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03-08-2005, 09:11 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Louisiana
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| Parti Color Yorkies??? Ok, I just visited the AKC website and there is no mention of Parti Color Yorkies, However the website below claims to have AKC registered Parti Color Yorkies. What's up with that? http://www.crownridgegems.com/
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03-08-2005, 10:59 PM | #2 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gilbert/Queen Creek, Arizona
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| Are they just Biewers? I have no idea
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03-09-2005, 05:30 AM | #3 |
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| They are probable something they crossed with a maltese or something and put papers on anyway. black /gold black/ tan blue/gold blue/ tan are the colors
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03-09-2005, 06:28 AM | #4 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: wilmington
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| i saw this web site last night and my husband who knows way more than i do about yorkies says that they are a color mutation. personally i think they look weird, but i perfer the old time and true blue and gold. also when you breed for this kind of mutation and others you are just asking for trouble in my opinion. do the breeders know what they are doing? my mother bred dogs the whole time i was growing up. one litter a year in the fall. if a off color pup was born she had it tested for all kinds of things and made sure that it was spayed or neuterd before it found a forever home. these people look like they are only after the money to me. |
03-09-2005, 07:01 AM | #5 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| Parti's AKC will register purebred Parti's..they have a full list of acceptable colors..simply ask for the list, but these are not eligible for showing. Only standand color can be shown. Many posts prior to this have explained the pie bald gene for anyone interested. Biewers are German and they are also purebred, but not AKC ..must be registered with Biewer COA. |
03-09-2005, 07:19 AM | #6 |
Got Mojo? Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami
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| Pat...do you know if this happens because of the breeds it was mixed to get to yorkies today? A lot of people believe that maltese was one of them...so i guess it would expaind the white... I also notice that some puppies have a little bit of white in the chest and later on it dissappears...it is so interesing |
03-09-2005, 07:43 AM | #7 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN
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| Are Briewers a type of breed of Yorkie or are they a totally different breed that looks like a yorkie? |
03-09-2005, 09:54 AM | #8 |
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| colors I can only tell you what the Germans tell me about Biewers and US breeders regarding Parti-colors. They are a genetic mutation...the gene is called pie bald...The Germans said they are purebred..US breeders have to send a photo and pedigree to get them AKC registered. My friend had no trouble registering her Parti male with AKC..they looked at photo's and pedigree and determined it was purebred. When you mix the breeds you get pups like the ones in the recent ads.."Red Yorkies"...that pup looks like an orange poodle mixed with a Yorkie...it has no AKC papers either..infact AKC will refuse to register it because it has no Yorkie traits. I have never seen a Maltese/Yorkie mix that has the colors of a Biewer. The Germans have bred them for over 20 yrs..they have a very set standand of marking so they may be shown....they must have 4 white legs and white on the black body. A patch of white on a leg or chest is not a parti or Biewer..normal color Yoekies have that type white. These odd colors are bringing breeders so much money they are ripping off the buyer with mixes. Remember the breeders who clipped the Pom pups into a lion cut and sold them for $3000..I would be a touch upset LOL LOL when my $3000 rare breed grew it's Pom coat back. |
03-09-2005, 11:07 AM | #9 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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| When we got Lexi at age 6 weeks, she was the typical black and tan puppy. The only difference was that she had a white (not silver) "lightening bolt" on her forehead. Now that she's 8 months old, she has a silver head, black body, copper face and paws and a WHITE chin and chest. Three of her paws are tipped in white and one of the pads on her back paw (the one that is copper) is white instead of black. She even has the pink skin under the white fur on her chest with brown pigment patches on her skin. She was sold to us as purebred (no papers, not registered). We were shown both of her parents and neither of them had white anywhere. Does this mean that she was crossed somewhere in her bloodline? I assume that because her white is so white (very different than the silver on her head) that it will stay this color? Sorry for so many questions all the time. She's my first and I have noone else who knows so much about Yorkies. Here are a couple of pics that show how distinct the white runs down her beard and chest. It's almost as if someone took a very fine white pencil and drew her beard.
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03-09-2005, 11:14 AM | #10 |
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| parti color Yorkies I own a beautiful parti male Yorkie and he is AKC registered. I also own Biewers that were originally from Germany. If I sent a pic of a passel of these pups together you would not be able to tell one from the other..I have seen many Yorkie puppies who are from standard color parents and who, when the puppies were born, had white flashes on tummy, forehead and legs. They are not partis, Biewers or anything other than mis-marked Yorkies. The white is almost always in the areas that turn tan or gold and disappear when the puppy becomes adult. Those Yorkies who are called Parti (USA) or Biewer(Germany) are piebalds and have the typical ticking on their skin just as Dalmatians or piebald Doxies. As YorkieRose said, you will not get the pattern of a parti by mixing 2 breeds as the piebald gene is the factor not the characteriatics of the breeds used in the mix... |
03-09-2005, 11:18 AM | #11 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| Lexi Standand color Yorkies do not to my knowlwedge have any brown pigment on the skin. Lexi might carry Parti genes..but I am not an expert. I do know I have never seen brown pigment on the skin of my Yorkies or anyone I groomed..we are talking about hundreds in numbers. It is so easy to fake papers on purebred dogs, so ones without papers coudl be anything. A well known breeder once told me even show pedigrees are 50% faked in many lines. She told me to never call a breeder and say I wanted a puppy from a any certain bloodline, because unreputable breeders will "find" one by the end of the week. Lexi is darling and I would not care if she was or wasn't. |
03-09-2005, 11:20 AM | #12 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| question Whispersmom..what do you think about Lexi having brown pigment? I am stumped! |
03-09-2005, 11:26 AM | #13 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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| Thanks. I really, really don't care WHAT she is. I love her so much. I could even care less if she's purebred I forgot to mention that the skin on her chest where her pigmentation is is alot lighter pink that anywhere else on her body. When I look at it my first thought is "albino". Yes, it compares to a dalmation. I'll take a picture when I get home. I'm really just interested in finding out whether she's silky or cotton. Her hair mats on her chest only. The rest seems soft (albeit "psycho fur"). It LOOKS like cotton but feels soft and is easy to brush. I guess time will tell. She goes to the groomer on Friday. I just want to say to everyone on this board for being so nice and patient and answering questions so quickly. I don't know what I'd do without all of you through the health issues to the funny pictures to the debates (opinions) about food, eye reflection, treats, oh just everything. I'm really glad I found a place that has so many caring, understanding people.
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03-09-2005, 11:32 AM | #14 |
Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD
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| YorkieRose, I am checking my parti boy and comparing him with my piebald-gene carrying girl. I don't see any brownish coloration on the skin of my mom who is the gene carrier. I would wonder if I did see discolorations on my dogs that had NO parti/piebald in their background. Possibly Lexie does have piebalding in her background. The Yorkies I have seen with white flashes were the standard colors as adults..the white had blended into the tan or gold.. AKC has very specific discriptions of what constitutes a PARTI color and a few white patches does not a parti make...I think these dogs are so cute I cannot imagone life without them but I will NOT pay somebody to make a dummy out of me by paying them the outrageous prices they are asking.. |
03-09-2005, 11:32 AM | #15 |
BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois
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| Absolutely no expert here but Lexi looks purebred to me. The way I understand it if two genetic mutations are bred carrying a parti gene (per say) (parents may be a solid yorkie coloring) and those recessive genes may turn up with a parti coloring. Lexi looks to me if she carries that gene. Please correct me if Im wrong. 60 % estimate of my yorkies have a white tip of some kind. BUt they are very small and with age almost disappear as if never there. ANyway, Lexi's mom she is a very pretty girl! |
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