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brendarash · 08-18-2010, 08:43 PM

I am so upset about this situation. I have 6 dogs total. 4 are yorkies and all are the sweetest little girls and 1 boy. Two of the yorkies are rescues. Rosie is a 8 yr. old. She came from a puppy mill. She was abused very bad and was taken into the vet to be put down due to the fact that she would not let the male get near her. After them trying for 6 yrs. and her being severely kicked,beat, ect.She finally had a puppy.When the puppy was 5 weeks this person took her to the vet and said put her to sleep. Well, that vet took her had them sign a release and then called a rescue near me. I happen to go in to see if the rescue had any yorkies and low and behold,I adopted Rosie. Rosie had alot of problems (of course the poor baby did ) She got along real good with the other dogs, with out any problems. Then about a year later or so I was asked by a friend to watch her mothers little almost 2 yr. old yorkie. Well she had surgery. They all got along very good with no problems. This little girls name was Diamond. After a month here with my group,and many visits from Diamond's Mom, she said she does not even act the same and seems so happy here. The next day she calls and asks me do I want to keep her? Of course, I said sure. Diamond then became Julie. I said from the beginning something was not right with Julie, Could not jump, run,and kept biting at her back end. It only took me about a hour watching her. I called my friend and asked if it was okay to have her checked by a vet. They said yes because she has always acted funny but the vet could not find anything wrong. Except for L.P in both knees. I took her to the vet with the complaints of not being able to jump, run, and just stood in place with her head facing the floor, biting occasional at her back end. That vet confirmed LP in both knees,I asked about anal glands,spine ect. She said no this is just her personality.I was not happy with that so the next day I took her to a different vet I have never even seen but wanted another opinion, Well, she said LP and impacted anal glands. From that point on she never bothered her back end. But still is not like most 2 yr old dogs, I have ever seen.She now jumps on the furniture runs and barks with the rest of the group. Well the problem is back about 3 months ago, while sitting in the living room and loud knock came at the door,Rosie started barking and ran over and jumped on Julie biting her. I ran over grabbed Rosie and put her in the crate.I could not believe my eyes.She acted like a wild animal. I said what the heck was that? About two weeks later? I had to leave the house and I put Rosie in the crate before leaving. After returning I opened the door to find Poor Julie sitting in a puddle of blood. Oh my goodness I about died, I grabbed her, ran to the car and sped to the vet, ran inside and told them what happened. They took her in the back and did a hour's worth of surgery to stitch and staple her wounds.I was in shock,poor Julie.I could not even imagine how did Rosie get out, No one was even home just the dogs. Mean while. what do I do with Rosie? I can not keep her in the house, Will she do this to my tiny Sadie what is going on? While she was being stitched up I ran home got Rosie and took her to the rescue where I got her. I can not have this happen ever again. They said go take care of Julie we will try to find a home for Rosie if that is what I wanted. I did not know what I wanted,except I did not want Rosie biting any of my babies.While taking care of Julie 24/7 turning, cleaning and taking her to the vet 3 times a day for cleanings and pain shots,I called so many animal behaverest, (spelling) and animal specialist, They all said, 4 different ones. Why is Rosie out of the house? I was not expecting that.That is Rosie's house. They are animals, This can happen, or something may be wrong with Julie.Or she does not fit in the pack. But this can be delt with, seperate them and put Rosie on meds(prozac). We figured out when Rosie heres a loud noise or I walk into the house after being away.She gets so excited does not know how to deal with it. Then before you know it,she jumps on Julie. But not if I am here. So we keep them apart from each other. Rosie has calmed down A lot with her meds but she still gets freaked out with loud noises and my adult Son. If he is here. it has been a few months, everything was going good, Then today my son comes in. lets the dogs out to potty ( I was at the Dr with my husband) He calls me very upset ,he said Rosie was trying to kill Julie,She was biting her on her neck .she was just laying on her back doing nothing.I said what was she doing out of the room ? He had just let them out ran upstairs for a minute, heard a funny noise ran down stairs and found them.He said Julie is not bleeding that he could see. I got here as soon as possible. I checked Julie over and she had a bite wound on her neck and ear. I cleaned her with the same cleaner (antibiotic) From the vets office. She is scared ,and just laying on the bed at this time,I called the vet she said to stop in tomorrow in the morning. To get a shot of antibiotic. I can not handle this happening to Julie any more. She is so attached to me and me to her,she has been in 4 homes and she is only 2yrs old. I can not put her through this any more. Julie does bark and pace the whole time I am gone. Her Vet put her on the same meds as Rosie . She has separation anxiety. I do not know if she was barking and pacing and that is what set Rosie off or what. I love this little girl and I do not know if it is better to find a new home for her or what. I have a contract with the rescue . I can not find a home for Rosie. She was there for a month but could not find any one interested in her because she bites children and now dogs. Has any one ever had this problem? I want so bad for every thing to be okay and not have Julie to ever have this happen again. I have been crating Julie or Rosie when I leave that was working fine. If I am home she does not even get near Julie. I wanted some one 's suggestions please. I am so sorry it is so long.

