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06-10-2012, 11:04 AM | #1 |
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| Is $850 okay price for a AKC registered yorkie? Hello, I am thinking about getting a yorkie sometime soon! and I have researched about yorkies for weeks now. My concern is that if I buy a cheap yorkie, I would have to spend more money on vet fees through the roof I think.. But, I cannot afford to buy more than $1000 for a PET dog. The breeder that I have talked to is breeding show quality dogs..which means their yorkies are going to be expensive PLUS AKC registered (but I think 850 is not THAT expensive compared to other show quality dogs). However, based on some research that I have done, ACA or CKC registered dogs are from puppy mill or BYBs.... BUT!! is it really bad to buy a yorkie from a BYB? I am not trying to show my dog or anything. I just want a yorkie as a pet. So my question is... Do you think 850 is an ok price for a pet? Also, do you think it really matters whether the dog is registered as CKC or AKC? (quality wise) I just need some help...thanks!!! |
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06-10-2012, 11:32 AM | #2 |
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| My two cents: I'd urge you to steer clear of CKC and ACA dogs. Does this breeder test their breeding stock for Liver Shunt, MVD, Luxating Patella, Collapsed Trachea, etc.? I'd choose a breeder with a good health guaranty and the parents are clear of hereditary genetic conditions. Pay now or take the risk of paying big $$ later. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ead-first.html
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06-10-2012, 11:35 AM | #3 | |
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You may have to save longer and pay more to get a puppy from a breeder that does all that, and you'll almost certainly have to be put on a waiting list, very very few good breeders have puppies available and ready to go! Especially with Yorkies where they often have small 1-3 puppy litters! $850 is a fair price, but ONLY IF all the proper screening and health testing is done. If not, you're better off getting one from a rescue or shelter - My tiny 3 lb Benjamin is an amazing dog, everyone that meets him loves him - and he came from the kill shelter here in Vegas. If you're not going to spend the time/money to find a reputable breeder and get a healthy puppy from well health-screened parents, you're better off with a rescue - you're saving a life, and the health risks are the same, as you have no idea what genetic problems you may run into down the road either way.
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06-10-2012, 11:39 AM | #4 | |
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06-10-2012, 11:46 AM | #5 |
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| Depends... I don't know the answer to your question really. I'm picking up my new girl on Friday from my breeder. I'll share a little of my story to see if it helps. I originally adopted a male yorkie for a few hundred dollars. After 2 vet checks (1 + 2nd opinion), the puppy had a congenital condition that I couldn't deal with and so I returned him to the breeder and received refund. That breeder was probably a BYB - but I didn't know, she claimed to be doing it for a long time and had several lovely pups/sire & dam when I visited her home. The boy puppy has been kept by this breeder. After that, I was determined to do much more research before buying any puppy. I learned that - over all - quality pups that come from quality breeders DO cost a lot of money to rear. Not just the whelping/weaning/vet bills/shots, etc. but also other testing - like DNA. To get to the point of having quality puppies, a good breeder devotes huge amounts of time and money to create optimum lines. So, there's something to be said for "you get what you pay for." On the U.S. east coast, Yorkies cost a premium. I went to my local YTCA chapter and contacted all the breeders listed there. (There weren't that many.) Some had puppies, some didn't - but they all gave me some great advice along the way. I decided to save my money up and purchase the right puppy. I knew that I'd find her after having the funds to buy her. In my case, I was able to put a deposit on a puppy and now I'm picking her up when I'm able to pay for her. It hasn't taken very long and I'm happy I did it this way. I have a lifetime connection with my local breeder. And that's very important to me. My girl is quality. Now, that's no guaranty that I won't encounter a problem - but at least I feel that I've done the best I could do. So, as to $850 (a number I've seen thrown around by a lot of BYBs), it may be the right amount for a quality puppy in your location. In my area, like I said, that's the price of a back yard, no papers, no history, strange registry dog. It doesn't mean that you won't find a healthy puppy, however. You'll really need an excellent vet to figure that out. Also, finding your vet is as important as finding the puppy!! IMHO. I went to 2 of them and with my new pup, I'm going to the second one from now on. Hope you find your answers and your puppy and be happy! Good luck in your search. |
06-10-2012, 02:17 PM | #6 |
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| Please just do a lot of research so that you know what to look for and when you ask breeder questions, you will already know the right answer. Don't take excuses for what isn't right and please don't believe that the more you spend the better the puppy. Choppa cost me $500, he had no health defects, an amazing personality and at a year old he was 5 pounds. The price does not always reflect on the puppy. Read in the Breeder Review section to see some of the issues some parents have had with puppies and breeders to get an idea of what you want to look out for. Hope that helps. I am in the process of adding another so I am researching again in case I missed something before. Knowledge is power. Good luck on your search for your new baby, prepare to fall completely in love with your new yorkie.
