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11-07-2012, 01:50 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Memphis, TN USA
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| Bailey got sick from his shots Hello all. Been a while and I do hope all is well. Wanted to share info that might spare your Yorkie from the pain poor Bailey went through last Thursday. We've had him now just over a year. So it was time for his annual shots. Our regular vet was out so we got one of the owners which I thought might be a good thing. Uh . . . no! He proceeded to give Bailey all kinds of shots for rabies and other things (guess I should know these shots, but i don't). Doctor told us he might be puny for the night, which he was. The next morning he wasn't his perky self. He didn't move. At all . . . . !! He just laid there and whimpered. We tried feeding him, water, even a cookie. He wasn't interested in anything. He wouldn't climb the stairs to our offices so we picked him up and brought him. He wasn't better at all Friday so back to the vet he went. He was shivering so they gave him a shot of benadryl. Saturday morning, he was still lethargic and we were thinking the worst. Back to the vet. He went from 8.3lbs down to 7.9lbs in three days. They gave him an iv. He showed improvement. By the afternoon he was perky. Now he's back to himself, finally and thank goodness. What did the doctor say? He said and I quote: "Maybe I shouldn't have given such a small dog so many shots at once". Really? Guess we all have to learn sometime. I would have thought you learn that in vet school. Oh well. Ok so I'm being a little snarky, but we were pretty traumatized. In a span of 3 days we were at the vet three times. They didn't charge us for the last two visits. I thought that was nice (now that Bailey is ok once again). I don't know if this has ever happened to any of you, but I certainly would keep it in the back of your mind when it's time for annual shots. I know I won't forget. |
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11-07-2012, 02:05 PM | #2 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dickinson, TX
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| My dogs get their shots one at a time with a week or so span in between regardless if they are due at once. Prior to the annual booster I request a shot of benadryl wait 20 mins then I allow the vet to give the booster shot. Two weeks later back to vet with benadryl then 20 mins later the rabies shot. I always make my vet appts in the early morning in the event on top of these precautions they should fall ill. I had a kitten many years ago that went for shots and she was almost lifeless for 3 days. Never again would I allow my pet to be given all their shots at once. I'm sorry that happened to you. It is very scary and you would think all vets would know this. |
11-07-2012, 02:27 PM | #3 |
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| I am sorry this happened. My Vet spaces out shots one at a time.
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11-07-2012, 02:32 PM | #4 |
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| im so sorry i learned this the hard way as well. i go back as many times as i need its a one shot deal PERIOD. so glad he's doing better! not all vets know how to treat small breeds...
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11-07-2012, 04:18 PM | #5 | ||
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| Do not get annual shots! Completely unnecessary and any vet recommending them is either ignorant to the newest protocols or out for money .... I'm sorry you had to experience that. Check out some of these threads: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-not-give.html Yearly vaccinations are no longer recommended. The AAHA recommends every 3 years but even that its too often. The only one required by law is rabies. If a dog gets DHPP, for example, at 1 year old (or even their puppy vaccines) they are typically immune for life. Sometimes you may have to re-booster once in the dogs life but certainly not every year, or even every 3 years. I will most likely titer Jackson later this year to see how much adequate response he still has to the vaccines he received in the past... but there is no reason to believe that vaccinations do not last for the life of the dog. Duration of immunity studies are proving that to be true. But your dog is not ANY more protected getting vaccines every year than if they got them every 3 years for example. Because it's the SAME exact vaccine. There is no difference between "1 year" or "3 year" or whatever. So getting your dogs vaccinated every year is not protecting them in any way and all you are doing is adding unnecessary chemicals into their body year after year. The thing is, a lot of vets don't want to give up that money they get from yearly vaccines. Let's face it - most dog owners wouldn't want to fork up the dough to get titers and a majority of people ONLY take their dogs to the vet when they need vaccines. Of course a lot are going to continue recommending yearly. Now, an owner like me, I'll be at the vet at least once a year anyways for annual check-ups, bloodwork, etc so they'll still get their money from me. But an average owner... does not do this. So they are also concerned for pets wellbeing because, like I said, a lot of dogs wouldn't be getting check-ups every year either. Quote:
Here's some good reads: Science of Vaccine Damage Age and long-term protective immunity in dogs ... [J Comp Pathol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI Quote:
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11-07-2012, 06:05 PM | #6 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| With small dogs you should never get more then one shot at a time and you should never ever let your vet give your dog a shot that you don't know what it is and what it is for. Glad he is doing better.
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11-07-2012, 06:08 PM | #7 | |
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11-07-2012, 06:17 PM | #9 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Augusta, GA, USA
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| I always request Benadryl shot 15 mins prior. I am terrified of exactly what happen to your pup |
11-07-2012, 07:25 PM | #10 |
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| In order for those to be "effective", they do need to be given yearly. However I do not give those to my dog. Check out this info about bordatella: http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...cination-dogs/ I don't trust or like the lymes vaccine either and wouldn't bother with it. Very little of the country is effected by lymes. The lymes tests all give false positives, so none of the tests will actually tell you if the dog has the disease. The tests themselves cost more than the treatment to Lyme. A round of doxycycline can be given, very cheaply, if your dog is showing symptoms. Something like 5% of dogs who are exposed to Lyme ever get sick, it's just not worth it to me considering we have other tick-borne illnesses that can't be vaccinated against, so it's best just to use tick control meds as needed. I won't give any of the "optional" vaccines, since they don't cover all strains or give full protection anyway.
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11-07-2012, 07:34 PM | #11 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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I think even if its protecting against some strains that's better then protecting against none. Kennel cough is miserable in my opinion coughing for sometimes a month (I have heard it can last that long) would just suck. Many many people get the human flu shot and that only covers very very few strains.
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11-08-2012, 05:35 AM | #12 | ||
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Kennel cough, yes, can be annoying, but it's no worse than when a human gets a cold. Humans don't get vaccines to protect against the common cold, and that's essentially all KC is. A little bit of meds, and it was cleared up within a week for Jackson. Did you read the link I posted about bordetella? The thing was vaccines is ... this is not some new aged stuff people spout around forums. It's proven scientifically. Quote:
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11-08-2012, 09:36 AM | #13 | |
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11-08-2012, 10:15 AM | #14 |
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| I'm glad to hear Bailey is doing better after this ordeal. Vaccinations, even when spaced a couple of weeks apart, put me on edge, even with my big boys. We haven't had any reactions yet, but there is always that risk.
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11-08-2012, 10:49 AM | #15 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: benton, ar, united states
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| My boys get a steroid shot about 15 minutes before they get their vaccines. They used to act miserable the day after their shots walking around like it hurt with every step they took. But since I started getting them the steroid shots they've been much better. |
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