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MaxnRuby · 10-04-2010, 02:09 PM

Our 7 month old Yorkie is about 2.5-3lbs. She had been doing great with potty training until we had our baby 2 weeks ago. She is now going potty in her crate EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. We have 3 kids and the oldest will be 4 on Friday so you can imagine we are BUSY! We are at our final straw with waking up to a mess and having to bathe her. PLEASE I NEED ADVICE. What is the problem? Why is she doing this? Ill list what we have already tried.

Her crate space is TINY now.
Only feeding her once a day and limiting water. NO FOOD or WATER after around 2:00 or so.
Taking her out in the middle of the night. We took her out last night at midnight and 3 am when I woke up to feed baby at 7 I go to let her out and she had peed in her crate.

Any advice I NEED it.. My husband and I are so furious and need this to stop NOW. She isnt eating or drinking well anyway since the baby has been home anyway. Ive given her Nutrical a few days just to make sure she does get hypoglycemic.

Thanks so much for listening we really love her but cant do this much longer. She was holding it from midnight until 6 or 7 before and that was being feed and drinking water at around 4 or 5.

boopster · 10-04-2010, 02:15 PM

That's awfully young to be limiting meals so much. And it's pretty dangerous to limit water at all. She is probably acting out because you are so very busy and she isn't getting the attention she needs.

It sounds like you are expecting her to go outside every time. Is that right? You might consider giving her a potty pad to use inside the house.

And I hate to say it, but maybe a Yorkie isn't the right breed for you in this stage of your life. With three kids under 4 years of age, you have an awful lot on your plate. Plus Yorkies are so delicate, they are generally not a great mix with toddlers. Do you have a friend or family member who has lots of time to devote to loving on a little dog? Perhaps rehoming her would be the best choice for your young family.

MaxnRuby · 10-04-2010, 02:22 PM

Her meals weren't limited at all before this has only been done recently to see if this was the problem. She is fine all day with going outside its only at night she is having accidents. So there is no need for a pee pad in the house. She lets us know she needs to go out all day. She is fine with the kids and the kids are fine with her. Sure she is getting less attention from us but its not like she caged all day or anything. She is out all day, shes sitting with us anytime were sitting on the couch and things really havent changed much for her because the baby is only 2 weeks old and sleeping majority of the day! Rehoming her is the last thing we want to do we would be heartbroken and so would our boys they really love Kennedi and she loves them too!

boopster · 10-04-2010, 02:29 PM

Oh -- I read too much into your first post and thought you were keeping her crated all the time. Hopefully some of the experts here will be able to help you out with suggestions. Glad to know how much you love your little dog.

You must be exhausted with a new baby and toddlers. I hope you can work it out and fully enjoy all of your babies!

Patti · 10-04-2010, 02:42 PM

I would give her more time to adjust to the new baby. She is at an age where things can set them back in their potty training. I hope it works out for you. Congratulations on the new baby. These little ones need a lot patience to get them trained.

shoefelmeyer · 10-04-2010, 02:56 PM

Your little yorkie is still young. So, just the slightest change in "environment" can throw them off for a little while. Patience and time is the key for your little yorkie.

My own little yorkie will be 8 months old on October 8th. She has had her own world turned upside down with me having to go be with my family in Georgia these past 2 months. My Grandmother finally passed away at age 96, 2 weeks ago. Anyways, this past visit back to Georgia I had to take "Princess" with me and she was one very happy little girl to be with me.

I agree that limiting food and water is not the best choice. They need to be fed twice a day and need water available at all times.

I have a suggestion that may work for you. This is what I have set up for my little yorkie. I have an XT Play Yard in my kitchen. I keep her pee pad, kennel, food and water, toys, etc. in there for Princess. She has proven to me she can be trusted to run around the house without accidents when I am able to keep an eye on her. If I am busy, I put her in the play yard in my kitchen to keep her safe and also if she does not let me know she needs to go outside, she does have her pee pad. I have decided to dual train her to go outside but to also be pee pad trained for times when we may travel with her, or we are not home, asleep, etc.

If you need a photo of how I have the XT Play Yard set up, I can message a photo to you.