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06-10-2012, 02:34 PM | #7 |
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| I had this bookmarked and thought I'd share it with you: A backyard breeder is the term used for dog breeders that decide to breed their dog even though they have little or no experience and knowledge about dog breeding. They may have purchased or adopted a purebred dog and then decided to breed it. The usual motivation is money. Another reason is a feeling that their dog will not have a complete life unless it has puppies. They feel their great dog needs to procreate and they deserve to make a quick profit. What Are The Problems With Backyard Breeders? These dog breeders are not as well versed on breeding and on the breed as a reputable dog breeder. Their dogs are often breed too much and without regard to the ancestry of the dogs being bred. The breeder may not know the full health history of the ancestors and bad characteristics may be passed on. If you buy from a breeder and do not have a chance to meet the pups parents beware! And if you do not get “papers” proving that the dog is purebred you should also be wary. This is a sure sign that corners are being cut They may sell all of the puppies that are bred but the lack of screening and advice for new owners may lead to selling a dog to the wrong owners. The screening is often just your ability to pay for the dog! If you are not asked a lot of questions about your ability to care for the dog that is a good sign that the breeder just wants to make a sale A good way to determine if a breeder is a backyard breeder (not reputable) is to ask for references and to check with other local breeders about this breeder. You can also call the local humane society to see if they recommend the breeder. And a call to the kennel club is a great place to check. If you buy from a breeder that is not qualified your dog may have health issues, a bad temperament and there will be no guarantee to back them up. Make sure that you visit the property of any breeder you buy from. A good breeder will not own too many dogs and the dogs they do have will be social and well trained. Overcrowding, untidy conditions or shy dogs are all bad signs. Dogs left out doors is also a bad sign. It can be difficult to determine if a breeder is reputable or not, so take your time to ensure that you get a good dog from a good breeder. Backyard Breeder
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06-10-2012, 02:39 PM | #8 |
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| It is NEVER ok to purchase from a BYB, never. You both have a wonderful tool in YT to come and ask about any breeder your looking at, the folks here can help you to select a good breeder. With that said, anything can happen at anytime no matter the cost, the breed or the precautions taken. Any living breathing thing has risk for disease, but wouldn't you want to select from someone who breeds for the health and good of the breed and not for torture and greed?
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06-10-2012, 04:45 PM | #9 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | There is much truth that you get what you pay for! Is $850 too much? Is it too little? The answer is of course it depends. A poorly bred dog, that has a bad temperament and bad knees will cost you a whole lot more than $850. And quite frankly some things just can't be "fixed". So in one way that dog would be too much if it was "free". There is a saying; "Buy your breeder first". BAckyard Breeders who do not breed for health and temperament, never mind to the standard (none of them do that by definition), should never be supported. The other concern I have, if the purchase price of the dog is a "stretch" for you, then you probably have not put away money for your dog's on-going regular health needs, never mind if emergencies arise. Some folks call it making up a "puppy purse". This money is set aside prior to the purchase of your puppy, for those rainey days. As well many folks decide to buy pet insurance. Just be aware to get insurance that covers genetic defects, and make sure you know if your "insurer" wants you to pay up front, and then re-imburse you. I wish you the best of luck in your search. How much should be in that puppy purse, again depends, on a number of factors. How much will you continue to be able to set aside monthly to go into that savings? If the amount is minimal (under $50), then you want to start with a pretty healthy balance: $2000-$2500. Also it is a good idea to apply for Care Credit, and it is there if you need it for medical emergencies.
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06-10-2012, 04:48 PM | #10 | |
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06-10-2012, 04:56 PM | #11 | |
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On the note of pet insurance - I think it's a great idea, but keep in mind that even if the insurance company will pay your vet directly instead of you paying it and being reimbursed, that doesn't mean the VET will allow that. Especially if you end up at an emergency center. So that's something to carefully factor in. All my personal dogs are insured - And it's given me a great peace of mind when things happen knowing I don't have to worry much about finances when making medical decisions, I can go with whatever the vet recommends, since after my deductible, I only pay 10% out of my own pocket. The emergency center in town as well as my regular and my holistic vet all work directly with my insurance company for payment. Now insurance doesn't cover everything - And I've never seen one without a "wait" period, especially for genetic problems. So don't get insurance and expect it to cover genetic problems, and if anything is detected within that wait period, the condition and anything they can relate to it won't be covered.
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06-10-2012, 04:58 PM | #12 | |
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Now, I had a Yorkie (a puppymill rescue) many years ago that made it to old age without any emergencies. So, you may not ever need to use a reserve fund for anything at all. BUT just in case - a money sources is a very very good idea. Good luck. | |
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