Britster · 08-19-2010, 05:35 AM

Aw, I am sorry Brenda. That sounds like such a tough situation that I couldn't deal with. It sounds like Rosie would be happier in a single dog home with maybe an older retired couple or something, to be honest. I know you didn't want to think about rehoming her, but it's just a thought.

Are both girls spayed? How much exercise do they get every day? If you can walk just the two of them together before you leave everytime, walking often times forms a bond, and dogs that will try to kill each other indoors are often fine on walks together. It might help a bit.

Obviously with Rosie coming from a puppy mill, she's got issues that are going to be really hard to resolve. I don't have experience with any puppy mill aggressive dogs like Rosie, so I'm not sure what to tell you.

143julz · 08-19-2010, 06:24 AM

Oh no!! Rosie needs a little AA-Attitude Adjustment

If only it could be that easy, i wish you luck with this horrible situation and that everything works out.

bchgirl · 08-19-2010, 06:43 AM

While it's easy to contribute Rosie's aggressiveness to Julie as a result of her early environment that simply may not be the case. There are many females who are aggressive to other females in the home. In the wild only the alpha female is allowed to breed and she will fight to retain her status. She views Julie as a weak dog. When you have several dogs in the household...a pack mentality does take place. Unfortunately what sometimes happens...once one dog attacks another...the others sometimes join in.

Personally I think Rosie should be re-homed into a single dog home without young children.

Good luck

Teegy · 08-19-2010, 06:48 AM

oh my god, I think Rosie needs to visit a trainer and agree she should be re-housed

furbutt · 08-19-2010, 10:18 AM

Terrible situation to be in. I wish you the best of luck working this out xx

MyBabyFynnlie · 08-19-2010, 10:56 AM

I agree. I'd try to have her rehomed. I know you don't want to do that but you have to think about what is best for both you, your dogs and Rosie.

I hope you can figure this out and everything is a happy ending.

misslissa · 08-19-2010, 12:55 PM

i have been in your situation and i had to re-home one of the dogs. she nearly killed my chi mix and i was scared for my other dogs. i know she is in a good home that loves her and that lets me sleep at night.
If you wanna talk about it some more or hear some of the advice my trainers gave me you can PM me

speleogirl37 · 08-19-2010, 01:19 PM

Awww Brenda I'm so sorry

I agree with everyone she would probably be alot better in a home with no other dog. Good luck to you!

