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Old 12-01-2010, 08:48 AM   #1
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Hi, A little about me first. I had this yorkie 2 years ago. He was about 5 years old and spoiled rotten. I loved him soo very much and took him everywhere with me! But one night when we came home from the store, he jumped out of my car while unloading groceries, Leashed on a retractable leash, ran to sniff something and was tragically killed by a car. This had traumatized me for along time and I still get emotional thinking about it.

Fast forward 2 years, I got married to the man I love and we got a Blue Heeler puppy in June right before our wedding. The heeler puppy we named Jackie, just got spayed and will be starting obediance school in a week and is going on 7 months old. She is a super sweet dog and loves to cuddle and be with me all the time. Jackie is also a inside dog.

Lately, I've been looking at pictures of yorkies, reading about them and even looking at breeders websites, I want to fill my void with another Yorkie puppy. My trouble is I have a heeler dog which is a dominant breed and my husband worrys on how she will treat such a smaller dog. Or maybe get jealous and hurt a puppy.

Does anyone have experience with a heeler and a yorkie? I really want a yorkie for Christmas, and I told my husband its too easy for me to get one, so the decision is up to him. And he wants proof that it could work out for us.

Any ideas on how this can help will be appreciated!
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I think you need to wait a bit, and here is why. Start the obedience training, see how your heeler interacts with other dogs in that controlled environment. Along the way your trainer will get to know you and your dog. And will be another source for good advice.

As you know dogs have different personalities, and a dog with a high prey drive, that is not fully obedienced trained is a huge risk to a little Yorkie be it a full grown Yorkie or not. Even with full training there is still risk.

I do not have a heeler, but if you look in my avatar I do have 2 large breed dogs, and as such I monitor play time really well. Razzle and my oldest boy can and do interact really well together. But my younger female is never left alone with Razz, she has a large prey drive. One mis step if she chases Razz and she could at the minimum break a bone.

The other thing you can do is research up on the heeler. It's traits, personality etc.

Then think about if you would be prepared to crate either one or both dogs, when you are not at home, or at night when you sleep. Ensuring the pups don't go out into the backyard together alone.

The time you spend researching the heeler breed, the training, will also give you time to research good Yorkie breeders in your area.

And I know I see retractable leads out there on walks all the time, but I was taught they are only to be used for specific training commands in a controlled environment, not for taking your dog for a walk.

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I agree with having the obedience training on your heeler completed first, plus give her a little time to grow up and settle down some. I have had 2 champion Australian Cattle Dogs (blue or red "heelers") and one mixed breed heeler/aussie shepard and they were good with the Yorkies if I am supervising them. My 2 current ACD's sleep in the house but they are working dogs and don't have free roam in the house unless supervised. They never have free time with my Yorkies because the breed can have a high "prey drive" and they are so strong & quick, 2 of the 3 will even kill cats if given the opportunity so I've never trusted them with my Yorkies just in case.

Is there any way you could test Jackie with other small breeds first to see if she would get along with a Yorkie? How is she around other small dogs or cats? If she shows any sign of wanting to chase, mouth, nip, or bite I would strongly enourage you not to get a Yorkie, they just can't stand up to a dog like this.

ACD's are great dogs and I love mine but I know their breed temperament and just won't trust them around my Yorkies.

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And I know I see retractable leads out there on walks all the time, but I was taught they are only to be used for specific training commands in a controlled environment, not for taking your dog for a walk.

Gemy- There was no need for giving me a hard time about walking my dog on a retractable leash. That was a hard mistake I will never make again. And alot of people use retractable leashes for walking their dogs.

I thank you and Teresa for the advice you've given me. I think it will be for the best that I wait till Jackie is done with obediance school and then were going onto agility classes. So with all that going on I don't think I will have any time for a 2nd dog at this time.

Based on Jackie's performance around other dogs at her classes, will help me decide on a 2nd dog in the future.

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I'm so sorry for the loss of your dog. I agree that training your heeler first and doing safe tests would be good.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think gemy was trying to make you feel bad at all...just commenting on how dangerous they can be. I say this because I didn't even know they were a danger on walks before I read this post! I'll make sure to never use it on walks, and only use the regular leash. Thank you for sharing your story. It's going to help my yorkies be safer now!
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I don't think Gail intended to give you a hard time at all. She was just sharing some of her abundant knowledge. I understand why you would be sensitive about the topic though, and I am very sorry for your loss.

