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Old 08-06-2012, 07:33 AM   #1
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Ok I have read a posting simalir to this one "I muzzle my yorkie for 10 hours a day " and seen alot of anger owners which is understandable. So let me give you our story. We have a Yorkie name Peanut who is around 7 years old. My wife has had him since a baby and unforutantly didnt train him properly so he is an inside dog only. He has ruined carpets, hard wood flooring, walls etc from using the bathroom. Well we just recently sold our home and currently living with Parents to save some money to purhcase another home. Father in law will not allow the dog out of in the house as he doesnt want the dog going to the bathroom everywhere.

So curently what we are doing is putting the dog in a cage during the day while at work, we put him outside for 30 minutes or so in the morning prior to leaving and then again when we get home and then right before bed. We also have one of those Diaper wraps we put over him to allow him to run around for awhile in the house and not worry about using the restroom. The main issue we have is when we put Peanut in the cage at night he barks none stop and Father in law wont have it, so we have been muzzling the dog to stop the barking. My wife and I both hate to do this, and the only other option we can think of is put the cage and dog outside in the garage where Barking shouldnt be as bad. We have tried those things that omit sounds to stop barking those dont work either.

Also the dog will use the bathroom in his cage and then get it everywhere and is down right disgusting as he absoultely hates being in a cage.

Please we are open to suggestions, as my wife refuses to allow the dog to be given to anyone else. Right now I am thinking the only option is to move and find a place to rent, which isnt the best choice for My Wife and my Son.
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children's liquid bendayrl (sp) just a small amount--might work --might NOT it makes them sleepy just like human kids. calm him down enough where he can go to sleep and not need the muzzle???? don't nobody jump on me either LOL it's just a sugestion, you can go to your vet and get a tranizier (sp) bendryl is cheaper.
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I suggest taking him for long walks in the evening, and let him sleep in the bed with you. Yorkies love to spend time with their owners.
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Not going to yell at you (not my style) but you have a couple of issues to deal with. You need to start potty training your dog (I personally think you can still do it at 7 years of age with some serious work) and you need to make Peanut love his crate and want to be in there.

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1. For the barking you need to enforce that it is not acceptable, when Peanuts bark you need to develop a signal with him that indicates no barking. I use a hand clap and a stern "No Barking" command. I have heard of people who use a can with pennies, when the barking starts shake the can.

2. Not yelling but, your Peanut is in a crate to long without a potty break, can you have someone take him outside about half way through the day? Also you need to get Peanut on a potty schedule and stick with it, trust me it took me almost two years to get my Sophie Kate potty trained, I had a lot of false starts until I realized it was me not her, I got her a schedule and we stick to it 7 days a week. Putting Peanut outside, unattended for 30 minutes is not enough, go out with him and when he goes potty CELEBRATE, give him a treat and a lot of "good boys".

3. Just my opinion but Peanut needs exercise, putting him outside is not enough you may want to play fetch with him or take him for a walk. When my baby was young and slept in her crate at night I always took her for a 45 minute walk before bedtime.

I keep thinking that you are getting a new house and you don't want to move Peanut in with bad habits, get started now and keep with it. Remember Peanut wants to please you (even if you question it he does).

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Honestly I would just put a buddy belt on him at night with a pad to stop the accidents rather than crating and muzzling the poor little guy. He must be so confused. Definately lots of walks and excercise. He can still be house broken. Now that you are getting a new house hopefully all the doggie smells will not be there and it can be a fresh start. When he has an accident there make sure it is cleaned immediately with enzyme cleaner to remove all traces of it. And get him on a regular schedule or get him used to peepads. Good Luck.
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Oh my, you must ALL be miserable I'd definitely work on the potty training as suggested, it CAN be done, I promise! He probably barks because he doesn't know why he has to spend so much time in the crate. If you could cut that time down to the absolute bare minimum it may help with the barking. Use the bellybands and let him have free run of one room, maybe gate off the kitchen and then keep him in your bedroom when you retire for the night. He just wants to be WITH you
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Not going to yell at you (not my style) but you have a couple of issues to deal with. You need to start potty training your dog (I personally think you can still do it at 7 years of age with some serious work) and you need to make Peanut love his crate and want to be in there.

Some suggestion are:

1. For the barking you need to enforce that it is not acceptable, when Peanuts bark you need to develop a signal with him that indicates no barking. I use a hand clap and a stern "No Barking" command. I have heard of people who use a can with pennies, when the barking starts shake the can.

2. Not yelling but, your Peanut is in a crate to long without a potty break, can you have someone take him outside about half way through the day? Also you need to get Peanut on a potty schedule and stick with it, trust me it took me almost two years to get my Sophie Kate potty trained, I had a lot of false starts until I realized it was me not her, I got her a schedule and we stick to it 7 days a week. Putting Peanut outside, unattended for 30 minutes is not enough, go out with him and when he goes potty CELEBRATE, give him a treat and a lot of "good boys".

3. Just my opinion but Peanut needs exercise, putting him outside is not enough you may want to play fetch with him or take him for a walk. When my baby was young and slept in her crate at night I always took her for a 45 minute walk before bedtime.

