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05-09-2012, 11:23 AM | #1 |
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| What am i going to doooo? ok so bella is a snappy little dog and she hates other dogs. a man had a staffy off the lead and it came running towards her and he was shouting its ok shes friendly....yeah but bella isnt! if that dog tried to protect itself what am i to do! even i couldnt take on a staffy! one time another staffy ran up to bella and growled at her and because i paniced big style i just pulled on the lead untill bella was in my arms i could of broke her neck! it was awful what do i do when their dog is off the lead running towards bella! because i cant control their dog and some stupid woman today said to her husband she shouldnt let her dog act like that because bella was snapping at a little puppy who went past i was so anrgy i try my hardest
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05-09-2012, 11:25 AM | #2 |
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| People are SOOOO stupid. That's the famous line - "he/she is friendly!" Yeah, but like you said, what if mine is NOT?! People are so rude. Unfortunately, I don't have any advice. Thankfully don't run into off leash dog problems too much. Maybe even carry pepper spray, or some kind of a stick, just to use a blockade. You have to protect your dog first and foremost.
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05-09-2012, 11:30 AM | #3 | |
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well, imo you should not take her to any place where there may be dogs running loose. Maybe you could get in touch with a dog trainer to help you with socializing her to other dogs. you never know how other dogs are going to react to her behaviour . It could be fatal... of course you are doing the best you can but maybe you need a little help. talk to your vet & maybe they can put you in touch with a trainer to help resolve this issue. good luck | |
05-09-2012, 11:33 AM | #4 |
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| oh im sorry its a hard situation and i do understand because my princess can get snappy with another dog if she fears them or what not. i always pick her up. its the only control i have. thankfully the unleashed dog has never jumped up on me. your doing your best to socialize her with walks and unfortunately people think every dog is ok with other dogs or humans. sorry i wish i could offer you more help on the situation but im so sure others will have great suggestions.
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05-09-2012, 11:40 AM | #5 |
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| thank you for your help everyone...i wish i could get a trainer alll the ones in my area are like £200 odd and they only see you once and then keep in touch by emails and stuff but thats not what i want i want to be able for them to actually come out with me and train them like 'its me or the dog' lol but that will cost a fortune guess im just going to have to put up with it sadly shes a mennace she hates kids and strangers too lol
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05-09-2012, 11:45 AM | #6 |
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| Hmm, I saw you also posted about hurting her neck when you pull. I know this isn't a solution to your problem, but if you invest in a step-in harness for Bella if you have to suddenly move her around or have to change direction, it won't have any harm on her neck like a simple collar and leash would. With regards to her behavior, sadly we can only train dogs, and not humans. Gizmo like some dogs, but others he'll go ballistic with. Is there any cheaper group classes that you could go to that have a smaller amount of people and possibly smaller dogs?
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05-09-2012, 11:48 AM | #7 | |
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did you check cesar millans website...? i forgot about him for a minute but he has helped me huge with princess. when i first got her you could not even come into my house or she would bark at you literally for the whole time you were there. she hated other dogs and i used a lot of his training tips and such. i did also have a trainer come the house one time and she offered me great tips but she couldnt even get anywhere near princess so i didnt continue that route. Dog Training DVDs, Books, Dog Supplies. Articles & Video Tutorials. | Dog Whisperer Cesar Millan see if this can offer you any help. even if you cannot buy the videos try to watch some of his episodes and maybe that will give you some tricks and training tips.
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05-09-2012, 11:51 AM | #8 | |
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05-09-2012, 11:54 AM | #9 | |
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I was thinking this also. I read somewhere it is best to walk yorkies with harness and a solid not retractable leash.. that way you can pick them up fast. Remy is very social, but she can play the snappy little B***** at times... my dh puts up with it which drives me nuts. I would say get a trainer to help you, calm down you can do it!!!
