|
Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member! Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us. |
|
| LinkBack | Thread Tools |
11-20-2010, 12:05 PM | #1 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 140
| Tommy Just Bit ME! I made a post yesterday about his behavior towards my brother http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tra...y-brother.html Basically he dislikes my brother and finds every muscle my brother twitches as a reason to run around barking and growling at him. Tommy will allow my brother to walk him, feed him treats, even let him hold him (while I sit there) but within 10min of putting him down he'll start back up again. Just now though, he took a change. My brother left that house and knocked back on the door to be let back in. Tommy started barking and running around as usual. When I got up he ran around to me and bit me on the leg. He kept barking at me and my brother until he left back out. I know he has it bad for my brother, but I'm kinda shocked and hurt that he'd take it out on me. I've had him for 2 weeks now and we've been getting along great (besides his issues w/ brother) He's a great doggie, I have no interest in taking him back to the rescue shelter. What should I/would you do? |
Welcome Guest! | |
11-20-2010, 01:24 PM | #2 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA
Posts: 947
| OMG. I don't have any more advice...just wonder what happened to that poor thing to make him so angry! I hope someone else has good advice. |
11-20-2010, 01:45 PM | #3 | |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Quote:
Biting you or your brother for that matter is unacceptable behaviour. And of course you are shocked and hurt that Tommy turned on you, just when you thought everything between you and him was going so well. You don't mention the age of your boy, how old is this dog? Biting you could have been from fear and or an over excited dog. Whatever the cause bites are unacceptable. You will need to destress your dog from the sound of the doorbell or knock. You could start first with him in his crate, and if after your command to hush, he does then give him a treat in his crate. Once Tommy understands this, then same exercise but with him on lead, secured to a chair leg by the front door, same thing you reward for obeying your comman no bark. It is going to take a lot of love, time and patience on your part to rehab this boy, but first steps first, try to find out as much as you can from the rescue about his history, and his behaviour with him.
__________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018 | |
11-20-2010, 01:50 PM | #4 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 18,866
| I'm guessing here, but it sounds like this could be a case of excitement transfer biting. They can't get to what they want to bite, so out of frustration, they will bite the next closest thing. Hope he didn't break skin. And unhurt your feelings, I don't think he meant to hurt you, I think he may have been more frustrated than anything. With rescues, many people tend to feel sorry for them, and this does not help. Sometimes they need a person to be firm with them and let them know that certain behaviors are not acceptable. Have you tried any kind of correction with him yet?
__________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity |
11-20-2010, 01:53 PM | #5 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 140
| Quote:
2. I wasn't planning on it to be 3. Well the first week he was home with me I did call (she likes to hear from Tommy) and let her know how he was adjusting. I told her how much he dislikes my brother and how he barks/growls. She said what others have said -a. more than likely Tommy was handled roughly by men all his life b. he's jealous of having my brother around me and wants him all to himself. I recently bought what I thought was a crate, but I think I got the wrong thing. This looks more like a crate I see people put in their car to bring their dog/cat to the vet. It doesn't seem like there is much room in there either (besides to just lay in one spot - no room to run around in) Do I need to take it back for a larger size? It was $15 @ Walmart? I'm going to give the woman at the rescue a call sometime soon before the day is over! | |
11-20-2010, 01:59 PM | #6 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 140
| Quote:
Ok, I'm going to unhurt my feelings. I just want to continue to be patient with him. The woman at the rescue told me to never hit or yell at him or he'll go back into his shell. I don't do either but I am firm with him and let him know when I'm unhappy. The other day his barking got to be annoying for even me (my bro tunes him out lol) so I put the babygate up and sat Tommy in the kitchen. He was still visible to me and about 10ft away. I put his bed in there and told him he was sleeping there tonight. He pretty much stayed quiet that entire time in the kitchen. Even when my bro had to enter the kitchen, Tommy still barked but it was noticably less often than usual. I think I may start using the kitchen/gate more often as his 'time out' area. | |
11-20-2010, 02:09 PM | #7 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 18,866
| Just read your other thread.... Does your brother wear the same style clothing and shoes all the time? Ask him to change up as a test, including hats and glasses, just to see if it's his appearance setting the dog off. When he acts like this toward your brother, I would do an 'Ah, Ah' for interuption and a firm 'No'. If you get no response, I would confine him in another room, till he calms down, then bring him out. If he starts again, do the 'No' and back to confinement. If this is not possible, I'd put him on a leash and make him sit. Does he act like this towards your brother when you're not there? Once an excitable dog gets going, it can be hard to bring them back, so try to prevent it from starting in the first place. Reward good behavior, and physically block the bad, with the leash or the separate room. It can take months for a dog to learn to accept things that they aren't comfortable with. But, with repetition, it can be done.