Maybe what I suggested may be an option to consider. Hoping you will not have to rehome your little yorkie.

xoxJuliexox · 10-04-2010, 03:01 PM

did i read that wrong or are you onl feeding her once a day? If so that is horrible, poor thing she needs food and water especiall if she is so tiny, do you have a bathroon, laundry room or an kind of space u can keep her in if the crate is to small? I have a play pen for m smalled and its rig enough for all her things. She could be acting out like the others have said since you havent been able to give her a lot of attention. Please keep us updated and don't deprive her of food.

Bentleys Momma · 10-04-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxJuliexox

did i read that wrong or are you onl feeding her once a day? If so that is horrible, poor thing she needs food and water especiall if she is so tiny,

This really scared me too.

MaxnRuby · 10-04-2010, 03:06 PM

I really dont have anywhere to keep her at night other than the crate. The crate is not too small I just have it blocked off because I thought maybe she was going because she had too mcuh space but thats not the case she will go anyway. Someone suggested putting a pad on the other side of her crate only at night to see if she will use it if she needs too.. I only limited her food for one day to see if it would help. It didnt help so its been down as normal. She doesnt eat much anyway maybe 1/2 cup a day. Thanks for all the suggestions!

Bentleys Momma · 10-04-2010, 03:12 PM

I don't think I would put a pee pad in her crate as I think that would only reinforce her going potty in there. I imagine it is just the change with the baby. We have a weiner dog that was my dog and loved the fact that I had such a horrible pregnancy. He was by my side while I was laid up morning through night. But when the baby came he disowned me like yesterday's news. That was 8 years ago and he still only puts up with me when I am giving treats to my two yorkies!!!

I think it'll just take time. And I am sure somebody here will have a GREAT suggestion. I wish you the best of luck as I can only imagine how trying this must be when you are already sleep deprived with the new baby (and congrats on that BTW).

Peggy, Monkey & Maddie

cathys · 10-04-2010, 03:13 PM

She is very young to be going without food and water for so long. I think I would get an x-pen with a piddle pad, her bed and food and water. This way she will feel free and still be safely out of the way of little and big feet. She is just a baby herself, please don't forget that. They have set backs in potty training just like human children. She knows that there are changes in her home, but she is confused by them, after all she was the baby. Give her some time to adjust, she will. Maybe make someone else be in charge of giving her someone on one attention.

yorkieusa · 10-04-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxnRuby

Our 7 month old Yorkie is about 2.5-3lbs. She had been doing great with potty training until we had our baby 2 weeks ago. She is now going potty in her crate EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. We have 3 kids and the oldest will be 4 on Friday so you can imagine we are BUSY! We are at our final straw with waking up to a mess and having to bathe her. PLEASE I NEED ADVICE. What is the problem? Why is she doing this? Ill list what we have already tried.

Her crate space is TINY now.
Only feeding her once a day and limiting water. NO FOOD or WATER after around 2:00 or so.
Taking her out in the middle of the night. We took her out last night at midnight and 3 am when I woke up to feed baby at 7 I go to let her out and she had peed in her crate.

Any advice I NEED it.. My husband and I are so furious and need this to stop NOW. She isnt eating or drinking well anyway since the baby has been home anyway. Ive given her Nutrical a few days just to make sure she does get hypoglycemic.

Thanks so much for listening we really love her but cant do this much longer. She was holding it from midnight until 6 or 7 before and that was being feed and drinking water at around 4 or 5.

It has only been two weeks. She's very tiny and I cannot understand your anger at one so young. Try setting up the play pen for her with her crate in it and leave the door of her crate open so she can go to a piddle pad in the play pen if she needs it. Most of all, she needs love, attention, and a schedule. Perhaps it hasn't occurred to you that your getting up in the night has changed her schedule and upset her, too.

MaxnRuby · 10-04-2010, 04:30 PM

You all are great I knew you guys would understand. I will try the diaper idea and see how that goes... Hopefully it will all resolve itself soon!!! She will come around soon... She gets a lot of attention from the boys and us so hopefully she will soon realize we still love her!!! Thanks again!!! Oh I will try moving the crate in our room tonight to see if that helps. MAybe she's asking to go potty and we don't hear her in the front room!

BanditSocks2 · 10-04-2010, 04:34 PM

I think the ex-pen might be your best choice. I would still continue feeding her 2 meals though even if you keep them early. Good luck!!

Rhetts_mama · 10-04-2010, 04:47 PM

If this is a recent problem, I would have her checked out by a vet first to rule out a health problem such as worms. But I have to agree with the others here who have said that at her weight, feeding her once a day is dangerous to her health.

