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01-10-2011, 06:52 PM | #1 |
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| Breeding different size yorkies??? Help!!! i have a male yorkie who is 9lbs he is 1yr now, he looks like a toy poodle in size. i just got a female yorkie who is concidered a teacup, she is about 3lbs and is 5months. i would like to breed these two when their ready ofcourse... but im just wondering is size matters... im not too concerened about csections bc i kno i can pay a vet.... im just wondering if the male can rupture the female, is that possible? does anyone kno anythin about the size being a problem? concidering that she is much much smaller.. |
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01-10-2011, 07:02 PM | #2 |
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| you should do a lot more research on breeding and should be concerned with a lot more if you are talking standards your male is to big for breeding and your female doesnt sound like she will be big enough for breeding..more breeders dont recommend breeding a female under 5lbs and even that is tiny in my opinion no such thing as a teacup but there is such a thing as "runt" and "smaller"..teacup is a gimmick good luck..there are LOTS of knowledgeable information on this site..and try meeting reputable breeders/mentors to learn from..there is a lot to learn c-sections can happen to small or larger but can very hard on a smaller body..plus the smaller bodies run into more problems that you need to be educated on to look for...all the money in the world cant save your girl if something goes horribly wrong.. i doubt he would rupture her..but i dont think they are a matched pair in breeding terms Last edited by tammy8833; 01-10-2011 at 07:04 PM. |
01-10-2011, 07:11 PM | #3 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Please read all the articles, called stickies; including one that is called so you want to be a breeder. You seem rather laissez faire about your girl having a C section. YOu state you have the money for that. well do you also realize you can lose your girl in this C section? And then are you ready to hand feed the pups if your girls' milk never comes in, or she refuses the litter, because she just had a C section? What pre breeding tests have you done to see if genetically speaking these two are good representatives of the breed. There is a whole lot more to breeding than bringing together two dogs Take your time, research everything here, and make an informed, well reasoned decision
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01-10-2011, 07:21 PM | #4 | ||
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The is no such thing as a teacup, all yorkies are considered to be in the toy size and this is not to exceed 7 pounds. Your male is too big to breed with any dog, and it could be dangerous to breed it with a girl that is so much smaller.
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01-10-2011, 07:31 PM | #5 |
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| There is more than size to consider when breeding. But, when considering size you must know both sides of each dog's pedigree backward and forward. Not only the dogs within the pedigree but, siblings too. What they have produced. Breeding a girl under 5 pounds for a girl is considered risky. Should she concieve a litter of more than 3, is there room enough for her to carry them to term. Hence the risk of losing the litter and possibly the female.. Your girl size will most assuredly result in a C-Section, but why would you knowingly put a female through such an ordeal, just because you have the money to take care of it. The health and welfare of your female should be your number one concern. I strongly suggest you begin to attend breeding and genetic classes, and do some extensive research before you consider breeding. There is some information in the YT Library...... Again, more to breeding than just putting two dogs together.
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01-10-2011, 07:58 PM | #6 | |
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01-10-2011, 07:58 PM | #7 |
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| In addition at 5 months of age your female is much too young to even consider breeding. One question I would like you to ask yourself, are you prepared to lose your female??????????
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01-10-2011, 08:00 PM | #8 |
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| Food for thought: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...t-breeder.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-answered.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...neutering.html Breeding really is not as easy as you might think. Would you know what to do in an emergency? Would you know when your female is in distress and needs to be seen by a vet for a c-section? Do you know what you need to test for in your dogs to make sure they are healthy and can produce healthy puppies? And no, a health check that we do yearly for our puppies is not enough. It is so much more complicated than most people think. At least if you want to do things right and make sure that all the dogs are safe. The more you take shortcuts the more it will show when you are in a high pressure moment, or when a pup you produced is sick from something that was in your dogs' genes.
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01-10-2011, 08:01 PM | #9 |
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| Right, what if she doesn't grow up to be a good size to breed? What if she has narrow hips? Would you really want to put her through that because you want puppies?
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01-10-2011, 08:32 PM | #10 |
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| Size isnt the only factor to consider when breeding but that male is too big to breed with that size female and really that female is too small to breed anyway unless you want to risk losing her
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01-10-2011, 08:54 PM | #11 |
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| Thanx to all for your information,and fast answers. I am aware that she is still young and not ready!! Im just wondering ofcourse bc i have never done this... im not gonna use her if she is not able to be used... and if she is goin to be at risk!!!! I love my dogs and im not gonna risk them for more puppies... again thats why i asked... I did think a dog of the same size or a bit bigger would be more resonable and i just wanted to have a more asured answered, to what i was already thinking... I will have to let time tell if she gets bigger. People in this country were im currently living, will just sell you watever and tell you that it will work just to get the money... they dont think about the dog. when i bought her, i still didnt belive it would get as big as they said she would, i mean she is only 3lbs and is 5months she will def. be smaller.... this bc i have a male already who def got bigger... now i ended up buying her bc i felt like i was rescuing her, she had a skin condition her legs and rear back were pealing and she smelled awful, she was covered in fleas and my vet said she had an allergic reaction due to the poor condition they kept her in... she had fleas for who knows how long... and developed a skin problem. we treated her with medication and a couple of vaccines and some antifungal shampoo and she is much much better and happier!!! Im not in any rush to have puppies and i was just concidering it for later on... i think it will be fun ofcourse with more research and that is why im asking, you have to start somewere! thanx to everyone for your support... |
01-10-2011, 09:11 PM | #12 | |
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I don't know if you've ever had kids yourself, but I hear it is not fun. The experience is rewarding to those that have kids, but fun is never a word they use for the birthing process. You're right, we all have to start somewhere. But why with this girl, who's had a rough start in life, and a boy that is bigger than standard? Do you know their lines? Do you know they can produce healthy babies? Your girl's background sounds bad and it would be a very big gamble if you leave her intact.
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01-10-2011, 09:31 PM | #13 |
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| Yes i was in the US and I understand what you are saying like i said i was wondering, was curious, never done it and i wanted to hear what people thought. I also said i wasnt in any rush and i was not gonna do it with her if she doesnt meet all requirements for breeding... and ofcourse if i did ever breed with another dog, i would first ask a vet. I trust vets more than people. And i do have children i have two and i had two csections and i would do it all over again its something life changin kids are blessings... and a joy to have, and YES CHILDREN ARE FUN. they also are alot of work... like life. one more thing: it was just a question out of curiosity.. people please relax, im not gonna kill my pets... you can tell bc im trying to get a bit of info from somewere. |
01-10-2011, 09:40 PM | #14 | |
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I'm glad your doing your research. So many people proceed into breeding like it's making popcorn or something.
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01-11-2011, 12:52 PM | #15 | |
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to the second bolded statement, many have expressed this particular pair would not be suitable for breeding. And yes you do have to start somewhere, why not start with a mentor who is closer to the top than you are? To properly learn anything, you need a mentor to show you, you need to get an apprentorship, basically. Let me ask you something, WHY do you want to breed? It's a simple question to ask, not so simple to answer.
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