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08-16-2011, 04:16 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado
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| Heartbroken...my Yorkie is gone Today is a sad day. It's a long story, but the synopsis is I no longer have my furbaby Lily. My sister and I originally got Lily from our friend Kay. Lily was Kay's daughter's dog. But her daughter was stationed in Hawaii and shipped her home to Kay. Somehow, and I'm not sure on the details, the breeder started keeping Lily since Kay couldn't keep her all the time (She already has two dogs of her own). However, the breeder would often give Lily back to Kay saying she needed a break and couldn't take anymore. Then a week later, she'd call and ask to take Lily back. (Why our friend allowed this is beyond me. All I know is that Kay is a very generous, kind woman who has a hard time saying "no" to people.) Or, she would give Lily back so she could go out of state to visit family. (I get the impression that there wasn't any "asking" if Kay would watch Lily, so much as "Hey, I'm coming by with Lily.) Earlier this year, breeder/keeper said she was going to Texas and dropped Lily off with Kay. Kay was scheduled to go to Hawaii to see her daughter for a month. So my sister and I volunteered to keep Lily. Well, after two months had gone by, the breeder never called Kay for Lily. Kay offered to let us keep Lily, saying it was good she was in a stable environment where she wasn't constantly being passed back and forth. She actually told breeder this a month ago. Four months have passed and today we got the worst phone call ever: breeder called and wanted Lily back. Not only that, but she had filed theft charges against Kay. She also called my sister and left a horrible, threatening message, then had a friend of her's call and leave a message telling us we had 24 hours to return Lily to her rightful owner, and that the breeder was an excellent person who had never neglected or hurt any animal. (Why did she even feel the need to defend her?!) The police officer said we had to give her back, even though Kay purchased her 6 years ago and has paper work. The officer said the woman was psychotic (which she is; she has huge issues I recently discovered) and if Kay went to court she would win Lily easily. But the honest, hard reality is we can't afford to take this woman to court, even though I would love to. And the police are not going to do anything to return Lily to her real owner. They said that next time Kay needs to have everything in writing. I'm so angry about this! Why does a crazy woman have to win? It's unjust. Our hearts are broken because we loved our little Lily. She was really dear to my heart. I'm single and don't have any family in the state. I loved coming home to her and playing and snuggling with her. I feel so helpless because there is nothing I can do about the situation. With that said, would anyone know where we could get a lovely Yorkie for a decent price? I don't mean I want a puppy mill York, but my sister and I can't afford $500+ for a puppy. We have looked at rescue Yorkies, but the ones in our area have had little contact with humans and will take more time per day than we can currently offer. If you know of good Yorkie who needs a loving home in the state of Colorado, please send me a PM. We would love a little female Yorkie to spend our evenings with again. |
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08-16-2011, 05:15 PM | #2 |
My furkids Donating Member | How horrible!!! someone posted on her a while ago that there is a need for foster homes for yorkies....I think there may be a sticky for it. you could check with her to see if you could maybe foster a yorkie....maybe you could end up adopting the pup...
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08-16-2011, 05:44 PM | #3 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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| If Kay's daughter or Kay herself purchased the dog and has papers to prove it, why on earth are the police making the dog be returned to the breeder? Can you get Kay to show the paperwork to the police? This is just wrong. If the police know the breeder is "psychotic" why would they cooperate with her? |
08-16-2011, 05:59 PM | #4 | |
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I think the police won't do anything because they're being lazy. She's the type that would probably do some pretty horrible things if she didn't get her way (slash tires, bust windows, etc.). It's probably easier for them to just let her have her way than deal with her. That, to me, is allowing her to be the bully. I found out local court would only cost $50, but Kay isn't sure it's worth it. She doesn't have the fight in her. I would, but since I'm not the legal owner, I wouldn't even have a case. The whole thing really upset and disturbed Kay and she's really heartbroken. But she's not the type to legally pursue people. It's a horrible situation. But I'm kind of out of options. I just trust that Lily will be safe and sound, and hopefully someday find a new Yorkie to love. | |
08-16-2011, 06:43 PM | #5 |
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| This is so sad. Sending prayers and hugs. |
08-16-2011, 06:48 PM | #6 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA
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| I don't understand either. If she has the papers then she can prove ownership. Police don't determine the laws, only the courts do, so I would not cow-tow to that. Don't know the worth of the Yorkie, but maybe small claims court where you don't need an atty. could be a solution. Can the breeder/keeper prove ownership?
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08-16-2011, 07:36 PM | #7 |
YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Reading, PA, USA
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| I would fight this. First of all the ownership of the dog is decided in civil court, not criminal, so the police have no say in it. Second, the dog is OWNED by the person that bought her, therefor Kay. A simple way to fix this is to have the paperwork transferred into your name. Third IF she DID go to take you to court, it would at best be small claims court, and you defend yourself. She is not going to win with either Kay saying that you are caring for the dog for her, because of the back and forth of the breeder, OR with the paperwork of the dog being transferred into your name. She GOT her value of the dog when she sold the dog and NO LONGER has any legal rights to the dog. Moreover, while this is a civil matter, I will deny her the dog, and tell her that if she contacts you again, you'll file charges of harassment on her and her friends that she sends against you. Because while the dog issue might be a civil matter, HARASSMENT is a CRIMINAL matter. Last of all, you can always deny this is the dog she bred and say you got a different one. Good luck to you, no matter what you decide. |
08-16-2011, 07:44 PM | #8 | |
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I am very sorry to the OP and I can imagine how heartbreaking and frustrating this must be. I don't understand why the dog was being shuffled back and forth between the breeder and your friend. Very strange.
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08-16-2011, 07:47 PM | #9 | |
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08-16-2011, 08:22 PM | #10 | |
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08-17-2011, 05:00 AM | #11 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado
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| I so wish I had been able to tell you all of this before I gave Lily back last night. Had I known it was a civil matter, as well as the contract, etc., I would have put more of a fight and told Kay as well. The woman truly is mentally unstable. I know she will take good care of Lily, but she has left a wake of horrible experiences towards everyone in our small community. She even signed over custody for her own son to the police at one time. I only learned of all of this yesterday after giving Lily back to her. Having already given her back, and knowing Kay (the owner) isn't going to pursue anything more at this point, I don't think there's anything more I can do since I'm not the legal owner, especially now that we've given her back. I'm beyond grief over her loss. Thank you all for your support. I hope someday soon I'll find another Yorkie. It won't take the place of Lily, but hopefully it will help me and my sister transition and move forward. Last edited by MissFlora; 08-17-2011 at 05:04 AM. |
08-17-2011, 09:10 AM | #12 |
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| If you feel you cannot do anything else, and still want to purchase a yorkie, why not talk to the lady and offer to buy Lily back from her for whatever you feel comfortable paying? I know this sort of plays right into her hands, but maybe she would see the opportunity to make a few dollars quick and sell her to you. She may already plan on selling Lily and that's why she went through all this to get her back. It may be worth a shot anyway. Good luck on whatever you decide to do. |
08-17-2011, 09:46 AM | #13 | |
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08-17-2011, 09:55 AM | #14 |
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| this is so sad, i don't think I would have given Lily back after all this time. This is not fair to you or Lily. I think offering her money is a good idea also. She might just call and want you to take her back, like she is playing a game. My prayers are with you.
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08-17-2011, 09:58 AM | #15 | |
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But I am wondering, is Lily spayed? I'm worried that the reason the crazy lady suddenly wanted Lily back is because she wants to breed her. | |
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