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05-09-2012, 12:03 PM | #10 |
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| I FOUND THIS WEBSITE THAT MAY BE OF SOME HELP ASPCA - Virtual Pet Behaviorist - Dogs Who Are Reactive on Leash |
05-09-2012, 12:33 PM | #11 |
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| I totally feel your pain. I have a very reactive dog, he thankfully is only dog reactive, but it's not a happy sight when he spots another dog. He doesn't bark at people or anything. Here are some things my trainer and I have been working on to teach him how to interact around other dogs: Training for human- first it's an unfair match up to have a dog on a leash with a dog who isn't, you are within your rights to say to other owners "my dog is reactive" or "I'm in the middle of a training session can you please give me space" or simply when someone says their dog is friendly, loudly replying, "mine isn't, and I'm working on it/trainging please be careful" I have a slew of things I say to people to leave us alone. Personally I do spend a lot of money on his training (classes twice a week) and I don't want it wasted by some big off-lead dog ruining all our work, because their owner doesn't know better than to respect others. (sorry that's my rant) Also avoid anywhere where it is legally allowed to have a dog off-leash. If they have a dog off-leash anywhere else, you are within your rights to tell them it's illegal to be off-leash. Training for pooch: "ici" call it whatever you want, but I've trained Harley when I say "ici" he runs up my leg into my arms. Took a few weeks, but now I do it at every traffic light, every time I'm unsure about a situation, and whenever I just want to cuddle with him. (PM me and I'll send you details on how to teach this if you're interested). Positive reinforcement for quiet- we do this in several different ways, if I'm walking down the street and I see a dog I ask Harley to sit and I constantly reward him for sitting there quietly while the other dog approaches. (good time to tell the other owner to give you space). If a barking episode happens, turn and walk the other way, when the pooch is quiet again, reward. I also usually say, "thank-you" when he stops barking and "good" (which is our click or reward marker) when he turns and comes away from the distraction and give him a treat. Exposure - many times reactivity in small dogs is based from fear. They are small, and most other dogs are bigger, so in order to feel bigger they act tough. Start by exposing them to small dogs. I have a tiny dog group that my trainer offers for a drop in fee of $10 its all dogs under 13lb. Check around to see if any small breed groups in your area have similar social groups. Harley has really come out of his shell with these dogs, and I've learned a lot about who he likes and who he doesn't. Once this gets better, then you can start exposing them to more intense scenarios, like parks, large dogs etc. Leaving the mother/father-ship - We noticed with our trainer if he starts barking in class, she just comes and takes him away from me for a time out. he knows that he's only allowed to be with his mommie if he's calm and quiet, otherwise my coach takes him for a walk to explore the dogs he's barking at. Lastly I also agree with a harness rather than a collar. Harley's step-in harness will not hurt him if I pick him up. He just gives me an evil look when I do it... lol. Sorry for the book I just typed. It's a topic I've been working on for about 6 months. We've seen ALOT of progress, but it takes time and patience. Hope even one of the above things is helpful.
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05-09-2012, 09:49 PM | #12 |
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| thank you for all your help! i dont use a collar anymore this was going back a while before bella had a 'reverse sneeze' and i thought it was 'CP' and scared the life out of me! i just use a harness now and never had to pull her up anymore....i did pick her up once when a MASSIVE dog came up to bella just to sniff she went MENTAL in my arms the man was saying put her down its only going to make her worse.....some dogs like that big dog knew to turn away but some might go into attack mode.....the thing about me is im painfully shy and get easily embarrased which propably has a lot to do with training i dont wanna look 'stupid' doing things but guess im going to just have to do it for bellas sake lol
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05-10-2012, 01:43 AM | #13 |
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| I had problems on walks... I asked a neighbor who walks her dog alot if she would mind helping me. We walked our dogs almost 20 feet apart, switching who was in front or behind, and over a few weeks we got closer and closer till finally they accepted each other and we could walk together and hold a conversation, lol. Then some other neighbors joined in with their dogs... we had close to 10 dogs walking calmly through the neighborhood... and we got to know our neighbors in the process!
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05-10-2012, 07:27 AM | #14 |
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| That must be really stressful for you. I can see you're in the UK, like me, which means unlike in the states, dogs can be off-leash pretty much anywhere. I would really try and get some training, perhaps not a dog behaviouralist (£200) but even some basic training, more like £10 a class type stuff. Perhaps your dog is just anxious, and if you taught it that you were the pack leader, and in complete control, it could relax, and would stop barking so much. As an opposite side from the big-bad-dog situation, I am getting pretty annoyed at all of the small dogs who attack my yorkie. They snap at his face, and jump on him. Big dogs are always lovely. I think its largely that owners of small dogs don't feel they need to train their dogs, as their bite doesn't cause as much harm. However, I'm getting pretty cross at the amount of small dogs who bite at Ellington's face everytime we walk. He never growls back, never barks, never bites. |
05-10-2012, 07:43 AM | #15 |
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| I am afraid when big dogs (off leash) come running up to Zoey. There could be a problem. Zoey isn't afraid of big dogs, she is so friendly. I bought a canister of "muzzle" which is a spray that is legal - like mace - but for dogs. I carry it with me after an off leash dog came up and growled. There is website that sells this Muzzle. You can google it. It makes me a little more comfortable while walking my little one.
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