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Lynda50001 · 11-09-2011, 06:32 AM

Jazzy is a five month old Yorkie that I adopted five days ago. I have a huge concern about this pup. She does not seem to be able to control her bladder. This is not a normal house training issue. She pees any time she gets the least bit excited even when she has just been outside.

I am aware that 1) She is new to our home. and 2) She was spayed about 3 weeks ago. Even though I already love her so much, I cannot keep her if she pees all over the place.. My husband is already wanting to call and have them pick her up. Has anyone had a pup that had (what I hope is) a temporary incontinence problem? Can a vet tell by an exam whether her bladder was damaged?

TxVicki · 11-09-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynda50001

Jazzy is a five month old Yorkie that I adopted five days ago. I have a huge concern about this pup. She does not seem to be able to control her bladder. This is not a normal house training issue. She pees any time she gets the least bit excited even when she has just been outside.

I am aware that 1) She is new to our home. and 2) She was spayed about 3 weeks ago. Even though I already love her so much, I cannot keep her if she pees all over the place.. My husband is already wanting to call and have them pick her up. Has anyone had a pup that had (what I hope is) a temporary incontinence problem? Can a vet tell by an exam whether her bladder was damaged?

I would take her to the Vet and have her checked to see if she may have an UTI.

Kaos · 11-09-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TxVicki

I would take her to the Vet and have her checked to see if she may have an UTI.

And maybe you could pick up some puppy diapers until the problem is figured out, to relax the husband.

occy · 11-09-2011, 09:58 AM

I agree with Kaos, definitely warrants a trip to the vets and those puppy diapers are just great. Although I haven't used them on a puppy, I did have to revert to them with my15 year old Angus and they were a god send.

addevo · 11-09-2011, 10:13 AM

Read up on "submissive unrination" - this may be what she is doing. Especially since she is a rescue and is new to your environment.

It that is what it is, take heart. She will likely grow out of it. But you must be careful how you deal with her. If she is doing it out of submission, scolding her will only make it worse.

One of our dogs did it alot when he was a baby, there were waterworks any time he got excited or happy to see someone. Now, the only time is when he sees the little girl next door. He absolutely ADORES her, and loses control any time he hears her voice.

Lynda50001 · 11-09-2011, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. I will take her to the vet and I will get her
some diapers, too.

gemy · 11-09-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynda50001

Thanks for the suggestions. I will take her to the vet and I will get her
some diapers, too.

Good idea. Also there is a possibility it is spay incontenience, the vet should be able to guide you here. Have you asked the previous owners if they noticed the peeing before spaying, or it came on after spaying?

If spay incontience there are meds that can help with this.

ArmaniMan · 11-09-2011, 11:40 AM

This pup needs to see a vet. There are many things that could cause this and it may be temporary or permanent. Coming from someone whose puppy came home incontinent, I can't imagine getting rid of a dog for this reason .

Lynda50001 · 11-09-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gemy

Good idea. Also there is a possibility it is spay incontenience, the vet should be able to guide you here. Have you asked the previous owners if they noticed the peeing before spaying, or it came on after spaying?

If spay incontience there are meds that can help with this.

I sent the foster mom an email but haven't heard back yet.

Lynda50001 · 11-09-2011, 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=addevo;3721671]Read up on "submissive unrination" - this may be what she is doing. Especially since she is a rescue and is new to your environment.

It that is what it is, take heart. She will likely grow out of it. But you must be careful how you deal with her. If she is doing it out of submission, scolding her will only make it worse....

Excellent suggestion. Thank you. I did look it up and in doing so, saw
"excitement urination" which, in Jazzy's case, may be more likely. She
does not take a submissive posture but does urinate when she is approached and if I start to pick her up. There were some good ideas about how to handle the excitement urination issue. First, she is going to vet to rule out other issues.

myteddybear · 11-09-2011, 12:30 PM

I have avoided posting here because I didn't want to say something that sounded rude. I will try my best to make this sound right and not rude.

I really do understand the frustration when a dog piddles all over when excited BUT I cannot ever imagine adopting a dog who has already been rehomed (especially at such a young age) and may have likely already had not such a great life. Taking on that responsibility of the lifetime commitment and being someone who that baby depends on and then even think of giving up only 5 days in for ANY reason. There are ways to deal with it. If you are his second home already at the age of 5 months and you then rehome him due to this problem to someone else who won't keep him for the same reason then eventually he will land in the hands of someone that will abuse him for it or send him to a shelter where he will likely be put to sleep.

Please please do all you can to either fix it or learn how to deal with it, be it diapers or whatever it needs to be. This baby doesn't do this on purpose or have any control over it and deserves to be secure in his home life.

My little girl Rosie used to do it quite a bit and now at almost 2 she is much much better with it. We have learned that if she is secure and happy in her surroundings she is less likely to do it now and if we think it is a time she may do it we learned not to reach down and try to pick her up or pet her until she is more settled and she now has it much better under control.

Hang in there and help him work through it.