__________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity |
11-20-2010, 02:16 PM | #8 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 140
| Quote:
I have been telling him 'ah ah, no" and he'll continue on. I know he hears me, because while he barks at my brother, he'll look over at me, as if he wants me to know he's still yelling at my brother. How long should confinement be? I've tried having him sit/stay. I dont think anyone has ever taught him those commands. Guess that'll be our little project together. | |
11-20-2010, 02:25 PM | #9 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 140
| eta: When I leave for work, usually my brother isn't home yet. So I have tommy in the half bathroom. When my brother gets home, he gives himself about 1-2hrs of quiet before letting Tommy out from the bathroom. And then, the barking resumes. It's not really non-stop barking but it's whatever movement my brother makes just sets him off. |
11-20-2010, 02:31 PM | #10 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 18,866
| Has he been sleeping with you? If yes, you may need to keep him out of your bedroom until he accepts his new home and eveyone in it. I know this sounds harsh, but sometimes dogs end up at the shelter because they've never been taught manners and were just allowed to do as they please. Or as in his situation, never properly socialized... And just a warning, be careful when he is in full tilt excitement stage, they are more prone to bite, so the importance of not letting him 'get there'. Also, try some different commands with him. It was months before I hollered 'Go lay down!' to my out of control Tinkerbell. To my shock and surprise... she did just that! I never use that command, but remembered it from a childhood moment... Try as many things that you can think of, until you find ones that will get a response from him.
__________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity |
11-20-2010, 02:35 PM | #11 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 140
| Quote:
I'm learning alot! I love YT | |
11-20-2010, 03:05 PM | #12 | |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 18,866
| Quote:
Or you can try 'Stop it' or 'Enough!' If that doesn't work, I'd put him in the kitchen, till he calms down.(15-30 minutes) As you bring him back out, if he starts, then right back in. He'll eventually learn that out and quiet means stay out, and noisey and barking gets him confined. When your DB lets him out when you're not there, and he starts the barking, DB should confine him to the kitchen also. It's not fair to subject your DB to all that abuse from the dog! And not good for training to ever allow the dog to just continue barking again. There has to be a consequence for bad behavior, just as treats are used for good behavior.
__________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity | |
11-20-2010, 03:16 PM | #13 | |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 18,866
| Quote:
Maybe just make the kitchen his own room for now? Watch keeping him in a bathroom... some Yorkies manage to fall into the toilet and drown...
__________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity | |
11-20-2010, 04:34 PM | #14 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: California
Posts: 104
| Hi! I'm so sorry to hear about what happened. I don't really have any experience in this area, but I was just wondering if he was neutered? Sometimes male does that are not neutered are more aggressive. Best of luck fixing this issue.
__________________ |
11-20-2010, 06:00 PM | #15 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,317
| Since Tommy is a puppymill rescue, I would really recommend you consult a professional behaviorist. She will come to your home, evaluate Tommy and work with your entire family to address Tommy's issues. Any rescue comes with baggage, but poor Tommy probably lived a nightmare until you adopted him. Trying to help him on your own may not help and may even make him worse. Just wanted to share one of my favorite poems. Baggage Now that I'm home, bathed, settled, and fed, All nicely tucked into my warm new bed. I would like to open my baggage Lest I forget, There is so much to carry - So much to regret. Hmm... Yes there it is, right on the top - Let's unpack Loneliness, Heartache and Loss, And there by my leash hides Fear and Shame. As I look on these things I tried so hard to leave - I still have to unpack my baggage called Pain. I loved them, the others, the ones who left me, But I wasn't good enough - for they didn't want me. Will you add to my baggage? Will you help me unpack? Or will you just look at my things and take me right back? Do you have the time to help me unpack? To put away my baggage, To never re-pack? I pray that you do - I'm so tired you see, But I do come with baggage - Will you still want me? By Evelyn Colbath |
Bookmarks |
|
|
| |
|
|
SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart