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Old 09-06-2011, 05:16 PM   #1
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I am still new to this site but I am not new to yorkies or dog owning. I have had many animals and only gave up 2 before (a chameleon and a guinea pig) for thier benifit. I would never have dreamed of even thinking of getting rid of one of my dogs, but my new puppy is pushing every button and now I wonder if I'm even cut out to have her. Sallie is very hyper and entergetic and wears out my older dog. I have been fighting a poo eating issue which just as it seems to get better, gets worse. The other day I went to work and she ate her poo then threw up and then had diarreah and then ate that. I can't watch her all day and I really can't afford to keep her in doggie day care everytime I have to work. She is hard to walk, barks constantly for no reason and is pretty much driving me crazy. I do love her and I try and exersize her and play with her but I have to work and I was hoping I could leave her home with my other dog to keep him company. She is already 7 months old and hasnt calmed down or stopped trying to eat things. I get so frustrated, I wonder if I should give her to someone who maybe has more time or other dogs who are are entergetic so she can play more. I'm just not sure I'm doing the right thing for her or me at this point.
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I can't advise you on your decision, but re the poop eating - the vet can give you something called 'Forbid' to sprinkle on her food and that might help with that issue. We had/have the same problem and using the 'Forbid' seems to have made our girl less interested in her poop. Not completely disinterested yet, but much better. The other day she pooped when I was out of the room she's confined in and she left it on the piddle pad so I'd see it and praise her. Our baby is 5 and 1/2 months old and she chews everything. The vet said to limit the things she has available to chew because she gets confused on what's ok and what's not ok. That may or may not be working Haven't had enough time to tell yet.

I can't help you with your decision but maybe if you can get a few of the behaviors under control that will help. Good luck.
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Well have been there and done that with a previous pup
Can't say what would be absolutely right for your pup, but the answer for me was obedience training. Made a major difference for us. You do have to realize at 7 months they do have abounding energy and curiosity and want to play with everything. Obedience does take some of your time and energy, but it give you quality time with your pup and puts you in charge (eventually). I would trying it if you want to make the investment in your pup. Go and talk to the obedience people - local club, Petsmart etc. and see what they tell you.
Hope this helps. Probably is not an easy answer to this problem. Sometimes it takes more than love.
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I am still new to this site but I am not new to yorkies or dog owning. I have had many animals and only gave up 2 before (a chameleon and a guinea pig) for thier benifit. I would never have dreamed of even thinking of getting rid of one of my dogs, but my new puppy is pushing every button and now I wonder if I'm even cut out to have her. Sallie is very hyper and entergetic and wears out my older dog. I have been fighting a poo eating issue which just as it seems to get better, gets worse. The other day I went to work and she ate her poo then threw up and then had diarreah and then ate that. I can't watch her all day and I really can't afford to keep her in doggie day care everytime I have to work. She is hard to walk, barks constantly for no reason and is pretty much driving me crazy. I do love her and I try and exersize her and play with her but I have to work and I was hoping I could leave her home with my other dog to keep him company. She is already 7 months old and hasnt calmed down or stopped trying to eat things. I get so frustrated, I wonder if I should give her to someone who maybe has more time or other dogs who are are entergetic so she can play more. I'm just not sure I'm doing the right thing for her or me at this point.
It sounds as though you're saying you got her simply to keep your other dog company?

She needs your time, she needs training, and she definitely needs lots of exercise. Puppies can be frustrating and require nearly constant supervision. When left to their own devices, bad things will happen. It is the same with children. Yorkies are terriers and do require lots of exercise and attention. I can't tell you the right thing to do, but it is clear that what you've been doing isn't working. By exercise, I don't mean walking a few blocks. Consider walking miles. Yorkies don't calm down by seven months. Some don't calm down by 1.5 - 2 yrs. It depends on their particular personality. Given the right environment most yorkies are pretty high energy dogs most of their lives.
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That all sounds very normal. She needs to be trained not to bark. Poop eating isn't going to kill her. She can be trained to walk properly. And she should not be let around your other dog without supervision if there are issues there. Sounds like this pup has way too much freedom. Crate or xpen when you can't watch her. Separate the dogs. No need to put any stress on the older dog when you aren't home to watch. If play gets too rough for the older one when you are home, the pup can be separated. When my pup really starts aggravating my older dog (or me for that matter), he gets crated. I just won't chase a wild pup for hours and I don't expect my older dog to constantly handle it. When it goes beyond play and she is frustrated, they are separated.

