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09-06-2012, 06:57 PM | #1 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Dew claw I have noticed a lot of questions about dew claws lately are breeders moving away from taking them off and if they are is there a reason? Just wondering. Callie has hers but she came from a puppy mill so I imagine puppy mills don't do it. I go back and forth with whether I should have them removed when ever the next time she goes under for anything is. She has ripped one off one time and exposed the vein and nerve and had to be sedated to have it cut back so that would be nice to avoid in the future.
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09-06-2012, 07:20 PM | #2 |
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| I think I read about a "movement" afoot to stop "mutilating" dogs, ie tail docking, dew claw removal, ear cropping, declawing cats, etc......the theory is that hunting dogs and working dogs may need to have dew claws removed, in order to keep them fromgetting them torn off or injured in the fields. "Lap dogs" do not do field trials and tear through shrubs and brush, so there is no real reason to have them removed. This is NOT my personnal theory...this is the thought processes behind the people that feel we are mutilating our pets unnecessarily..... |
09-06-2012, 07:32 PM | #3 |
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| I'll get grief for this I'm sure, but I think it's mainly the animal rights activists going overboard that is causing all this mass hysteria over what *they* are calling "cosmetic changes" IE: dew claw removal, tail docking, etc. When people start huffing and puffing about how such-and-such isn't humane - it forms ideas in the minds of others and snowballs. Sprout's dews are still there and he's 13 and I WISH they would have removed them when he was a couple of days old. They are *always* catching on blankets (afghans especially), clothing, sheets, shirts, even chew toys. He then yelps and of course...it hurts him. They also grow kitty-whompus and curly-cue even though we clip his claws on a routine basis. He hates it when we go for the dews because we have to 'position' that 'toe' differently in order to cut the claw safely...and it's uncomfortable for him. I'm 100% in favor of dew claw removal in the first few days of life. Last edited by YorkOfTheShire; 09-06-2012 at 07:34 PM. |
09-06-2012, 07:51 PM | #4 |
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| Clarifying: I'm not saying that animal rights activists are wrong. In fact, I'm against cropping ears because that is painful for the dog and with all the advances being made in the field of veterinary medicine, there are many things they can do to combat ear infections and yeast infections in dogs with 'floppy' ears (many things owners can do as well). I think the acceptable standards for AKC breeds that require cropped ears needs to change (my opinion). Dews though --those pesky little things get snagged on stuff on a daily basis, but the vet did say "yes, unfortunately he will have quite a bit of pain in recovery if you choose to do it at this age." He doesn't recommend it now, it's too late and should have been done when he was a few days old...and wasn't. |
09-06-2012, 08:13 PM | #5 | |
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09-06-2012, 08:16 PM | #6 | |
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09-06-2012, 08:39 PM | #7 | |
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I thought I read somewhere at some point that it was a certain 'look' they were trying to achieve in the breed...and, of course, there's the Standard...ear cropping is specified....they'd crop on that alone. I also thought I'd read that Dobie's are thought (by 'would be' perps, perhaps) to look 'mean' (like they 'mean business') with cropped ears, and 'friendly' uncropped...so perhaps not as effective as guard dogs...or so was my understanding...and I think that line of reasoning had to do with 'guard dog' work. It was the same, I believe, with GSDs...for police dog work. Hope I am wrong about this...it's vague in my mind...been a while since I was involved with Dobies or GSD's...but now I am really curious...and my brain hurts from having to think of that old info! Oh, and did you see the dew claw pdf in that other dew claw thread?
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09-06-2012, 09:03 PM | #8 |
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| I posted in the other dew claw thread. My Katie has dew claws. She comes from a breeder whose lines are from working dogs, and along with conformation, she trains them a lot in obedience and agility. There is a reason for keeping dew claws intact. Katie is my first dog with dew claws. She is extremely active when she plays and retrieves her ball, and she hasn't had a problem with them. I was trying to understand why she left the dew claws, and I came across the following article: http://www.caninesports.com/DewClawExplanation.pdf I was glad that Katie has her dew claws after I read this document.
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09-06-2012, 09:16 PM | #9 | |
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Body and Mia both have dew claws and no problems...Brody's tail is also intact...I like it. I trim dew claws too. The article is excellent...thank you. I saw it in the other thread, but I already knew they were important...just could not remember details. Thank you for linking this article.
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09-07-2012, 07:40 AM | #10 | |
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09-07-2012, 01:31 PM | #11 |
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| All of our dogs have dewclaws with no issues. We just cut them short like any other nail.
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09-07-2012, 02:07 PM | #12 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| My family must be the family that only rareish and weird things happen to lol. The female beagle I grew up with he dew claws grow crazy fast and will curl and stick in her foot in like I swear it seems a week. Then Callie got hers ripped off.
__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! |
09-07-2012, 02:18 PM | #13 |
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| Levi does not have dew claws but Lily does. When Lily was spayed I ask my vet about the dew claws. She would not touch them said it would be like an amputation now...so I just keep them cut real short.
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09-07-2012, 02:36 PM | #14 |
YT 500 Club Member | My pup is six months old and her dew claws are growing weird. Very thin loose, and some upside down. She's being spayed next month, and I asked vet for advice and she said it would be like/an amputation. Having second thoughts now. Heard recovery is painful too.
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09-07-2012, 02:43 PM | #15 |
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| Oh, I've had two small dogs with dewclaws and they would hang them in my afghans especially and on my sweaters, sometimes crying out and going mad until I could get them loose. After those dogs, I vowed no more dew claws.
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