YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community


Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us.

Go Back   YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community > YorkieTalk > General Yorkshire Terrier Discussion
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar JavaChat Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-23-2012, 11:11 AM   #1
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
pokche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gatineau
Posts: 240
Cry Help before I give her away



Hello all,

It's been a while since I've been on the forum! Thank god you are still around... I need help!

My pretty Bikini is now almost 6 years old and she is a smart pup let me tell you!
I have three kids and my two oldest sons are soooo sweet to her and are helping me a lot with her.
Of course life is busy but I try and walk her everyday. But as the years go by the issues are getting worse.
First of all, she has tons of allergies. I've tried everything. Now she eats very good quality food. It's called CaniSource and it is natural ingredients dried in an oven. But I have to keep her on prednisolone because she scratches until she bleeds. I've tried supplements, everything I swear. And this is all year around even during the harsh months of winter here in QC. I could put her on Atopica but it's 90$ a month which I find expensive.

Besides this, she is a real barker. She barks at the door, when she sees people, when there is a slight noise, when she plays, when my husband comes in at night and we are all in bed. It's getting unlivable...

I've realized how stressed I was when I left for the first time in 6 years without her. I went on the 3 weeks trip... and every time the door rang, my heartbeat would go up and I would look for Bikini. It has become a natural instinct to me to protect people when they enter my house. This is not normal. Also, she still bolts out when she sees a dog or some type of people. She gets super excited and barks until people give her attention. I've tried training her but people are sooooo dumb sometimes. They think she's cute and the come to her and excite her.... Now she wants everybody to give her attention. But how can I get stranger not to give her attention?

My husband has asked me to give her away especially with 3 kids. We only had two kids when we got her but a surprised little girl joined our family 7 months ago.

I don't want to give her away... My oldest loves her to death to.

Would anybody have any recommendation on Yorkie's behavioural problems or books to recommend. A lot of sites seems to not recommend Ceasar Millan's techniques...

Thank you for listening to me... Hope I can find some support here
__________________
pokche is offline   Reply With Quote
Welcome Guest!
Not Registered?

Join today and remove this ad!

Old 03-23-2012, 11:25 AM   #2
Donating YT 3000 Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 7,652
Default

Oh don't give her awaaay!!! She just loves you and shes a spoiled Diva!!! I know they are like children sometimes and the stress can be highh....take a deep breath and don't panic. There is help.

There are many people on here who will be able to give some great advice.

As far as allergies, they can cause a pup to be jumpy and behavioral problems, because they are so uncomfortable...so IMHO I think you need to address this first.

If you have not already consulted with a Dermatologist or Allergist please do. They are very good at stuff like this.

If that is not in the budget consult with your vet about VARL. My pup has been on VARL for 11 months and it is wonderful. It is a blood test and the initial cost for testing is under $500. Once they determine the results a SERUM will be made for your pup and your vet will teach you how to inject (it really is simple) you will do this at various times for the first couple months eventually leading to a every 21 day injection. The serum is ordered 2ce a year and is under $200.

Another option is. GOO http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...e-try-yet.html,

I ordered mine today to supplement my VARL injections, with the hope that someday we will not need injections. Presently, I can only vouch for VARL, but I am trying the GOO.

Good Luck and please don't give up, we are here for you.
__________________
The Above advice/comments/reviews are my personal opinions based on my own experience/education/investigation and research and you can take them any way you want to......Or NOT!!!
lynzy420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
I Love My Yorkies
Donating Member
 
chachi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 37,147
Default

I hope you dont give her away because dogs can be trained to not be so bark. Get a whistle, a can with coins or whatever seems to get your dogs attention. Blow or shake it when she barks and say no bark. After a while all you will have to do is say no bark it works
__________________
Chachi's & Jewels Mom
Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431
Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427
chachi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 11:30 AM   #4
Donating YT 500 Club Member
 
impish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 954
Default

Sounds like the new addition to the family is spreading everything thin. it WILL get better. I completely suggest a behaviorist (dog) to see what tweaks could be make to work on the barking. The noise CAN cause a lot of stress.

Hang in there, and do what's right for your family as a whole.
impish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 11:54 AM   #5
Rosehill Yorkies
Donating YT Member
 
Yorkiemom1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
Default

Years ago, I had taken in a female Yorkie that the owner was going to take to the pound....I was married then, and when I brought the little dog home, all was fine UNTIL my husband walked inthe back door. That little dog went absolutely CRAZY, barking so relentlessly, she could hardly catch her breath.....then my son came home from school....same thing....come to find out, she had obviously been abused by some MAN and she hated MEN! Loved to be around women, but went gasping for air, snapping-jaws crazy when a man entered the room, even after all those years...it was like she was seeing them for the first time, every time she saw my husband or son. I worked with the dog for 3 years....my family was going to throw me and the dog out into the street....seriously, my husband said either the dog goes or he goes....I was sooo sad for her, I didnt want to send her away, because I seemed to be the ONLY CRAZY WOMAN in the world that would put up with the bahavior, constantly making excuses for her. SO I did the ONLY thing I could do....I bought a shock collar.....after less than 3 hours, she stopped the barking. THEN, I TOOK THE BATTERY OUT!!!! I left the collar on her neck, and that was all she needed to remind her not to go crazy barking. BEAT ME WITH A BOARD PEOPLE....STRAP ME TO A TREE AND BEAT ME WITH A WHIP!!! I DID WHAT I HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT LITTLE DOG WITH ME.....oh, by the way, I did get rid of the ex-husband eventually...the little dog stayed, the ex was kicked to the curb, and my son and i and the little dog were very happy.....she just wore that collar with the battery out, for the rest of her life and she was fine! She never did get over men and her haterd/fear of them!
Yorkiemom1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 12:12 PM   #6
Yorkie Yakker
 
motherof3yorkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LA, USA
Posts: 53
Cry