I have three australian shepherds. I am not sure if they have similar temperaments as australian cattle dogs, but they are both herding breeds. My big babies love Wobie, but sometimes they are more rough with him than they mean to be...but that can happen with any dogs with a big size difference.

I agree with others that doing obedience training with her first may give you an idea of how well she would work with a little yorkie. Good luck with your decision, it would probably be best to not rush into it before Christmas. And welcome to YT!
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And I know I see retractable leads out there on walks all the time, but I was taught they are only to be used for specific training commands in a controlled environment, not for taking your dog for a walk.

Gemy- There was no need for giving me a hard time about walking my dog on a retractable leash. That was a hard mistake I will never make again. And alot of people use retractable leashes for walking their dogs.

I thank you and Teresa for the advice you've given me. I think it will be for the best that I wait till Jackie is done with obediance school and then were going onto agility classes. So with all that going on I don't think I will have any time for a 2nd dog at this time.

Based on Jackie's performance around other dogs at her classes, will help me decide on a 2nd dog in the future.

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Kathy please accept my apologies. I reread my post, and I didn't mean to sound harsh, although I can see how it came across that way. I am truly sorry you lost your beloved yorkie.

You are right that many many walk dogs on these retractables. Here is where I see the danger lies. The lever or switch that locks the lead in one position, first can be hard to flip up or down, and then unless you are constantly aware you may think you have it in the locked position and you don;t. By the time you realize it isn't locked at a full out run a dog can move a fair number of yards, and then you are fumbling with that lever to press down or up depending on what model you have. the handle of the retractable is not too suited for quickly pulling aaway your dog out of danger either.

Those retractable should absolutely never be used with large dogs on walks especially. Let me share with you a real life situation. So we are all at the same hotel in Kentucky for our Black Russian Terrier National Specialty. This is a large breed dog. It is morning fairly early, and I am walking my boy down the stairs to go to the car, a woman with another large BRT male is coming up the stairs with that dog on a retractable, her dog charges mine, the leash sings out, she was desperately trying to push that lever down, her husband is yelling and finally leaps up 4 or so steps to burn his hands grabbing the "leash". My male thought this dog was charging me. He of course reacted, but he was stopped by my close haul on his regular lead and by my command. It could have been a disastrous situation.

So to say the least I am not a fan of retractable leads on walks.
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Kathy please accept my apologies. I reread my post, and I didn't mean to sound harsh, although I can see how it came across that way. I am truly sorry you lost your beloved yorkie.

You are right that many many walk dogs on these retractables. Here is where I see the danger lies. The lever or switch that locks the lead in one position, first can be hard to flip up or down, and then unless you are constantly aware you may think you have it in the locked position and you don;t. By the time you realize it isn't locked at a full out run a dog can move a fair number of yards, and then you are fumbling with that lever to press down or up depending on what model you have. the handle of the retractable is not too suited for quickly pulling aaway your dog out of danger either.

Those retractable should absolutely never be used with large dogs on walks especially. Let me share with you a real life situation. So we are all at the same hotel in Kentucky for our Black Russian Terrier National Specialty. This is a large breed dog. It is morning fairly early, and I am walking my boy down the stairs to go to the car, a woman with another large BRT male is coming up the stairs with that dog on a retractable, her dog charges mine, the leash sings out, she was desperately trying to push that lever down, her husband is yelling and finally leaps up 4 or so steps to burn his hands grabbing the "leash". My male thought this dog was charging me. He of course reacted, but he was stopped by my close haul on his regular lead and by my command. It could have been a disastrous situation.

So to say the least I am not a fan of retractable leads on walks.
I agree with you on the retractable leashes. I had a close call with one years ago so I through all mine away.

To the OP I agree with the others about getting obedience traing first. Also most reputable breeders wont sell at Christmas time anyway because of the usual hustle and bustle in households at that time. Good luck and Im sorry you lost your yorkie in such a tragic way. I just lost my beloved cat that was hit by a car so I know that hurt
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