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03-28-2013, 08:54 AM | #1 |
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| Tips to make Joel independent What are some things I could try to make Joel a little less dependant on me (not that I want him to be lol) but I think it's better for him. We've been together all the time and actually only slept apart once and it was sad haha! He's fine when he has to be in his crate and I leave but he gets really sad when he's left with someone and I leave (he rather be in his crate Or if I go out to shovel he acts sad and whines So just wondering how I can get him independent when we are together all the time I also don't want him to get nippy or protective when he's older. |
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03-28-2013, 09:10 AM | #2 |
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| I will be watching for answers, because I don't have a clue. I mean, when you are ALWAYS there...it's hard "not to be there" ya know? lol Shelby was like because I was with him 24/7 for the first year and half of his life. When I went back to work, I was so worried - and he did cry sometimes (according to my mom), but he gradually got better and realized that Lord willing, I come back
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03-28-2013, 09:11 AM | #3 |
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| Joel strikes me as a confident dog, and I think that is half the battle. He will want to be with you whenever possible, and that is probably why he whines when you go out to shovel, but accepts being separated when necessary. I wouldn't worry about him choosing to be in his crate when he is left with another person. Is the other person entertaining? Max would love anyone willing to play fetch, but if the person is boring, he would just go to his bed.
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03-28-2013, 09:18 AM | #4 |
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| Well one of my dogs can't stand to be left with someone else even if it's at my house. If I'm not home he won't calm down. He paces and barks at every little noise he hears. And they say it gets worse at night. (I've been told this by several people who have watched him for me) Any suggestions? |
03-28-2013, 09:58 AM | #5 |
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| Start leaving him for short periods of time frequently he will get used to the time you are not with him. Either that or you can get another yorkie to keep him company.
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03-28-2013, 10:00 AM | #6 |
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| hehe thats such a good idea!! joel needs a partner in crime.
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03-28-2013, 11:01 AM | #7 |
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| Well first I don't think I'll ever get a second one lol! He will have to be bored haha. But even when I leave him with aunty who is his second favorite person in the world and he plays with all the time, she said he will just sit at the window waiting for me. And the most times he has gotten out the door was to go look for me when im outside. I don't know how he can't be happy when he's home with aunty, he worships her |
03-28-2013, 11:45 AM | #8 |
Banning Thread Dictator Donating Member | What's Joel's reaction when you return after being away? And, more importantly, what's your reaction? Does he race to the front door as you bend down and give him hugs and kisses? I'm only guessing, and this may have nothing to do with the independence you're looking for, but often times the owner's return is so anticipated that it's all the dog can think about when you're gone. It's separation anxiety. You might even Google that term and see if anything you read rings a bell. I used to race in the house and give my dogs hugs and kisses because I missed them as much as they missed me. But I read something here, I think, that said you should return and pretty much ignore them for a minute or two. You can say hi, but don't be overenthusiastic. You want to teach them that your leaving is no big deal. It's just part of life. And your return should reinforce that. Again, I'm only guessing.
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03-28-2013, 11:49 AM | #9 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | Leaving him for short periods of time is a great idea. Socializing them with other animal and people would also be helpful. Plus I think that if you spoil your dog and carry them around too much they tend to be more clingy and over protective. Which like you said can cause agreation issues later on. Im with my pups 24/7 also but I have never spoiled them to the extent that their needs come before the humans in the house. Dogs need to learn their place in line behind the humans. Not being treated as equals, no matter how hard it is for some to do. We love them and want to give them the best. But sometimes our best is what can cause the behavior issues. Im so glad that my pups are well balanced and dont have too many issues. Their not perfect but they are pretty close ! LOL Which reminds me of this, this women is nuts My Cat from Hell: Casting Tapes: Melissa and Mariah : Video : Animal Planet
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03-28-2013, 11:59 AM | #10 |
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| Oh I wish I knew, but my 2 boys are SO bad and getting worse. The other night I went in the hot tub in the back yard and didn't take them outside, it was dark and they are hard to see, and I don't feel comfortable with them out and me not being right there on top of them.... well they were howling in the house for 10 mins straight, like crazy mad-men!!! If I eat in the living room and gate them into the kitchen they are mental. If I go into the bathroom and shut the door on them, they are mental, whining, scratching at the door. The other day when it was still light out, we went in the hot tub and Dexter (first time ever) actually came into the hot tub on his own just to be held by me. (luckily he really could have used a bath! LOL) But its horrible. The sad eyes, the howling, crying, whining, scratching.... my heart breaks, but I really wish I could make them more independent and be ok with not being on top of me every second.
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03-28-2013, 12:00 PM | #11 | |
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I have as a matter of course boarded my dogs - a few times of year - with a very trustworthy trainer. They do without home, and have hours of time off lead, and also 1-2 hrs daily obedience training. They know I always return. The most difficult part is when we travel together and stay over-night in motels. They absolutely do not like being left in the room - nevertheless I do for a short bit if only to get ice from the dispenser.
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03-28-2013, 01:00 PM | #12 |
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| Thanks for the advice I don't act excited when I come home (although other people do) i've actually been working on "calm down" with him. When I get home and get him from the crate he is pretty calm but when I get home and he stayed with someone else he freaks out and screams when he knows I'm here. My sister has been teaching him that when I get home she won't open the door until he is quite which he's catching on to. I don't think he is spoiled, he actually doesn't like to be held or carried around and I don't really baby him. I just feel that I'm doing something wrong because he does show a little bit of protection signs with things like the daycare kids coming by me or even Rosco, it's starting to annoy me. I thought I did good on letting him know I'm the boss but apparently not I read that the separation anxiety and protective stuff means they think they're the boss. There's nothing he really gets to do that tells him he's the boss so I don't know where he's getting it. He does fine with sitting before he gets food and staying off people and just being treated like a dog so I'm not sure what to do. |
03-28-2013, 01:06 PM | #13 |
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| My boy thinks he owns me or I am his toy. I have no idea what I did "wrong" either, Rachel. I don't spoil him to the point of making him think that..that I know of. He knows he has to obey commands to get food and such. However, I know he thinks I'm his toy or "his" because we'll be sitting and he'll put his paw up on my arm. I make him stop all the time, but he still does it. After 3 and half years, I decided he must be right - I'm his. He doesn't have separation anxiety, though. So the two are not related - or at least, they are mutually exclusive.
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03-28-2013, 01:26 PM | #14 | |
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I'd just keep working on getting him to trust other people. If there's someone around the house who can feed him, that might teach him that he's not totally dependent on you. Same for walks. Or a car ride. Just make sure the experience is fun for him. Good luck! Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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03-28-2013, 01:43 PM | #15 | |
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I think that will be my next step, getting other people to do stuff with him I still haven't mastered the car rides because now he relates it all to getting sick instead of getting excited to going somewhere fun. | |
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