Lynda50001 · 11-09-2011, 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=myteddybear;3721879]I have avoided posting here because I didn't want to say something that sounded rude. I will try my best to make this sound right and not rude. ...

You don't sound rude at all, just passionate. When it comes right down to it, I cannot imagine us sending her back. She is precious and we love her.
My husband is speaking out of frustration and fear. Fear because we adopted a dog that had a sporadic incontinence problem and kept her for 17 years, until she died at age 20. We could never figure out when and why she peed. She would go for days and not do it, then we could find dried pee on the hardwood floor in the dining room. Over the space of years, our floors were ruined. I don't know whether they had diapers then but if so, I was not aware. The vet said that she may have been spayed too young. She also was probably traumatized from the abuse she had suffered before we got her. We are retired and on a fixed income. The possibility of ruined flooring, carpets and rugs, that we can no longer afford to replace, is daunting. However, I know we will do everything in our power to work through it. The first step is research and I am so glad that I found this site and can get a good variety of advice.
Thank you for advocating for her.

myteddybear · 11-09-2011, 01:13 PM

I am so glad you didn't take it the wrong way! I did think you sounded like a good person with the right motives and didn't want to come off rude. I do think your new baby will settle and become more confident and this little problem can be a thing of the past.

Oops, sorry for caller her a him all through my post!

I'm glad you found this place too and I look forward to seeing you around lots and getting to know your little one!

boopster · 11-09-2011, 01:54 PM

I agree with others -- first make sure this is not a medical problem. If it is not, then you can work on changing some behaviors - yours and the dog's. My last dog was a submissive wetter and an excitement wetter - if she got a little too happy, oops! We learned to greet Bungee on the concrete back porch before entering the house -- a little hosing off and no harm was done. We also learned the signs of her getting overly excited or submissive and changed OUR behavior to avoid pushing her over the edge. We also praised a great deal for going in the "correct" place and didn't give any feedback for mistakes. Dogs that need lots of attention, even "bad" attention, will learn to do whatever it takes to get it. When we started ignoring Bungee's for a short time after an error and just quietly cleaning it up, she pretty quickly learned where not to go.

But I can't emphasize enough, first make sure it's not a medical problem. No amount of training and discipline are going to fix a medical condition, and delaying treatment could make it much worse.

manolos mom · 11-09-2011, 01:55 PM

Hello and welcome to YT! I agree with everyone that you should take her to the vet asap. Also, why dont you order some doggie diapers and pee pads. We have a couple of people here that make them, Cathy for one would help you....Washable Dog Diapers by T. Bumpkins & Co. and Doggie Pee Pads The best way I have found to get them to use pee pads is to wipe up some of their urine with the pee pad first and place it where it is accessible for her. Make sure you let her smell. This has always helped. Good Luck and please keep us informed. By the way, whats her name? Send us some pictures of your new baby....

11-09-2011, 06:32 AM	#1
Lynda50001 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 24	Temporary Incontinence? Help! Jazzy is a five month old Yorkie that I adopted five days ago. I have a huge concern about this pup. She does not seem to be able to control her bladder. This is not a normal house training issue. She pees any time she gets the least bit excited even when she has just been outside. I am aware that 1) She is new to our home. and 2) She was spayed about 3 weeks ago. Even though I already love her so much, I cannot keep her if she pees all over the place.. My husband is already wanting to call and have them pick her up. Has anyone had a pup that had (what I hope is) a temporary incontinence problem? Can a vet tell by an exam whether her bladder was damaged?

11-09-2011, 11:40 AM	#8
ArmaniMan I ♥ Armani & Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 3,895	This pup needs to see a vet. There are many things that could cause this and it may be temporary or permanent. Coming from someone whose puppy came home incontinent, I can't imagine getting rid of a dog for this reason . __________________ Armani & Chloe

11-09-2011, 12:30 PM	#11
myteddybear Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cambridgeshire, England Posts: 1,208	I have avoided posting here because I didn't want to say something that sounded rude. I will try my best to make this sound right and not rude. I really do understand the frustration when a dog piddles all over when excited BUT I cannot ever imagine adopting a dog who has already been rehomed (especially at such a young age) and may have likely already had not such a great life. Taking on that responsibility of the lifetime commitment and being someone who that baby depends on and then even think of giving up only 5 days in for ANY reason. There are ways to deal with it. If you are his second home already at the age of 5 months and you then rehome him due to this problem to someone else who won't keep him for the same reason then eventually he will land in the hands of someone that will abuse him for it or send him to a shelter where he will likely be put to sleep. Please please do all you can to either fix it or learn how to deal with it, be it diapers or whatever it needs to be. This baby doesn't do this on purpose or have any control over it and deserves to be secure in his home life. My little girl Rosie used to do it quite a bit and now at almost 2 she is much much better with it. We have learned that if she is secure and happy in her surroundings she is less likely to do it now and if we think it is a time she may do it we learned not to reach down and try to pick her up or pet her until she is more settled and she now has it much better under control. Hang in there and help him work through it. __________________ Please help save Lennox! http://www.savelennox.co.uk/ Let your voice be heard so Lennox can go home

