maltese?) Did the same efford go into this breeding as it would have if they were purebred? (the testing of the parents, vet care etc etc) Rarely if at all!
I got my 2 yorkies (purebred, wonderful lines, health garantees, paperwork etc) for 400€ the pair (thatīs about $450), so I canīt see how 200€ (about $250) is ok for a mix.
ALL puppies are adorable, I havent seen one that isnt But that doesnt mean you can slap a price on it just because itīs going to make people go "awwwww!".A mix is a mix, it doesnt matter how many breeds go into it or what they are, itīs still a mutt once they cross, and I personally donīt think anyone should be charged for one or that they should be breed on purpose.There are just too many for me to think itīs fabulous.
Also, just because a breeder says "this is a yorkie-poo" or "this is a Morkie", it doesnt make them a special new desirable sub-breed that they can make a profit from...at least not the way I see it.
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It's not like there were no expenses to its birth etc.
Not always true.Do you know how many people put two different breeds together and then donīt even visit a vet? Especially here in Europe.
99% of mix breeds here come from bitches who arent up to date on their shots, havent seen a vet in a LONG time and who never get treated any different than if they werent pregnant.ALOT of these so called "breeders" put nothing into it...not a penny or a thought.Itīs like winning the lottery! Nothing goes in and money comes out.
Mixed puppies often go home without any shots or deworming too.


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I get the idea that people want to keep the breed pure etc, but so many people on here spay there purebreds anyway, and many of the non-mixes aren't up to standards, so what's the difference?
This isnt about keeping yorkie lines "pure" This is about not helping the people who purposely breed mutts to make a profit and to carry on filling our shelters.YOu can certainly find mix breeds pups in the shelters here in Europe (the OP is from Europe - he said the dog costs euros).I volunteered in one a while ago and you can not imagine how many pups are dumped in boxes or bags because they were too "ugly" or too "old" to be sold for even a pitance.
Iīve had people turn up with "yorkie poos" and yorkie-chis" etc etc etc (the list is endless) because they couldent find homes for them and ended up with a houseful of pups they couldent afford to feed etc.
Then our shelters have to put them down because no wants wants an adult dog and to feed all these hundreds and thousands of dogs costs money.
I would certainly pay a small fee to help get the bitch spayed (alot ask for what ever it is you can give) and I would also pay the fee that a shelter asks for in order to adopt a mix.But actually PAY for a mutt just because the owner thinks itīs cute enough to make a profit from? No.

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If you noticed both of us that bought our mutts, said the OP should try shelters first as we did but could not find any at our local shelters except crosses of breeds we did not want (large breeds/ pits/ chihuahua). Unless you want a purebred which should come from a reputable breeder, always try shelter first.
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Maybe it's different in Europe. I just looked up three shelters in my area and ONE had a yorkie type mix. No information about his age or health. Not many on the small side in general. Maybe here in the US these mixes are more desirable than Europe.

Just thought of this, While I'm here, I want to thank those people who are so kind and generous (ladyjane comes to mind) to go out of there way to foster and help the sick and old and/unwanted. I wish I was that good of a person.

I also did say that I would not pay the same for a mix as for a purebred. I have no idea what the dollar to euro equivalent is, nor what a purebred costs in europe. I do know a pure yorkie can be $1000 American, so the poster who got a pair for $450 American got a steal! If that is the going rate then the OP should be paying about half for the mix, or less since it is three breeds.

Very interesting article on a recent study concerning genetics and mixed vs pure. While mixed are not immune from genetic problems, the list near the bottom list specific conditions that seem breed (pure) related. At the very bottom, the yorkie is first for portosystemic shunt. Interesting reading. I would assume a mix of two breeds on the list for the same problem would be still likely to get that problem. Mixed Breed Dogs Are Not Protected From Breed Disease Heritage | MyDogDNA
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The fact that there are people out there purposely breeding mixes and making money is appalling!
As I said, here, people do not charge for mixes.
I have 4 big outside dogs (I live on a farm and we need guard dogs) and they are ALL mixes.I didnt have to pay for any of them.I got two from a shelter and 2 weīre being given away.They are fantastic dogs! AMAZING pets! But I would never pay for a mix so that the person who bred them would be encouraged to do it again.

I donīt care if the mix is adorable, I donīt care weather itīs one of those "a la carte" mixes where the "breeder" puts a yorkie and a maltese together and gives it a cute little sub breed name - a mix is a mix.They canīt be registered, the outcome is unpredictable and as a rule, no one breeding mutts has any kind of testing done..then, not to mention that 90% of them end up in shelters.

Could you go to a shelter and find one there? Iīm sure youīll find one that you like and they are always such greatful dogs
It is crazy that they call them designer dogs and charge a lt of money for them. The shelters are full of designer dogs !
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