brendarash · 08-19-2010, 01:48 PM

I want to thank every one for the info. Brit, yes all of my babies are spayed. I walk them a lot and they go out side every hour or so into the back yard. I am home all day with them so they are use to me staying home with them. I took Julie to the vet this morning they wanted to keep her to watch her. When I picked her up I also got to talk to her behavorest (I know its spelled wrong sorry) The vet and myself sat down to talk about what they found. She said they found a very small scrape mark on the side of her head. I looked that baby over every inch with a flash light last night I saw a bite mark, I also saw and cleaned her ear it was bleeding. She said the only thing was she had a very bad ear infection and it was bleeding. That is strange,The amount of time I spend kissing on ALL of my babies ears I think I would of noticed that. Not to mention she was groomed monthly Aug.1 was the last time. I said are you sure its not from a head injury?no, she said. "I think Rosie was trying to clean her ear". I said no, my son picked her up and she was still in Rosie,s mouth. She was trying to kill her. Well, she said if she wanted to kill her she would of, even if it was 45 seconds. Well, beleive me I am glad they could not find any bite marks but they put her on all kinds of meds for her ear infection.I know I am probably going to have to re home Julie, I just have to get myself in the mind set. I know it is not right to keep her here with me because I love this little girl so darn much and she is just as nuts about me. I have to think of Julie, it is not far, I know. I want to find someone that is home all the time and in time I will find that perfect family.The behavorist said you have to learn to manage them, buy putting them in seperate rooms when I am gone ,crating,ect. If I am here they even sleep lay,sit on the back of the sofa together, with no problems.But if I leave,that is when this happens.Again thank you so much, I Know alot of you say to re home Rosie but 4 different behaviorest all said if you are going to re home It should be Julie. In the past once Rosie starts biting on Julie the other ones join in. This time they did not. I think my son cought her soon enough before any damage was done. Thank goodness.This is the same vet that treated her for a month the last time it happened. I trust them and they are good. Thank you.

