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12-16-2005, 09:04 PM | #1 |
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| 18 month old female nasty to 6 month old male. Hi Everyone! My little Maddy (18 months old). She is a little darling to everyone, but sometimes she gets really mean with her brother who is 6 months old. This morning we were on the bed reading the paper and she was in my husbands lap. Barney got close to him and she bit his ear and made it bleed. Sometimes when I take a toy away from them she'll go after him. Is this normal for a female? Both babies have been neutered. Most of the time they play really well, but sometimes she just goes off. |
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12-17-2005, 02:54 AM | #2 |
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| i think its a case of the green eyed monster appearing, just like in skin brothers and sisters they fight sometimes |
12-17-2005, 08:12 AM | #3 |
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| What you are seeing is not jealous. As dogs do not think in that manner that is a human thought and not a dogs. What you are seeing is dog on dog aggression and a needs to be addressed with a trip to a Behaviorist, or to a trainer that is working in the aggression Field. Also you have a teenage dog (18 month old) that is well being a teenager but the more she gets to practice the bad habits the more ingrained it will become. I have a little light reading in th form of aggression book if your interested Pm Me. I have work now for a while with my girl and her aggression and am off in the New Year to see an leading trainer in aggression and use my girl as a training dog in the seminar. This is the Field I love to work with and talk about. joy |
12-17-2005, 04:18 PM | #4 | |
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alright alright theres no need to bit my head off talk about being agressive you dont do to bad, there are ways of saying things you no | |
12-17-2005, 04:38 PM | #5 | |
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12-17-2005, 04:47 PM | #6 | |
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I am sorry you read that as that but you should realize the tone of voice does not carry over a click of computer keys. There was no intent at all to ruffle anyone feathers. Joy | |
12-17-2005, 05:17 PM | #7 |
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| I had to read Yorkie Mum's post atleast 5 times to make sure I was not missing something. In no way was she being harsh, she gave some wonderful advise in a very helpful and respectful manner.
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12-17-2005, 05:33 PM | #8 | |
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I try very hard not to ever attack anyone although I will defend myself. I prefer to just stick to the facts as clearly as I can. Which can in turn come off as very cold. The fight I have had keeping my girl alive is all I can handle and looking for a fight is not what I am about here or any where. If I can help one dog not see the side of life mine does and was, that be a good thing. Joy | |
12-17-2005, 08:12 PM | #9 |
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| I nipped it in the bud... I brought my new little Bichon puppy home to a 6-year-old dog that I had. She was so sweet and gentle that I didn't expect any problem at all. We hadn't even come into the house when, behind my back, she somehow got hold of the little pup and threw him clear out in the front yard. It surprised and frightened me to death. The puppy was crying at the top of his lungs, and I was afraid that she had really hurt him, but he was okay. She was jealous-jealous-jealous. I immediately spanked her very very hard - with a good amount of shaking and a lot of very stern talk. She had never been spanked before in her life - nor was she ever spanked again after that. I don't think I had ever even been mad at her before. But, what she did just couldn't ever happen again. From that moment on - she never hurt the pup, but she would lie on the davenport or floor and growl at him. She just didn't like him and was very jealous. I continued speaking to her in a very stern voice whenever she growled. And before a few weeks had gone by, they became fast friends. And, for years (as long as I had her) you couldn't separate them. They were very good friends. They played together, ate together, and slept together always. That was the only spanking Dutchess ever got in her life and the only one she ever needed. But, I had to do it. She could easily have killed the little puppy. And, she was never mean to him again. I think this worked well with Dutchess because she was so sweet and gentle and had never been spanked or spoken to in that manner before. It made a big impresson on her. I will have to admit that much of my reaction was spontaneous. Everything happened so fast, and I was so afraid for the little puppy's life. I just spanked and scolded her before I even knew what I was doing. But - it was necessary. Carol Jean |
12-17-2005, 08:26 PM | #10 |
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| [QUOTE=SnowWa]I nipped it in the bud... I immediately spanked her [U]very very hard - with a good amount of shaking - it was necessary. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am sorry you felt that you had to result to physical abuse to teach your dog how to behave w/ other animals within your home. I honestly feel there is a better way to train an animal. I am disturbed to read something quite this harsh.
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12-17-2005, 08:32 PM | #11 |
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| Thank you all so much for your comments. It gives me alot to think about. Maddy (female) seems a lot like Dutchess. She is very protective of her brother, but sometimes gets nasty. Maybe they as animals don't get jealous, but boy it seems that they do. I just think sometimes we just think they are our real human babies. Again thank you all. |
12-17-2005, 09:00 PM | #12 | |
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12-17-2005, 10:44 PM | #13 |
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| Shatzie - Can't let you critize me on this one. First of all, it was the only time I ever even talked harsh to Dutchess in her whole 10-year life. Secondly, I had just been scared to death and I thought the little puppy had been very badly hurt - and thirdly, it was a very spontaneous action of mine - Also don't picture me beating up my dog. She was (for me to do) spanked very very hard, and I did talk very sternly with her. I also remember putting her little face in my hands and telling her, No no no." I was in tears, scared to death. I did not physically abuse her. My description of what I did - has to be taken in context with the situation - and also taken in context with the kind of person I am. My spanking her very very hard and shaking her and telling her, "No no no" didn't amount to as much as you make it sound. Because it was "me." I have seen a hundred people spank their dog harder for running out into the street because they might get hit by a car. What I did lasted less than a minute - because I quickly picked up the little puppy to see if it was okay. I am being honest when I say that I have spanked only one dog in my life and it was because it almost killed a little puppy. I know the reason my discipline was so effective with her was because she had never had a spanking her life or been talked to sternly before. If I hadn't been stern with her, she may have hurt the puppy an hour later or the next day. I remember thinking to myself after we all got into the house - if this continues, I just can't keep this puppy. Dutchess has to come first, and if she can't accept the puppy and is going to be mean to it, I'll have to find another home for it. That would have been a sad state of affairs - but - she never hurt it again, and as I said, they became the very best of friends. I mean really good friends. All the neighbors commented for years how you never saw one of them without the other right beside it. Dutchess had to be put to sleep about four months ago. She was very sick and she was 10 years old. The little Bichon really missed her, of course, and he didn't want to eat or play for several months. So, I got another little puppy - the Yorkie. Interestingly, Louie stayed away from the puppy for a few days. By nature, he is very gentle and shy. He was a little jealous, but his way of dealing with it was just to try and be on my lap all the time so the puppy couldn't get there. And, this was wonderful after his two months of just lying around not interested in anything. Well, the puppy drove him crazy and won him over, and now they play constantly. Louie is not only back to himself, but is playing like a little puppy himself again. Thanks for your reply, but please don't read more into my actions then were there. It is actually my own fault for wording it the way I did. When I read what you had taken out of context, it did sound terrible. I would probably have responded to someone else the way you did to me. Bye - Carol Jean |
12-18-2005, 04:31 AM | #14 | |
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Joy, Good post! What would you recommend I do, when I come home, my 10 year old Yorkie growls, because my 7 year old Yorkie wants attention? I mean, they're both getting attention, not one more than another, and still Sydney growls. I've scolded her, I've sent her to her room. Someone else suggested ignoring it, and distract her. That doesn't work. Sheila | |
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