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03-10-2015, 09:59 AM | #391 | |
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03-10-2015, 10:04 AM | #392 | |
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Pyometra and mammary tumors are definitely to be considered, but I have a question....what about with larger breeds that have issues with anesthesia? Would spaying them be worth it? This is one of the reasons why our bully hasn't been fixed yet. As for the ceviche...do u want plantains with that? I also make a mean mangorita | |
03-10-2015, 10:07 AM | #393 | |
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Here is a link to a PDF study that I posted much earlier in this thread. Tables 2 and 3 have cost/benefit analysis of spaying and neutering dogs. Enjoy! http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rootk001/gonadectomy.pdf Last edited by pstinard; 03-10-2015 at 10:08 AM. | |
03-10-2015, 10:12 AM | #394 | |
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03-10-2015, 10:12 AM | #395 | |
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Thanks Phil you are an angel. Gawd if only we had a World Health Cochrane like Institute to cull all the research done all over the world! Offer independent un-biased review of the research and do a I think it is called meta data analysis..!!
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03-10-2015, 10:14 AM | #396 | |
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I'm Jamaican with a Southern upbringing hun OF COURSE they're sweet and fried!. As for the rita it'd be virgin, too early for drinking so I got ya! Thanks for the info! Saving it to show the hubs! | |
03-10-2015, 10:19 AM | #397 | |
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| LOVE plantains but you all can have the ceviche.
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03-10-2015, 10:21 AM | #399 | |
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There is simply no good reason to leave a pet unspayed.
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03-10-2015, 10:24 AM | #400 | |
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You can have my share of the ceviche (if I have a share...lol) and just toss me a few extra slices of the plantains.
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03-10-2015, 10:33 AM | #401 |
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03-10-2015, 10:42 AM | #402 | |
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03-10-2015, 10:43 AM | #403 | |
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Then Taylor you have not been reading the research, for certain breeds of dogs, there are very serious risks associated with spaying and neutering at or even earlier than 6 months old. For the Yorkshire Terrier other than one or two studies pointing towards hypothyroidism as an increased risk in s+n males n females, and of course spay incontinence, and one tantalizing research paper that looks at the hormonal impact on proper maturation of ligamentous structures - like the ACL, for female Yorkies at this point in time most pet females IMO should be spayed for their overall health - the key is when? Can we wait a little for growth plate closure and ligamentous tissue maturation? Would that help in the incidence rate of LP and ACL tears, and is decidedly rampant throughout our breed, and as you know is very painfull and also expensive to treat? Would the relatively small increase in Mammary Tumours of which 50% are benign offset the potentiality of reducing LP and ACL tears? Interesting question is it not? At this early age say 1yr old or so - pyrometra is very very rare, so baring other research that might come out later, we just need to look at mammary increased cancer risk, and also avoiding urinary incontenience, and temperament changes, ACL tears medial luxating patellas as possible benefits to delaying spaying for a bit in time. The Swedish study did not offer us any elucidation because as opposed to North American studies the bulk of the participants were intact. And god only knows why they only looked at two health problems - that to me is an interesting detail... The decision you make as a pet owner I would like to see be well informed. Folks who are dedicated enough to slog through this huge thread, and read the research, are searching for informed answers. The more information we have, the more complex our decisions become, and they should be, when we talk about major surgery, and a major impact into a dogs life.
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03-10-2015, 10:51 AM | #404 | |
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For NOW it is proven that there is a risk of mammary tumors and pyometra .. and we all know that MOST pet owners are not equipped to deal with multiple unaltered pets. SO....my belief is the risk of those cancers far outweigh unknown/unproven benefits. Same for oopsie pregnancies. For the life of me, I don't understand how you can keep on saying this unless it just fits some agenda you have? It surely, in my opinion, is not what is best for the breed. In addition to horrible conditions they end up with, yorkies have been SO adversely affected by indiscriminate breeding.
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03-10-2015, 11:03 AM | #405 | |
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You do the tubal ligation as a stopgap measure to allow the hormones to course through particularly large breed dogs, then you do a full OVE, They are no-where near 100%. A very large percentage under that Phil. And what if the chance of hemangiosarcomas was increased 50% for this breed if you spayed? The number one leading cause of death for certain breeds??? And that chance is one in five dogs get it???? A deadly cancer as opposed to MT even if the MT's are cancerous? For the Yorkshire Terrier much is still needed to be known.
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