08-18-2010, 08:43 PM	#1
brendarash Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Posts: 375	Poor Julie was attacked again. I am so upset about this situation. I have 6 dogs total. 4 are yorkies and all are the sweetest little girls and 1 boy. Two of the yorkies are rescues. Rosie is a 8 yr. old. She came from a puppy mill. She was abused very bad and was taken into the vet to be put down due to the fact that she would not let the male get near her. After them trying for 6 yrs. and her being severely kicked,beat, ect.She finally had a puppy.When the puppy was 5 weeks this person took her to the vet and said put her to sleep. Well, that vet took her had them sign a release and then called a rescue near me. I happen to go in to see if the rescue had any yorkies and low and behold,I adopted Rosie. Rosie had alot of problems (of course the poor baby did ) She got along real good with the other dogs, with out any problems. Then about a year later or so I was asked by a friend to watch her mothers little almost 2 yr. old yorkie. Well she had surgery. They all got along very good with no problems. This little girls name was Diamond. After a month here with my group,and many visits from Diamond's Mom, she said she does not even act the same and seems so happy here. The next day she calls and asks me do I want to keep her? Of course, I said sure. Diamond then became Julie. I said from the beginning something was not right with Julie, Could not jump, run,and kept biting at her back end. It only took me about a hour watching her. I called my friend and asked if it was okay to have her checked by a vet. They said yes because she has always acted funny but the vet could not find anything wrong. Except for L.P in both knees. I took her to the vet with the complaints of not being able to jump, run, and just stood in place with her head facing the floor, biting occasional at her back end. That vet confirmed LP in both knees,I asked about anal glands,spine ect. She said no this is just her personality.I was not happy with that so the next day I took her to a different vet I have never even seen but wanted another opinion, Well, she said LP and impacted anal glands. From that point on she never bothered her back end. But still is not like most 2 yr old dogs, I have ever seen.She now jumps on the furniture runs and barks with the rest of the group. Well the problem is back about 3 months ago, while sitting in the living room and loud knock came at the door,Rosie started barking and ran over and jumped on Julie biting her. I ran over grabbed Rosie and put her in the crate.I could not believe my eyes.She acted like a wild animal. I said what the heck was that? About two weeks later? I had to leave the house and I put Rosie in the crate before leaving. After returning I opened the door to find Poor Julie sitting in a puddle of blood. Oh my goodness I about died, I grabbed her, ran to the car and sped to the vet, ran inside and told them what happened. They took her in the back and did a hour's worth of surgery to stitch and staple her wounds.I was in shock,poor Julie.I could not even imagine how did Rosie get out, No one was even home just the dogs. Mean while. what do I do with Rosie? I can not keep her in the house, Will she do this to my tiny Sadie what is going on? While she was being stitched up I ran home got Rosie and took her to the rescue where I got her. I can not have this happen ever again. They said go take care of Julie we will try to find a home for Rosie if that is what I wanted. I did not know what I wanted,except I did not want Rosie biting any of my babies.While taking care of Julie 24/7 turning, cleaning and taking her to the vet 3 times a day for cleanings and pain shots,I called so many animal behaverest, (spelling) and animal specialist, They all said, 4 different ones. Why is Rosie out of the house? I was not expecting that.That is Rosie's house. They are animals, This can happen, or something may be wrong with Julie.Or she does not fit in the pack. But this can be delt with, seperate them and put Rosie on meds(prozac). We figured out when Rosie heres a loud noise or I walk into the house after being away.She gets so excited does not know how to deal with it. Then before you know it,she jumps on Julie. But not if I am here. So we keep them apart from each other. Rosie has calmed down A lot with her meds but she still gets freaked out with loud noises and my adult Son. If he is here. it has been a few months, everything was going good, Then today my son comes in. lets the dogs out to potty ( I was at the Dr with my husband) He calls me very upset ,he said Rosie was trying to kill Julie,She was biting her on her neck .she was just laying on her back doing nothing.I said what was she doing out of the room ? He had just let them out ran upstairs for a minute, heard a funny noise ran down stairs and found them.He said Julie is not bleeding that he could see. I got here as soon as possible. I checked Julie over and she had a bite wound on her neck and ear. I cleaned her with the same cleaner (antibiotic) From the vets office. She is scared ,and just laying on the bed at this time,I called the vet she said to stop in tomorrow in the morning. To get a shot of antibiotic. I can not handle this happening to Julie any more. She is so attached to me and me to her,she has been in 4 homes and she is only 2yrs old. I can not put her through this any more. Julie does bark and pace the whole time I am gone. Her Vet put her on the same meds as Rosie . She has separation anxiety. I do not know if she was barking and pacing and that is what set Rosie off or what. I love this little girl and I do not know if it is better to find a new home for her or what. I have a contract with the rescue . I can not find a home for Rosie. She was there for a month but could not find any one interested in her because she bites children and now dogs. Has any one ever had this problem? I want so bad for every thing to be okay and not have Julie to ever have this happen again. I have been crating Julie or Rosie when I leave that was working fine. If I am home she does not even get near Julie. I wanted some one 's suggestions please. I am so sorry it is so long. __________________ Brenda Jackie,Sadie, Rosie, Julie and Sophie my other non yorkie fur babies Romeo Lillie and Sammie, Jessie, Callie, Cloie.

08-19-2010, 05:35 AM	#2
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	Aw, I am sorry Brenda. That sounds like such a tough situation that I couldn't deal with. It sounds like Rosie would be happier in a single dog home with maybe an older retired couple or something, to be honest. I know you didn't want to think about rehoming her, but it's just a thought. Are both girls spayed? How much exercise do they get every day? If you can walk just the two of them together before you leave everytime, walking often times forms a bond, and dogs that will try to kill each other indoors are often fine on walks together. It might help a bit. Obviously with Rosie coming from a puppy mill, she's got issues that are going to be really hard to resolve. I don't have experience with any puppy mill aggressive dogs like Rosie, so I'm not sure what to tell you. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

08-19-2010, 06:24 AM	#3
143julz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,294	Oh no!! Rosie needs a little AA-Attitude Adjustment If only it could be that easy, i wish you luck with this horrible situation and that everything works out. __________________ Dudley Doo and Dexter too!!! RIP (12/93-10/08) MY LIL JULZ!!!