I keep thinking that you are getting a new house and you don't want to move Peanut in with bad habits, get started now and keep with it. Remember Peanut wants to please you (even if you question it he does).

Good luck.
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What are you trying? Caging and muzzling are not training. They are ways of getting a problem out of the way. They do not change the situation. It only punishes the dog for something it is not responsible for. I hope that this dog has not been out in the heat we have been having this summer.

It sounds like you have very little time for this dog. It needs training. It needs to be trained as though it were a puppy. Since your wife and you do not know how to train a dog your only option is to learn proper dog training techniques or re home the dog with someone who knows how to re-train an adult dog. Of course a dog that has had run of the house is going to bark when caged away from everyone it knows. Putting him in the garage may help you to sleep but I doubt the neighbors will like it. Is the garage air conditioned?

I feel bad for this dog. He does not understand why he is being treated like this. It certainly is not his fault he is not housebroken. It takes a lot of time spent training these creatures. No one did that for this little guy and now he is being punished for it. He needs exercise, play and training for more than a few minutes in the morning and evening.
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I dont think that it is too late to start training him. Although I have never had to Im sure it can be done even at his age. The sooner the better ...

Im wondering who if anyone is home with this little guy during the day?

It will take much much more than just a few trips out doors to get him trained. Plus it is going to take everyone in the home to pitch in and help. I dont see why they wouldn't seeing as how this is their home and they want to prevent it from becoming a doggy waist land.

I have some tips for training on my site that may be helpful. It will probably be much harder than if you were training a pup since he is stuck in his ways but very much worth all of the effort it will take (for everyone) to get this guy potty trained.

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Training is what needs to be done not muzzling the poor dog that is the lazy way of taking care of the problem and if some one did it to me I would pee and poo everywhere too. Also garages are not like inside the house they can get to hot and to cold and that is not where a yorkie should be.
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children's liquid bendayrl (sp) just a small amount--might work --might NOT it makes them sleepy just like human kids. calm him down enough where he can go to sleep and not need the muzzle???? don't nobody jump on me either LOL it's just a sugestion, you can go to your vet and get a tranizier (sp) bendryl is cheaper.
Benadryl doesn't make my dog sleepy and can actually make some dogs hyper as well as some kids. Drugging a dog is just as bad as muzzling the dog, training is what needs to be done not masking and hiding the problem.
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It sounds like you guys do not have time for this poor little guy, You can not cage a dog, or muzzle a dog 24/7. This dog needs to be trained, he needs special time with you and your wife daily, training him, teaching him, walking him, and playing with him. This poor dog sounds miserable! It sounds like he gets 0 attention. I understand her not wanting to give him up since she has had him for a long time, however what you are doing is not right. Since your FIL does not want him in the house bc of his potty issues it is up to YOU and your Wife to fix the problem not just mask it- Further more you dont even come on here asking for training advice, you come on here asking how to keep a dog quiet from barking- How do you think the dog is going to act being locked up in a cage all day???

Also your title " Please dont yell at us... Were Trying" is laughable. What are you trying???
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Not sure if you all read the entire post by the OP but they said this just started because they:

"Well we just recently sold our home and currently living with Parents to save some money to purhcase another home. Father in law will not allow the dog out of in the house as he doesnt want the dog going to the bathroom everywhere. "

I too am in total disagreement with muzzling him and caging all the time but I wouldn't suggest rehoming to anyone who has had and loved a dog 7 years until they have exhausted all other avenues for help.
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You've gotten a log of good advice already. Have you thought about getting professional help with training for the barking? This would also give you another opptunity to spend some quality time with your dog. Dogs want to please and your little one, even at 7, will learn so quickly as he will be interacting with you, which is what he probably just wants to do.

As for putting him in a cage/crate all day while you are at work and sleeping, have your considered an expen or maybe gating off in a bathroom? I know you said your fil, doesn't want him out in the house, this might at least be somewhat of a comprise. If he should potty, most bathrooms have either tile or vinyl flooring that will stand up to potty accidents.

I think that if you spend some quality time with your little one with a long walk or some play time after you get home from work, you will find that bedtime will not be so loud. Have you tried letting him be in your bedroom at night, either sleeping with you or at least being in the same room in his crate?

Good luck, he is just not know why he's got to be in this situation when he's been able to roam freely for so long. I wouldn't recommend the crating for so many hours or muzzling. I think that the muzzling is plain unnecessary and you may find that you have a dog who may become very defensive and agressive from having to wear a muzzle all the time. I hope that your situation and your dogs situation will improve quickly. It's not fair to either of you, especially the dog.
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im sorry i understand you're having some issues but imo you dont have the time or take the time to give this baby what it needs nor the consistent training it needs to be able to be on a schedule and for him to understand what you expect from him. im not trying to judge but it sounds like this baby would be so much better off with a family that understands how to work with him and will give him the attention he needs. i just feel he is being mistreated and not trying to cause trouble solely my opinion. i do wish you luck and hope i am completely wrong.
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