Please dont give her away!!! i know there are somethings we try to live with and there are times when our family is almost at wits end with our decisions, but she is only spoiled, and trying to protect her family.. i have a barker also.. he barks at ppl passing by, othe cats, dogs, it someone pulls in the driveway, or walks in my yard.. if my kids drop something or the alarm clock rings he barks, but he is very harmless.. yes he does get attention from strangers, but he will accept it only, and only, if he feels u r not a threat..otherwise he will continue barking till i say STOP.. idk wut ur baby reasons are, but im sure its only to protect a family he calls his own..just work with him, wish u and ur family the best..
motherof3yorkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 12:53 PM   #7
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥
Donating Member
 
yorkietalkjilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: D/FW, Texas
Posts: 22,140
Default

Perhaps you should consider rehoming her to someone who will love her unconditionally and not complain about her illnesses, costs and take the time to train her properly when and how much to bark, how to behave at the door and around people. It sounds like maybe you have already broken faith with her and she has become a burden. I have very carefully read and re-read your post since you placed it, noting your tone and use of words particularly and they just don't sound like a person who is 110% committed to this dog. And that's what dog stewardship is - it is total and permanent commitment to them whatever comes. It is paying whatever it may take to keep them healthy. It is either taking the time to learn positive and loving behavioral modification techniques and implement them on a daily basis or learning to live with the behavior. If things have happened in your family and situation and you no longer feel you can keep that sort of relationship with her, despite how you and your oldest will miss her, she may be happier in another home through the rescue group here. I am sure there is a single woman or couple out there who would love to take this little girl. It is just the general mood of your post and that title of the post that seems to me at least to probably represent an already likely broken relationship. And this happens sometimes.

But if that is not the case and you are willing to do whatever it takes to keep her and can afford to treat her medical problems, start with studying and learning and applying daily scheduled training times for "behavioral modification" - just you and the dog. You will have to keep your family out of the picture during the early sessions. Keep the sessions loving, patient, positive, regular morning and night and short. Lots of praise and love when she does the right things. In no time at all, she will begin to learn that behaving is fun - and further, she will begin to learn through just doing it over and over during the training and reward, that doing what you say is automatic. That is the wonderful thing of behavioral modification training - they learn, kind of like Pavlov's dogs - to just automatically always respond to your direction. It is wonderfully rewarding and fun fun fun for your dog. And you will be so proud of her when she doesn't jump up on visitors or dart out the door or bark all night. You will begin to view her in a totally different light and see that it was not knowing her role in the house - that of follower to you the leader - that made her unruly. And you will be happy with her again! Dogs that think they have to sort of run things are often not very happy or settled but you taking the lead by modifying her behavior through regular and fun training, showing her true leadership along with infinite patience all the while, will help her beyond measure. But, oh, it takes learning properly how to do it right so buy some books on the subject, Google it and read, read, read. You will feel empowered and positive and realize that if you commit, you can fix this. The choice is really yours to make.
__________________
Jeanie and Tibbe
One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

Last edited by yorkietalkjilly; 03-23-2012 at 12:56 PM.
yorkietalkjilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:27 PM   #8
Yorkie mom of 4
Donating YT Member
 
Lovetodream88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LaPlata, Md
Posts: 23,247
Default

I would suggest doing allergy testing were they send the blood away and do testing on it. You cannot blame her for having allergies its not her fault would you blame your child? She needs training either you need to do it or hire someone to do it. You need to teach her sit and stay and when the door is open tell her to sit and stay and you will have to work at it a lot. I cant really give you advise about the barking but there are some great people here who can. Most dogs would prefer getting a little less attention then going away and never seeing there family again but walks are great for the whole family. There is also so many dogs in shelters that a dog with allergy's is not going to be someones first pick and she could end up being put to sleep and that's something you really need to think about.
__________________
Taylor
My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie
Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!
Lovetodream88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:42 PM   #9
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
pokche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gatineau
Posts: 240
Default

thank you all and yorkietalkjilly...
I truly know she is a smart girl. All her behavioural problems were cause by us... mostly by me. Having three kids gives me less time for her unfortunately. But I still walk everyday with her and my boys play with her. She is not an unhappy dog
I have talked to my vet about her allergies... He said that allergy test are most of the time not conclusive and the injections works 25% of the time. He did not recommend it for Bikini because she is allergic to many things! Maybe even human dander. We tried all kind of avenues without success unfortunately. I do provide her with all she needs... there is no questioning! But 90$ a month is a lifetime commitment... with three kids it's a lot in our monthly budget. Prednisolone is 18$ every three months. I spend more on her food and grooming.