Also, at 7 months old, she's still a baby herself. Would you expect a toddler to be perfectly potty trained? Puppies, like kids, get thrown off when their routine is disrupted. I imagine that since you mention a new baby, that the dog's sleep is probably disrupted a bit with the baby getting up and down at night. That in turn is going to throw off her body rhythms.

The ex-pen is a great suggestion. It's possible that her crate is just too small now, and when she goes, she has NO option but stepping in it because there isn't room.

10-04-2010, 02:09 PM	#1
MaxnRuby Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Smyrna Ga Posts: 16	I need help Our 7 month old Yorkie is about 2.5-3lbs. She had been doing great with potty training until we had our baby 2 weeks ago. She is now going potty in her crate EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. We have 3 kids and the oldest will be 4 on Friday so you can imagine we are BUSY! We are at our final straw with waking up to a mess and having to bathe her. PLEASE I NEED ADVICE. What is the problem? Why is she doing this? Ill list what we have already tried. Her crate space is TINY now. Only feeding her once a day and limiting water. NO FOOD or WATER after around 2:00 or so. Taking her out in the middle of the night. We took her out last night at midnight and 3 am when I woke up to feed baby at 7 I go to let her out and she had peed in her crate. Any advice I NEED it.. My husband and I are so furious and need this to stop NOW. She isnt eating or drinking well anyway since the baby has been home anyway. Ive given her Nutrical a few days just to make sure she does get hypoglycemic. Thanks so much for listening we really love her but cant do this much longer. She was holding it from midnight until 6 or 7 before and that was being feed and drinking water at around 4 or 5.

10-04-2010, 02:42 PM	#5
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I would give her more time to adjust to the new baby. She is at an age where things can set them back in their potty training. I hope it works out for you. Congratulations on the new baby. These little ones need a lot patience to get them trained. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

10-04-2010, 02:56 PM	#6
shoefelmeyer Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 839	Your little yorkie is still young. So, just the slightest change in "environment" can throw them off for a little while. Patience and time is the key for your little yorkie. My own little yorkie will be 8 months old on October 8th. She has had her own world turned upside down with me having to go be with my family in Georgia these past 2 months. My Grandmother finally passed away at age 96, 2 weeks ago. Anyways, this past visit back to Georgia I had to take "Princess" with me and she was one very happy little girl to be with me. I agree that limiting food and water is not the best choice. They need to be fed twice a day and need water available at all times. I have a suggestion that may work for you. This is what I have set up for my little yorkie. I have an XT Play Yard in my kitchen. I keep her pee pad, kennel, food and water, toys, etc. in there for Princess. She has proven to me she can be trusted to run around the house without accidents when I am able to keep an eye on her. If I am busy, I put her in the play yard in my kitchen to keep her safe and also if she does not let me know she needs to go outside, she does have her pee pad. I have decided to dual train her to go outside but to also be pee pad trained for times when we may travel with her, or we are not home, asleep, etc. If you need a photo of how I have the XT Play Yard set up, I can message a photo to you. Maybe what I suggested may be an option to consider. Hoping you will not have to rehome your little yorkie. Last edited by shoefelmeyer; 10-04-2010 at 02:59 PM.

10-04-2010, 03:12 PM	#10
Bentleys Momma YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 793	I don't think I would put a pee pad in her crate as I think that would only reinforce her going potty in there. I imagine it is just the change with the baby. We have a weiner dog that was my dog and loved the fact that I had such a horrible pregnancy. He was by my side while I was laid up morning through night. But when the baby came he disowned me like yesterday's news. That was 8 years ago and he still only puts up with me when I am giving treats to my two yorkies!!! I think it'll just take time. And I am sure somebody here will have a GREAT suggestion. I wish you the best of luck as I can only imagine how trying this must be when you are already sleep deprived with the new baby (and congrats on that BTW). Peggy, Monkey & Maddie __________________ "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." — Will Rogers

10-04-2010, 04:47 PM	#15
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	If this is a recent problem, I would have her checked out by a vet first to rule out a health problem such as worms. But I have to agree with the others here who have said that at her weight, feeding her once a day is dangerous to her health. Also, at 7 months old, she's still a baby herself. Would you expect a toddler to be perfectly potty trained? Puppies, like kids, get thrown off when their routine is disrupted. I imagine that since you mention a new baby, that the dog's sleep is probably disrupted a bit with the baby getting up and down at night. That in turn is going to throw off her body rhythms. The ex-pen is a great suggestion. It's possible that her crate is just too small now, and when she goes, she has NO option but stepping in it because there isn't room. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny. Last edited by Rhetts_mama; 10-04-2010 at 04:48 PM.

