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Old 12-30-2012, 04:34 PM   #16
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Newer training methods show positive preliminary results-the method is to not give pits chews-ever-they will often unpurposefully begin to chew in play on an undesirable object...as in your yorkie. Prey drive recall obediance is critical.
What do you do for a pit that is teething if you don't give him something to chew on? I've never had a pit so I'm curious is all.
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Its going to be outside when i cant supervise her . Thats what i mean by outside dog. Just cause its an outside dog doesnt mean im going to forget about her im going to treat her the same way i do my yorkies. And for the pit i feed her differently im going to start giving her blue ribbon to get her musculer and fit. For teething i had bought her a teething bone she didnt like it so i had bought my bigger yorkie a 6 in bone and the pit chews on that or smaller bones that we have. The only times i hit my pit is wen shes trying to bite my yorkie. For discipline i pick her up by her back neck like the mothers do when their in trouble and i put her in time out in the restroom.
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Sounds like the Yorkie is in for a reallybad time one day and a pretty miserable life in the meantime getting bitten by a pitbull. Muzzle your pitbull any time it is around the smaller, more fragile dog.
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I see no problem having both as long as you make sure you contact a trainer that works with pits and knows the breed... They can be great dogs if tried properly!! One of Guinness's playmates is my goddaughter's pit and when he mates I get pick of the litter BUT he or she would be trained by the same person their father.
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Please stop hitting your Pit along with any other disciplinary method that you won't be able to use when it is a 60 pound muscle machine. You are putting yourself in danger by being aggressive toward the dog. It can turn on you one day if not properly trained and read.

The pit is probably paying, but it is hard to say. Either way that style of play is not ok fora yorkie. For that reason they need to be separated until you can train the pit.
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first of all why have a dog for outside every dog deserves to be treated well no dog deserves to be away from those she loves big dogs and little dogs can accidently hurt or kil each other
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It's probably just the Pit being playful but from the sounds of it, your Yorkie is obviously uncomfortable.

First off, Pits should be not be kept outside. They are not 'outside' dogs and want to be a part of the family. Not to mention their short coats do nothing to protect against weather.

How much exercise are they getting? You should begin walking them together, letting the Pit get out his energy in a field, or a park, etc. Sounds like a lot of excitability going on. Your Yorkie could easily be injured.
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I would definitely suggest keeping the two separated unless you can supervise them 100%. Your yorkie is going to end up dead if you don't keep an eye on them.

Personally, I would never own such a large dog and a small dog at the same time.

Also, why get a dog if you are going to keep it outside? I don't understand why people have 'outside' dogs. Dogs want to be part of the family and keeping them outside is cruel. Pits do not have thick enough coats to live outside.
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Never hit a dog-let alone a pit.

Pits should not be trained the same as other dogs they require specialty training-period.

Two pups of inmatched breeds are not a good idea.

Furthmore both breeds have prey drive chase instinct as they are both terriers-the pit will always win.

Either get immediate specialty trainer to come to your home and not only train but set up a coexisting environment or you need to consider rehoming.

Newer training methods show positive preliminary results-the method is to not give pits chews-ever-they will often unpurposefully begin to chew in play on an undesirable object...as in your yorkie. Prey drive recall obedience is critical.

Always separated while unattended.

THIS.

I'll add that most dog bites come from what is being termed a "resident dog", in other words a dog kept outside or in the basement with little to no contact with the family. Poor socialization = badly behaved dog = potential for biting increased.

If you're just going to throw the pit out in the yard in a few months, do her a favor and find her a home now, where she can be a part of a family, because ALL dogs deserve that. To do otherwise, when she has grown up in the house is just cruel, and wrong on too many levels.
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Also, many people have big dogs and little dogs together. I think that the Dog Whisperer episode where Diablo the chihuahua had a house FULL of rescued pits completely cowed shows that it's literally the size of the fight in the dog, and he ruled those pits.. They were terrified of him.

BUT as these dogs are close in age range, it's not like bringing in a large breed puppy with an adult toy who the puppy learns to give way to. There could well be future problems IF you don't address them now.
Coming here is a good thing, a pit board might be better to deal with pit specific issues. This board has sound advise to give and is pretty much on point, but it IS a yorkie board... As a pit lover myself, I would not come here for pit problems. Not that the advise wouldn't be on target, but just that the best advise would probably come from a group of pit people, even if some of the yorkie people here are also pit people (*waves*)

I don't know how big your dog is going to get.. I'm sorry I just had to laugh at the 60lb pit thing, because in all my years, I have only ever had 3 dogs over 50 lbs and most of my dogs were in the 30-40 lb range, which is the true and correct weight range for the real pit bull, not those cross bred fake papered so called pit bulls and over done, over weight staff types.

Even in the show ring, I rarely see pits above 60 lbs, since it's pretty easy to guestimate a dogs couch weight from his show weight. When we do see them at the shows, it's usually a UKC staff bred dog that is coming to get a bit of ring experience or a dog from a certain bloodline that I am sure has a cross in it, but can't prove..

No, I don't like over sized, over done pit bulls and you touched a nerve with something else. You CANNOT feed a pit fit. You have to WORK a pit fit, and that means getting out there and WALKING your dog. If you think a pit bull is supposed to be a bulky over done dog, you have the wrong breed. That is NOT what they're supposed to look like.
Look up ADBA Champion APBT and see what a muscular and fit pit looks like. Those dogs don't get that way from feeding, they get that way from exercise, from hard work.
This is why you should also join a pit forum. They're nicer and more accepting than I am, I promise, lol. (*mutters stuff about the old days and walking up hill both ways in the snow*)
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What do you do for a pit that is teething if you don't give him something to chew on? I've never had a pit so I'm curious is all.
Puppy teething was excluded to my knowledge however it was talked about to use debtal ropes, heavy (like denium special made) stuffed animals.

However the general giving of chews into adulthood was completely discouraged-ball and kongs were allowed, even Frisbees but all chewing, mouthing completely discouraged.

The study is not complete and is a behavioral outcpme study planned by breeders, trainers, behavioist (in a rescue effort) for a 5 year minimum hopefully 10 if funding allows.

I just heard of the positive progress report but its too soon to be conclusive.
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Also, many people have big dogs and little dogs together. I think that the Dog Whisperer episode where Diablo the chihuahua had a house FULL of rescued pits completely cowed shows that it's literally the size of the fight in the dog, and he ruled those pits.. They were terrified of him.

BUT as these dogs are close in age range, it's not like bringing in a large breed puppy with an adult toy who the puppy learns to give way to. There could well be future problems IF you don't address them now.
Coming here is a good thing, a pit board might be better to deal with pit specific issues. This board has sound advise to give and is pretty much on point, but it IS a yorkie board... As a pit lover myself, I would not come here for pit problems. Not that the advise wouldn't be on target, but just that the best advise would probably come from a group of pit people, even if some of the yorkie people here are also pit people (*waves*)

I don't know how big your dog is going to get.. I'm sorry I just had to laugh at the 60lb pit thing, because in all my years, I have only ever had 3 dogs over 50 lbs and most of my dogs were in the 30-40 lb range, which is the true and correct weight range for the real pit bull, not those cross bred fake papered so called pit bulls and over done, over weight staff types.

Even in the show ring, I rarely see pits above 60 lbs, since it's pretty easy to guestimate a dogs couch weight from his show weight. When we do see them at the shows, it's usually a UKC staff bred dog that is coming to get a bit of ring experience or a dog from a certain bloodline that I am sure has a cross in it, but can't prove..

No, I don't like over sized, over done pit bulls and you touched a nerve with something else. You CANNOT feed a pit fit. You have to WORK a pit fit, and that means getting out there and WALKING your dog. If you think a pit bull is supposed to be a bulky over done dog, you have the wrong breed. That is NOT what they're supposed to look like.
Look up ADBA Champion APBT and see what a muscular and fit pit looks like. Those dogs don't get that way from feeding, they get that way from exercise, from hard work.
This is why you should also join a pit forum. They're nicer and more accepting than I am, I promise, lol. (*mutters stuff about the old days and walking up hill both ways in the snow*)
Mine was 90lbs...pure bred, just grew & grew...our best friend is called a Staff, 110lbs-purebeed as well. It happens.

Exactly on target...you cannot feed a pit muscle enhancing foods toss it in a yard as a guard dog and expect a Muggle(sten) looking buffed dog...you'll get an unsocial, paracite ridden unhealthy, paranoid, over excitable, jelous dog agressive in the least dog...another pit waiting for a bad rep due to poor people choices.

Pits grow well with exercise, long distance slow paced jogging and specialty agility and muscle tone building exercises-pits can literally climb a wall!

I foresee a tragedy here if expert help isn't brought in right away.

I hope for everyone and maybe most of all that I'm proven wrong.
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Well the pit is going to be an outside dog in a couple of months. Its inside for the time being because we live in an apartment. And i dont like the idea of rehoming. They sleep good together. And my yorkie overpowers the pit. At the moment i keep telling my pit no to not bite her. She also bites my other yorkie but hes a 17 lb yorkie she aint going to do much to him. Im guessing its due to teething
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A Pitbull, as I understand it, has tremendous bite pressure. I think this is part of the reason they get such a bad rap, especially since they are NOT the most prolific biters...not like Cocker Spaniels and Chows. But, due to that serious bite-and-hold nature, they can injure without meaning to do so...or realizing they are. The Yorkie may be 17 pounds now, but the Pit will be larger, and if the behavior is not altered, could lead to accidental injury...playing or not. Please take the needs and instinctual behaviors of both dogs into consideration...and especially their safety.
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Why have a dog if you are going to keep it outside? Give the dog to someone that will spend time training it to be a good family member. If the pup plays rough now I would not want it to be around my Yorkie as it gets older. They are very strong dogs and can hurt a small dog by accident very easily.
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Mine was 90lbs...pure bred, just grew & grew...our best friend is called a Staff, 110lbs-purebeed as well. It happens.

Exactly on target...you cannot feed a pit muscle enhancing foods toss it in a yard as a guard dog and expect a Muggle(sten) looking buffed dog...you'll get an unsocial, paracite ridden unhealthy, paranoid, over excitable, jelous dog agressive in the least dog...another pit waiting for a bad rep due to poor people choices.

Pits grow well with exercise, long distance slow paced jogging and specialty agility and muscle tone building exercises-pits can literally climb a wall!

I foresee a tragedy here if expert help isn't brought in right away.

I hope for everyone and maybe most of all that I'm proven wrong.
Pits do not get to be 90lbs.... had to be mix of sorts. A true American Pit Bull Terrier would never get that large, unless they were fat.

They are pure muscle, and yes can climb a wall, but 90lbs? Never seen a pure bred APBT that size. They range between 30-60lbs.
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