If I came here, its for advice to try and make our lives easier. We all want to keep her that is for sure... It's just hard for me right now to give myself 100% to her.
I started reading and I love hearing people's advises. Please continue with ideas and opinions.
My husband thought of the citronella collar or the vibration one... Any thoughts?
__________________
pokche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:50 PM   #10
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
dands's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Temecula
Posts: 181
Default

I highly recommend getting some books and videos by Ceaser Millan for the behavioral issues. You can find them on amazon. His resources helped us a lot with our Yorkie. When he was a puppy, we were at the brink of not being able to handle him, but now we've got him to a place where he's a pleasure to live with most of the time.

He's still not great with people, but as far as living with us and the barking situation, he's great.
dands is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:50 PM   #11
Between♥Suspensions
Donating Member
 
concretegurl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vaissades
Posts: 7,979
Default

I've come to the realization we cannot always talk people into keeping their dogs and it is not always in the best interest of the dog to be kept by some people.

People need to think a lot harder before getting a pet in the first place.

Please if you do rehome her do so with a reputable rescue group.
__________________
Shan & 8 kids now!


concretegurl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:50 PM   #12
Donating YT 3000 Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 7,652
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokche View Post
thank you all and yorkietalkjilly...
I truly know she is a smart girl. All her behavioural problems were cause by us... mostly by me. Having three kids gives me less time for her unfortunately. But I still walk everyday with her and my boys play with her. She is not an unhappy dog
I have talked to my vet about her allergies... He said that allergy test are most of the time not conclusive and the injections works 25% of the time. He did not recommend it for Bikini because she is allergic to many things! Maybe even human dander. We tried all kind of avenues without success unfortunately. I do provide her with all she needs... there is no questioning! But 90$ a month is a lifetime commitment... with three kids it's a lot in our monthly budget. Prednisolone is 18$ every three months. I spend more on her food and grooming.

If I came here, its for advice to try and make our lives easier. We all want to keep her that is for sure... It's just hard for me right now to give myself 100% to her.
I started reading and I love hearing people's advises. Please continue with ideas and opinions.
My husband thought of the citronella collar or the vibration one... Any thoughts?
http://www.varlallergy.com/17.html
Again, please talk to your vet about VARL. My Mini was so allergy ridden and suffering we thought we might have to put her down. Mini's highest allergen trigger is HUMAN DANDER and she sleeps with us, and licks my husbands face for hours. This stuff is working. Varl is not like other injections at all. I'm not guaranteeing it will work for every dog but the percentage of success is muchhhhh higher, i believe it is 80% and I will check that out, but I know its not 25%. Goo will not work with human dander, but it will probably help with the everyday environmental triggers she certainly has.
__________________
The Above advice/comments/reviews are my personal opinions based on my own experience/education/investigation and research and you can take them any way you want to......Or NOT!!!

Last edited by lynzy420; 03-23-2012 at 01:53 PM.
lynzy420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:51 PM   #13
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
pokche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gatineau
Posts: 240
Default

I did not want to pass the message as very very negative, I am sorry.
Of course it is not her fault she has allergies... I know that.
All I wanted is support and suggestions!
She does sit, stay, lay down, turn, come here. But when there are other humans her level of excitement goes from 1 to 10 in a second... And she does not like high energy dogs such as puppies.
__________________
pokche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:51 PM   #14
Yorkie mom of 4
Donating YT Member
 
Lovetodream88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LaPlata, Md
Posts: 23,247
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokche View Post
thank you all and yorkietalkjilly...
I truly know she is a smart girl. All her behavioural problems were cause by us... mostly by me. Having three kids gives me less time for her unfortunately. But I still walk everyday with her and my boys play with her. She is not an unhappy dog
I have talked to my vet about her allergies... He said that allergy test are most of the time not conclusive and the injections works 25% of the time. He did not recommend it for Bikini because she is allergic to many things! Maybe even human dander. We tried all kind of avenues without success unfortunately. I do provide her with all she needs... there is no questioning! But 90$ a month is a lifetime commitment... with three kids it's a lot in our monthly budget. Prednisolone is 18$ every three months. I spend more on her food and grooming.

If I came here, its for advice to try and make our lives easier. We all want to keep her that is for sure... It's just hard for me right now to give myself 100% to her.
I started reading and I love hearing people's advises. Please continue with ideas and opinions.
My husband thought of the citronella collar or the vibration one... Any thoughts?
The varl is a lot different then ordinary allergy testing and it is really something I think you should look into.
__________________
Taylor
My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie
Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!
Lovetodream88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 01:51 PM   #15
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
dands's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Temecula
Posts: 181
Default

Regarding food, have you tried her on Raw? Our dog doesn't have allergies but since we out him on primal raw dog food, his coat is much better and his poop is very healthy. I wonder if it might help with your dog's allergies.
dands is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




Google
 

SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167