You can use a product for the poop eating. Worth a try. How about a water bottle for the barking?
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I am not trying to be mean but did someone give up on you when you were a bratty child or a hateful teen ager? Dogs like children do require time and energy, they are a commitment. Dogs require patience love and guidance and training! There are no easy answers here for any of the problems you are having but do not give up,trust me the rewards , are well worth it. Hugs
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Puppies are hard work and its your job to teach them everything. I dont have any advice but I think its very sad to get a puppy and then get rid of it. Most great things in life take hard work. How great a dog Callie is was worth all the nights of no sleep, getting up at all hours to take her potty, cleaning up the accidents, puppy class, and all the other things. Shes has this amazing love for me even if I forget to play our game of chase or fetch, or if I forget to order her bully sticks or if Im to depressed to even get out of bed she is still there to show an amazing love that only a dog can and all the work is worth that in my opinion.
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Sorry you are having these issues.
I know puppies are are a lot of work and need a lot of attention, training, and patience. As someone else said, the rewards are worth it.
I hope you don't give up on her.
Please keep us posted.
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Puppies are hard work and its your job to teach them everything. I dont have any advice but I think its very sad to get a puppy and then get rid of it. Most great things in life take hard work. How great a dog Callie is was worth all the nights of no sleep, getting up at all hours to take her potty, cleaning up the accidents, puppy class, and all the other things. Shes has this amazing love for me even if I forget to play our game of chase or fetch, or if I forget to order her bully sticks or if Im to depressed to even get out of bed she is still there to show an amazing love that only a dog can and all the work is worth that in my opinion.
This is a really nice post. Lovetodream88
IMO, Even with in a family, Sometimes our personalities clash, and we have to learn how to make each other happy.
I think most puppies crave interaction and attention and they mostly just need to be taught what to do. Puppies are not bad , they just don't know the rules.
Please be honest, ask yourself, What is it that feels over whelming ? Can you do something different ? Could you get a trainer to help you ? Do you have the time, desire and determination to try to fix the problems ?
I can not answer your question, "when is it time to call it quits ?" Only you can decide that. I hope some of our ideas will help you.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:24 PM   #10
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The thing you have to know is you are almost over the period where the pup is the most onry the puppy period. That being said I dont find it shameful if someone admits they didnt realize all they were getting into and they need to rehome or give to a rescue. They shouldnt be taking the dog to a shelter though they need to be responsible
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It sounds to me like you are tired and stressed out. An active puppy is not what you want to come home to after a long day at work and I'm sure a puppy with a high energy level will not benefit from being locked in a crate all day while you are gone. It is only going to make her even more hyper once you get home. Is she in a crate all day? That could have something to do with the poo eating. Dogs that are locked in with their waste sometimes try to get rid of it by eating it.
If having this pup is making your life even more stressful I would advise you to find a home for it where it will get the additional time and attention it needs and deserves. Hopefully with someone with Yorkie experience that is home during the day. I'm sure some will disagree but you need to do what is best for both of you. Maybe you could contact a Yorkie rescue group that will help you to place your pup in a good home. Don't feel guilty. Sometimes we make mistakes and the best thing to do is make it right.
After my other dog passed on I thought long and hard before getting another. I don't think I would have done it if I had to work outside the home. Everything takes twice as long to accomplish with a puppy that has no one there for a good part of the day. You work 8 hours or more and then there is the time it takes to commute and to stop to get things at the store and that pup is sitting home alone all that time. I hope you get things settled for both of you. I hope you find a peaceful solution soon.
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I felt this way about my Westie when he first came home. He was so different from our laid-back little maltese that had passed four years earlier.

I was concerned about the Westie breed by all the 'high activity' and 'high exercise levels' that I read. But, I let my son get one anyway! All the descriptions were true. Ringo was stubborn, he would not do anything we said; he hid under the deck for hours; he dug up my yard . . sometimes I didn't really like him much and vice versa, I think.

It took some time and effort to bond with Ringo. One thing that really helped us was taking agility classes. Now, I'm not necessarily recommending this for you - but we had a great trainer who recognized right away that Ringo was the leader of our pack. Once we got used to working together in a fun way - us giving commands and Ringo following them - he was like a whole different dog. We actually had fun together and enjoyed being together. Plus, he was getting a lot more EXERCISE.

I quickly learned that Ringo needs, at the bare minimum, a mile walk per day. This helps drain some of his crazy energy and, he is just easier to live with.

Your puppy will eventually calm down. The poop eating may stop. (Though Lucy still likes goose poop). I would try getting her into puppy classes where you can do some basic obedience together and have some fun. I would try walking both dogs together to improve their bond.

Bottom line - if you see her as just another source of stress - then that bond between you two is not going to form. You have to start actively working with her to address some of your issues.

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If you're still looking to work with your dog, I do know they also sell tablets at Tractor Supply that will make poop have a bad taste to it so that they won't want to eat it anymore. We've experienced it as well, but the dog did eventually stop eating it on his own.
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Puppies are hard work and its your job to teach them everything. I dont have any advice but I think its very sad to get a puppy and then get rid of it. Most great things in life take hard work. How great a dog Callie is was worth all the nights of no sleep, getting up at all hours to take her potty, cleaning up the accidents, puppy class, and all the other things. Shes has this amazing love for me even if I forget to play our game of chase or fetch, or if I forget to order her bully sticks or if Im to depressed to even get out of bed she is still there to show an amazing love that only a dog can and all the work is worth that in my opinion.
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Just reading the ops first post and nothing else.

Man sounds like you have one wired for sound and then some.
Nope sorry eating own poop is not normal. Unless it a female cleaning up after her litter.

What about a vet with behaviour to talk with and see if you van get some help.
What about through a dogs ears music to calm.
What about protocol for relaxation to help with focus.
Sounds to me like anxiety to me and she needs help.
If you are not up to it yes get her a new home but be very honest with new home about her problems. She may need stay at home parents and be an only fur kid. Rescue also be a good choice.
But go see some one with a under level education not just a dog trainer..this is behavior not a training concern.

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