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07-06-2013, 05:36 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker | Clicker training is it best? Sooo i did the petco class and it was ok it was kinda a waste but i think i was soley think it would train the dog but it just gives u ways and commands to use not to mention it only once a week so now i back to traning bent by myself i wanted to try clicker traning or is that not as effective as keys words like YES...the trainer say not to use a clicker because its just too much to have in your hands and u dont want them to get attached to the clicker what do u guys think? |
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07-06-2013, 05:40 PM | #2 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| We tried the clicker but I just wasn't in to it. I give Callie a treat when she does good and tell her she is a good girl.
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07-06-2013, 05:57 PM | #3 |
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| Do you feel the treats helped made the training easier or more effective? My 14.5 week old pup was doing great until today, when she went 3 times inside within 90 seconds after being brought in from an unsuccessful potty trip.
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07-06-2013, 06:46 PM | #4 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Positive training like with treat its the best way to train in my opinion. When they go in the right place they get a treat personally I don't think anything else works as well. She is still very young though some pups are not even trained by a year old. When I knew Callie had to go potty I absolutely would not come back inside until she did sometimes I would be outside for 45 minutes. When the dog knows they get praise and a treat for going in the right place they will want to do it in the right place.
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07-06-2013, 06:56 PM | #5 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | I gave the clicker training a try and once even used a squeaker in stead of the clicker. The pups didn't seem to respond to either of them as well as they did simple firm voice commands. You don't always have to use treats to reward for good behavior. I believe that it helps at the start of the training session to get their attention and than again at the end to reward them for a job well done. I don't think that treats should be used each and every time your pup does what is asked of them. Especially the tiny ones because those treats can consume their appetite and than you wonder why aren't they eating.
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07-06-2013, 07:14 PM | #6 |
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| Clicker training is great when used correctly. I think people have this misunderstanding that you're always supposed to have a clicker on you, or the dog won't listen. A clicker is simply a way of teaching tricks, commands or complex behaviors, and once the dog knows and understands, is no longer necessary. I mostly taught Jackson without a clicker very successfully. I didn't use a clicker until I wanted to train more complex behaviors and I find it helps him know EXACTLY what I want because the clicker is more precise than human voice and will always sound the same, and if your timing is right, they will know what they did at the exact split second is what you want of them. Check out Zakgeorge21 on youtube. I love his method of training and it's how I've always trained Jackson. He calls it relationship-based training.
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07-06-2013, 07:25 PM | #7 | |
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07-06-2013, 07:29 PM | #8 |
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| Tibbe was distracted by the clicking sound so it didn't work with him. I used "yes" and a smile to mark correct behavior, then praise/treat w/in 3 seconds.
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07-06-2013, 07:29 PM | #9 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2013 Location: Mount Airy, Md. USA
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| I've had my pup for three days and he's learned sit, down and speak with the clicker! Should have I taught him to speak????? He's a very smart pup and were lucky to have three labs to potty train him. He likes going out with the big dogs! |
07-06-2013, 09:56 PM | #10 | |
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07-06-2013, 10:20 PM | #11 |
YT 1000 Club Member | I don't like the Clicker because... 1) I don't like someone else to just be able to pick up a device and control my animals. I think it's basically used for simple commands, but, I still don't like that. 2) What if you loose it ? Do those Classes teach Verbal backup commands, and to what extent. And if you're going to have Verbal commands, why use the Clicker at all. 3) Even with someone who is Verbally Challenged, that person could still rely on Visual (hand) Signals to communicate with his animal. 4) I can see it being of value for an Invalid person to summon his animal. But wouldn't a Bell be as useful, more customary, and have much greater range than a Clicker?
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07-06-2013, 10:25 PM | #12 |
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| I love the clicker for teaching new tricks. Joel learns new stuff really fast when I have the clicker, that's all I use it for. As for training a puppy, I wouldn't use it yet. |
07-06-2013, 10:40 PM | #13 |
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| Every time I clicked it, Tibbe would look at it all excited and want to play with it. He thought that clicker hung the moon as a toy and I think he thought clicking sound was it challenging him to play! He'd try to get it. He was already used to my training methods and my "yes" to mark but if I were going to teach him more difficult tasks or tricks, I might very well try a different kind of clicker to see if that were somehow better than my "yes".
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07-06-2013, 10:42 PM | #14 | |
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07-06-2013, 10:48 PM | #15 |
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| I clicker trained my Pom Teddy, at petsmart and will probably do the same with Draco. Though the way some of you guys describe makes me wonder why you guys think the clicker is being used... When I took Teddy it was to pinpoint the thing I wanted him to do. The class still used commands w/ hand signals and gave praise and treats when did the action correctly. It's not like some kind of remote or anything, just something that helps when first learning a trick. And knowing what you want faster. I think it's great for puppies and dogs with short attention spans and lots of energy. When it comes to tricks/commands like "Watch me" or "Leave it" it was great to have the clicker as it pinpointed at the half second of eye contact is what I was rewarding him for when teaching him "watch me". Also Teddy was never attached to the clicker, after I felt like he knew what I want, we'd practice it without the clicker, then just hand signals. I think it's definitely depends on the dog, I was giving commands with Draco w/o a clicker and he did well. But seemed to do even better when I bought the clicker. I want to put him in group classes only to help with concentration, distractions, obeying with other dogs and people around since I live alone.
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