08-19-2010, 06:43 AM	#4
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	While it's easy to contribute Rosie's aggressiveness to Julie as a result of her early environment that simply may not be the case. There are many females who are aggressive to other females in the home. In the wild only the alpha female is allowed to breed and she will fight to retain her status. She views Julie as a weak dog. When you have several dogs in the household...a pack mentality does take place. Unfortunately what sometimes happens...once one dog attacks another...the others sometimes join in. Personally I think Rosie should be re-homed into a single dog home without young children. Good luck __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com

08-19-2010, 10:18 AM	#6
furbutt My Princess Poppy Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: England Posts: 802	Terrible situation to be in. I wish you the best of luck working this out xx __________________ Natasha & Poppy Yorkietalk guardian angels saved my little girl

08-19-2010, 06:48 AM	#5
Teegy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,631	oh my god, I think Rosie needs to visit a trainer and agree she should be re-housed

08-19-2010, 10:56 AM	#7
MyBabyFynnlie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charlottesville, Virgina, US Posts: 806	I agree. I'd try to have her rehomed. I know you don't want to do that but you have to think about what is best for both you, your dogs and Rosie. I hope you can figure this out and everything is a happy ending. __________________ Jessica Momma and personal assistant to Fynnlie

08-19-2010, 12:55 PM	#8
misslissa YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: canton ohio us Posts: 1,574	i have been in your situation and i had to re-home one of the dogs. she nearly killed my chi mix and i was scared for my other dogs. i know she is in a good home that loves her and that lets me sleep at night. If you wanna talk about it some more or hear some of the advice my trainers gave me you can PM me __________________ Don't say I love you unless you mean it, but if you do say it a lot. People forget.

08-19-2010, 01:19 PM	#9
speleogirl37 ♥ Luv My Lil' M&M ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,572	Awww Brenda I'm so sorry I agree with everyone she would probably be alot better in a home with no other dog. Good luck to you! __________________ Angie Madison Chance Our Future Baby Tatum

08-19-2010, 01:48 PM	#10
brendarash Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Posts: 375	Rosie and Julie I want to thank every one for the info. Brit, yes all of my babies are spayed. I walk them a lot and they go out side every hour or so into the back yard. I am home all day with them so they are use to me staying home with them. I took Julie to the vet this morning they wanted to keep her to watch her. When I picked her up I also got to talk to her behavorest (I know its spelled wrong sorry) The vet and myself sat down to talk about what they found. She said they found a very small scrape mark on the side of her head. I looked that baby over every inch with a flash light last night I saw a bite mark, I also saw and cleaned her ear it was bleeding. She said the only thing was she had a very bad ear infection and it was bleeding. That is strange,The amount of time I spend kissing on ALL of my babies ears I think I would of noticed that. Not to mention she was groomed monthly Aug.1 was the last time. I said are you sure its not from a head injury?no, she said. "I think Rosie was trying to clean her ear". I said no, my son picked her up and she was still in Rosie,s mouth. She was trying to kill her. Well, she said if she wanted to kill her she would of, even if it was 45 seconds. Well, beleive me I am glad they could not find any bite marks but they put her on all kinds of meds for her ear infection.I know I am probably going to have to re home Julie, I just have to get myself in the mind set. I know it is not right to keep her here with me because I love this little girl so darn much and she is just as nuts about me. I have to think of Julie, it is not far, I know. I want to find someone that is home all the time and in time I will find that perfect family.The behavorist said you have to learn to manage them, buy putting them in seperate rooms when I am gone ,crating,ect. If I am here they even sleep lay,sit on the back of the sofa together, with no problems.But if I leave,that is when this happens.Again thank you so much, I Know alot of you say to re home Rosie but 4 different behaviorest all said if you are going to re home It should be Julie. In the past once Rosie starts biting on Julie the other ones join in. This time they did not. I think my son cought her soon enough before any damage was done. Thank goodness.This is the same vet that treated her for a month the last time it happened. I trust them and they are good. Thank you. __________________ Brenda Jackie,Sadie, Rosie, Julie and Sophie my other non yorkie fur babies Romeo Lillie and Sammie, Jessie, Callie, Cloie.