11-09-2011, 01:13 PM	#13
myteddybear Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cambridgeshire, England Posts: 1,208	I am so glad you didn't take it the wrong way! I did think you sounded like a good person with the right motives and didn't want to come off rude. I do think your new baby will settle and become more confident and this little problem can be a thing of the past. Oops, sorry for caller her a him all through my post! I'm glad you found this place too and I look forward to seeing you around lots and getting to know your little one! __________________ Please help save Lennox! http://www.savelennox.co.uk/ Let your voice be heard so Lennox can go home

11-09-2011, 01:55 PM	#15
manolos mom Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,982	Hello and welcome to YT! I agree with everyone that you should take her to the vet asap. Also, why dont you order some doggie diapers and pee pads. We have a couple of people here that make them, Cathy for one would help you....Washable Dog Diapers by T. Bumpkins & Co. and Doggie Pee Pads The best way I have found to get them to use pee pads is to wipe up some of their urine with the pee pad first and place it where it is accessible for her. Make sure you let her smell. This has always helped. Good Luck and please keep us informed. By the way, whats her name? Send us some pictures of your new baby.... __________________ Ethical Breeders follow and support http://www.ytca.org/

11-09-2011, 09:58 AM	#4
occy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Vancouver Island, BC Posts: 158	I agree with Kaos, definitely warrants a trip to the vets and those puppy diapers are just great. Although I haven't used them on a puppy, I did have to revert to them with my15 year old Angus and they were a god send.

11-09-2011, 10:13 AM	#5
addevo Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Alexandria, VA, USA (near Washington, DC) Posts: 312	Read up on "submissive unrination" - this may be what she is doing. Especially since she is a rescue and is new to your environment. It that is what it is, take heart. She will likely grow out of it. But you must be careful how you deal with her. If she is doing it out of submission, scolding her will only make it worse. One of our dogs did it alot when he was a baby, there were waterworks any time he got excited or happy to see someone. Now, the only time is when he sees the little girl next door. He absolutely ADORES her, and loses control any time he hears her voice.

11-09-2011, 10:15 AM	#6
Lynda50001 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 24	Thanks for the suggestions. I will take her to the vet and I will get her some diapers, too.

11-09-2011, 11:52 AM	#10
Lynda50001 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 24	[QUOTE=addevo;3721671]Read up on "submissive unrination" - this may be what she is doing. Especially since she is a rescue and is new to your environment. It that is what it is, take heart. She will likely grow out of it. But you must be careful how you deal with her. If she is doing it out of submission, scolding her will only make it worse.... Excellent suggestion. Thank you. I did look it up and in doing so, saw "excitement urination" which, in Jazzy's case, may be more likely. She does not take a submissive posture but does urinate when she is approached and if I start to pick her up. There were some good ideas about how to handle the excitement urination issue. First, she is going to vet to rule out other issues.

11-09-2011, 12:56 PM	#12
Lynda50001 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 24	[QUOTE=myteddybear;3721879]I have avoided posting here because I didn't want to say something that sounded rude. I will try my best to make this sound right and not rude. ... You don't sound rude at all, just passionate. When it comes right down to it, I cannot imagine us sending her back. She is precious and we love her. My husband is speaking out of frustration and fear. Fear because we adopted a dog that had a sporadic incontinence problem and kept her for 17 years, until she died at age 20. We could never figure out when and why she peed. She would go for days and not do it, then we could find dried pee on the hardwood floor in the dining room. Over the space of years, our floors were ruined. I don't know whether they had diapers then but if so, I was not aware. The vet said that she may have been spayed too young. She also was probably traumatized from the abuse she had suffered before we got her. We are retired and on a fixed income. The possibility of ruined flooring, carpets and rugs, that we can no longer afford to replace, is daunting. However, I know we will do everything in our power to work through it. The first step is research and I am so glad that I found this site and can get a good variety of advice. Thank you for advocating for her.

11-09-2011, 01:54 PM	#14
boopster Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 1,643 Blog Entries: 1	I agree with others -- first make sure this is not a medical problem. If it is not, then you can work on changing some behaviors - yours and the dog's. My last dog was a submissive wetter and an excitement wetter - if she got a little too happy, oops! We learned to greet Bungee on the concrete back porch before entering the house -- a little hosing off and no harm was done. We also learned the signs of her getting overly excited or submissive and changed OUR behavior to avoid pushing her over the edge. We also praised a great deal for going in the "correct" place and didn't give any feedback for mistakes. Dogs that need lots of attention, even "bad" attention, will learn to do whatever it takes to get it. When we started ignoring Bungee's for a short time after an error and just quietly cleaning it up, she pretty quickly learned where not to go. But I can't emphasize enough, first make sure it's not a medical problem. No amount of training and discipline are going to fix a medical condition, and delaying treatment could make it much worse.