10-04-2010, 02:15 PM	#2
boopster Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 1,643 Blog Entries: 1	That's awfully young to be limiting meals so much. And it's pretty dangerous to limit water at all. She is probably acting out because you are so very busy and she isn't getting the attention she needs. It sounds like you are expecting her to go outside every time. Is that right? You might consider giving her a potty pad to use inside the house. And I hate to say it, but maybe a Yorkie isn't the right breed for you in this stage of your life. With three kids under 4 years of age, you have an awful lot on your plate. Plus Yorkies are so delicate, they are generally not a great mix with toddlers. Do you have a friend or family member who has lots of time to devote to loving on a little dog? Perhaps rehoming her would be the best choice for your young family.

10-04-2010, 02:22 PM	#3
MaxnRuby Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Smyrna Ga Posts: 16	Her meals weren't limited at all before this has only been done recently to see if this was the problem. She is fine all day with going outside its only at night she is having accidents. So there is no need for a pee pad in the house. She lets us know she needs to go out all day. She is fine with the kids and the kids are fine with her. Sure she is getting less attention from us but its not like she caged all day or anything. She is out all day, shes sitting with us anytime were sitting on the couch and things really havent changed much for her because the baby is only 2 weeks old and sleeping majority of the day! Rehoming her is the last thing we want to do we would be heartbroken and so would our boys they really love Kennedi and she loves them too!

10-04-2010, 02:29 PM	#4
boopster Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 1,643 Blog Entries: 1	Oh -- I read too much into your first post and thought you were keeping her crated all the time. Hopefully some of the experts here will be able to help you out with suggestions. Glad to know how much you love your little dog. You must be exhausted with a new baby and toddlers. I hope you can work it out and fully enjoy all of your babies!

10-04-2010, 03:01 PM	#7
xoxJuliexox Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: bay area, ca Posts: 176	did i read that wrong or are you onl feeding her once a day? If so that is horrible, poor thing she needs food and water especiall if she is so tiny, do you have a bathroon, laundry room or an kind of space u can keep her in if the crate is to small? I have a play pen for m smalled and its rig enough for all her things. She could be acting out like the others have said since you havent been able to give her a lot of attention. Please keep us updated and don't deprive her of food.

10-04-2010, 03:06 PM	#9
MaxnRuby Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Smyrna Ga Posts: 16	I really dont have anywhere to keep her at night other than the crate. The crate is not too small I just have it blocked off because I thought maybe she was going because she had too mcuh space but thats not the case she will go anyway. Someone suggested putting a pad on the other side of her crate only at night to see if she will use it if she needs too.. I only limited her food for one day to see if it would help. It didnt help so its been down as normal. She doesnt eat much anyway maybe 1/2 cup a day. Thanks for all the suggestions!

10-04-2010, 03:13 PM	#11
cathys Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: CA,USA Posts: 1,623	She is very young to be going without food and water for so long. I think I would get an x-pen with a piddle pad, her bed and food and water. This way she will feel free and still be safely out of the way of little and big feet. She is just a baby herself, please don't forget that. They have set backs in potty training just like human children. She knows that there are changes in her home, but she is confused by them, after all she was the baby. Give her some time to adjust, she will. Maybe make someone else be in charge of giving her someone on one attention.

10-04-2010, 04:30 PM	#13
MaxnRuby Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Smyrna Ga Posts: 16	You all are great I knew you guys would understand. I will try the diaper idea and see how that goes... Hopefully it will all resolve itself soon!!! She will come around soon... She gets a lot of attention from the boys and us so hopefully she will soon realize we still love her!!! Thanks again!!! Oh I will try moving the crate in our room tonight to see if that helps. MAybe she's asking to go potty and we don't hear her in the front room!

10-04-2010, 04:34 PM	#14
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	I think the ex-pen might be your best choice. I would still continue feeding her 2 meals though even if you keep them early. Good luck!!