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05-17-2010, 01:20 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: London
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| What's about Teacups??? Hello everybody i am totally new on this website and i am a big fan of yorkshire terriers!!! I'm studying everything i can about them. although i don't have one i really really want to get one when the time is right. I think this website is mostly of people from america, am i right? or is there anyone from england here too? ok to the question: what's the fuss about teacups or no teacups? i have understood already that there's no such thing as teacup yorkshire terrier but then why do i see dog owners - selling their pups - calling them teacups? if they are legit (which i'm fairly convinced they are) then they shouldn't be calling them that if it's not technically correct right? also i see that there is an actual difference in size between them, the "teacups" apparently don't grow much bigger than their puppy size and the standard yorkie grows to be small-medium size dog. i know it complicated, sorry for not making it even clearer. please give me as much information as you can. Thanks to everybody. |
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05-17-2010, 01:38 AM | #2 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California
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| HELLO!!! Welcome to yorkie talk!!! You will love it here, the people here are extremly nice, informative, and supportive!! I must agree with you that yorkie terriers ARE the best !! Anyways to answer your first question, most of the people on this site are from the United States and Perhaps Canada, but im pretty sure your not the only one here from England, and if you are CONGRADUALTIONS, and I welcome you even more. Ok now to the real question. The AKC (which is the American Kennel Club) says that the standard size of an adult yorkie is between 4-7 pounds ( I believe this is correct) and when someone advertises a teacup yorkie they are often times referring to yorkies that are much smaller then that, some can be as small as just 1 pound full grown. The reason there is such a big fuss about these really tiny yorkies is because some breeders bred with the intention of creating really tiny yorkies because for some reason that is what seems to sale really good. the Problem with this however is that these really tiny yorkies can often times be born with issues because of thier size. And alot of the times people are mating really tiny yorkies (like ones that are only 3lb) for the purpose of creating little tiny yorkies, this can cause the momma yorkie (the one who is 3lbs) to potentially lose her life. So to really answer what you asked yes, those tiny yorkies are legit yorkies, and they are tiny however there is no classification of yorkie called teaccup yorkies, there is only standard yorkie. Some yorkies are smaller and some yorkies are bigger but there are no different classes of yorkies. People just feel that the breeders who intentionally breed thier dogs to get small puppies are unethical breeders, who are only after monetary gain, rather then the health and welfare of the pup and its parents. I must add that sometimes a breeder may be breeding to fairly normal sized yorkies and end up with a tiny one whom would be considered the "runt" of the litter these little ones, are often times smaller then the breed standard but that is not because of any doing of the breeder. The puppy (when it was in the womb) just didnt have enough nutrients because perhaps they went to the other pups instead, which stunted the growth of the smaller one. So yea, i really hope this answered your question, and once again WELCOME!! |
05-17-2010, 01:57 AM | #3 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: London
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| hello Jazzybee!!! thank you for such a lovely welcome!!! really kind! good to know that (hopefully) i'm not the only one from england... eekk! i can't be the only one loving sweet yorkies here in england! just not possible! it gave me a shock and a stab in the heart when you said that the mothers could die from this type of breeding, which is stupid! i immediately think of the little puppies without a mother to care for them. brakes my heart! it's quite worrying that those breeders do that - it still not really sinking in - what sort of people must they be?!! also i get your point, about the runt of the group. and i suppose the breeder cannot do anything about it, it's the course of nature, which in that case it's fine... i think. but do those puppies have more health problem still than the others? do those breeders have difficulties selling them? another question that came up, is it wrong to really want one kinda small yorkie? i hope it's not cruel of me. i think it's kind of lovely that you can carry and care for them easily unlike big heavy dogs or the standard yorkie. |
05-17-2010, 01:59 AM | #4 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Goldsboro, NC
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| Welcome! My yorkie is 13 pounds. No...I don't carry him around because of his size, but then I don't step on him or worry about him jumping on and off of things either. I think there are advantages and disadvantages to both. I think you adapt to both. Last edited by Thomas J; 05-17-2010 at 02:03 AM. |
05-17-2010, 02:00 AM | #5 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: London
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| Also Jazzybee i completely forgot!!! you have the most beautiful dog ever!!! i'm so.... so.... enchanted by it. what's its name? I envy you a bit. i would really love to have a yorkie. but it's money that i just don't have, (a student) so i'm scared of thinking what must be the vet bills like here in UK. eeekk! love your darling dog! |
05-17-2010, 02:05 AM | #6 | |
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Many people bought into the 'word' and end up with an average standard little yorkie - which is fine. Some with tinies can tell you - it's kind of scary to have such a little one - I have standard size and that's what I wanted. My Cheri is 5 lbs and to me that IS tiny. | |
05-17-2010, 02:06 AM | #7 | |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California
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Oh thank you very very much!! He is a complete sweetie pie! His name is Shia (Shia La Blu is his whole name) I bought my very first yorkie when i was a student. (about 3 years ago, it wasnt Shia however) anyways I was also a student and my parents didnt want to help me buy my dog. So it almost felt like i went through hell and high water to get the money to pay for my dog. Once i got her (her names was Reeses) I was extremly happy! Yes, Vet bills can be extremly costly but I'd say the first year of ownership is the worst because you have the, checkups and the shots and everything. but after the first year you may only need to bring your yorkie in twice a year. I hope that one day soon you get your little yorkie!! Thank you so much for my little man's compliments, he gives you a kiss on the cheek.. | |
05-17-2010, 02:13 AM | #8 | |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California
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Hello again dear, well with any of the smaller ones (even if they were born under a risky situation) if they are cared for really well as a puppy they may grow to be strong, healthy and happy! The runts of the litter dont always have health issues ans if you get a dog from a good breeder then you will know that the dog was properly cared for and will most likly not have any issues. Sometimes what is really has to do is with the parents that the breeder uses, and if the parents are really good breeding candiates.. Its just that in a few cases the smaller ones are under developed and require the breeder to pay extra attention to them. It is absoultely NOT wrong to want a small yorkie, I think alot of people desire smaller yorkies (and i must admit i am like that alittle) My first dog Reeses ended up being 7 lbs which is fine with me because i love her just the same but my dog now he is only going to be 3lbs full grown and he is so cute, he's the one in my icon. I dont think you should feel bad for wanting a smaller yorkie, just be careful from whom you get the dog from because as i said earlier, they often times can have problems. Shia, he doesnt have any problems at all! and he came from a great breeder!! | |
05-17-2010, 02:28 AM | #9 |
Bailey's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NC
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| Hello and welcome to YorkieTalk. You've come to the right place to learn all about Yorkies. Bailey weighs 9 lbs and Scooter (RIP) weighed only 6 and I personally wouldn't have one that weighs less than 5. Check out this site.. it should answer a lot of your questions. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
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05-17-2010, 02:37 AM | #10 | |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: London
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but here is a really believable breeder on you tube that on the last minute of the film calls her pups teacups, and then i changed my mind about her. tell me what you think, legit or NOT legit? i have never had a dog of my own, i have never taken care of any animal of my own. so it seems like a hug step to buy a yorkie, which i might not be ready for. financially most probably. am i wrong or am i getting the impression that you got to be financially secure (in other words, well off) to own a puppy? people have their own house, plenty of money to take them to classes and training and so on. thanks for the feedback. love your god too! really charming.... i love all yorkies!
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05-17-2010, 02:46 AM | #11 |
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| Hi and welcome! This site is the best! My Roxie is about 7 pounds and to me she is tiny! I don't think I would do well with one smaller than that! I can still pick her up and carry her, but she's not so tiny that I worry about her getting hurt when jumping off the couch or anything.
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05-17-2010, 02:54 AM | #12 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: London
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| amazing! what a welcome! hello everybody!!! i am so please! everybody is literarily JUMPING to say hello! now that's what i call a COMMUNITY!!!! yorkie lovers ROCK! thank you for making me feel better about liking the smaller yorkies, but i think i really just love yorkies! but it's not just about the size, it's about if you bond with the dog! i believe that the puppy should chose you as much as you chose him/her! i don't know how to take care of a pet, i never had one of my own to learn. and there seems to be heck of a lot of things you need to take into account - not just the vet bills of course - but ways of training them, being a good leader/owner and always being aware of the yorkies safety. wow! is it recommended for a first time owner to have a yorkie? do you have to be rich? BTW, i hate those names: "tiny" teacups" and especially "micro"! really hate it, it sounds terrible. as if you are asking for that dog to be shrinked and mutated
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05-17-2010, 03:07 AM | #13 |
Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member | Good for you ! You're off to a good start and when you said size should not be the deciding factor - you are so right ! Health is. Keep asking questions - there's an answer here for everything but you're already ahead of the game by being here - there's lots of people that will guide you to a good breeder. Many of us didn't have the luxury of this site when searching - we may have DONE research but like me - it was years ago and I now know I chose a bad breeder - I was lucky - I have very healthy girls - but a bad breeder all the same...it happens alot of us - so keep asking those questions.......just knowing the red flags is a good start and you already do |
05-17-2010, 04:20 AM | #14 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SMITHFIELD,OHIO,USA
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| Welcome to the group! I have three Yorkies named LexiLou(6 pounds) Rambo(11 pounds) And Charlee(4 pounds). Charlee is very small but she was the runt of the litter. This is the best group to learn very good info! |
05-17-2010, 04:35 AM | #15 | |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: London
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thank you! so could you tell me what makes a breeder a BAD breeder? how do you know that they are not conning you? saying that they have got heath certificate and authorized, pictures from birth and full guarantee. i mean, i hear that the dog mills breeders are getting smarter! they take pictures of the puppies in a fake home with fake parents, but they actually come from caged little cells and badly treated and cared for! it's scary! as soon as they call yorkies teacups or tiny's does that make them automatically dodgy? what makes a good breeder and do you keep in contact with them throughout the dogs' life?
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