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SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 04:55 AM

Hi guys!
Well ever since I got my baby MuShu, we have been tried as hard as we could to potty train him. He pees on the pad 90% of the time at 6 months old. Of course there's always the occasional accident. My concern is how my mom deals with the accidents, if I don't see it happen.

After MuShu peed on the floor, which may be up to an hour after it happened, my mom scolds him. She picks him up by the back of his neck (I know it doesn't hurt), hits him in the face, pushes half of his face into his mess, then practically throws him into his ex-pen and sometimes hit him or yells. Then she makes me clean the mess.
I almost cry every time I see this happen. He is such a small little thing, and she thinks it's okay to hit him (Even a big dog shouldn't be hit!). I mean, I would understand a tiny tap on the nose that only causes discomfort, while he still remembers his mess, but not an hour after. That has to be animal abuse right??

What do you think I should do!? I can't stand to see my baby locked up in his ex-pen in the corner for hours on end. My mom won't let me take him out. we have fought about this a numerous amount of times, and now I'm just out of ideas.

Can I get some opinions on this?

(Mind you, I'm only 15, if that matters...)

Bianca · 04-03-2010, 05:00 AM

In my opinion YES it is animal abuse

and I am so sorry you have to witness this

She needs to be educated on the proper way to handle this situation. Your baby is not safe in this current environment .
If you mom doesn't change her ways I would rehome MUSHU

I know that sounds harsh , but this little one IMO is in danger.
Again, I am so sorry your in this situation

SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 05:03 AM

I tried calmly educating her on what we should do when he pees on the floor but she replies with "He won't learn any other way!!"

Yes, I have considered rehoming my baby. It's so sad..

Bianca · 04-03-2010, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyyLovee

I tried calmly educating her on what we should do when he pees on the floor but she replies with "He won't learn any other way!!"

Yes, I have considered rehoming my baby. It's so sad..

It is sad and my heart breaks for you. I am so so sorry your upset and hurt . I don't know what to say except MuShu needs to be your number one priority right now , he's well being depends on it.

SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 05:07 AM

I'm hoping that he gets the hang of potty training ASAP.

We are getting MuShu neutered in a couple of weeks, and I'm wondering if potty training will be easier when he is neutered. Do you happen to know the facts on this?

tjdmom · 04-03-2010, 05:13 AM

I'm sorry your mom is treating him this way! How sad! Keep in mind that he is not having accidents because he wants to be difficult or he isn't smart enough. He just doesn't understand. It's not his fault but the fault of the humans in charge when he has an accident. It must be so frustrating for you and it certainly is frustrating for me as your mom is not here to yell at. You are only 15 but you know that it is not the correct way to handle things. Are you taking him out plenty of times to go potty? I know when you are 15, there are lots of other distractions but I would make it a priority to get him house broken.
There is a book out there called how to housebreak a dog in 7 days. Maybe you could try some of those techniques? I'm sure your mom is probably just frustrated but maybe you could explain to her that her reactions are only going to make things worse. He does not understand and you need to find a better way of communicating with him....

Lovetodream88 · 04-03-2010, 05:15 AM

You have to remember that your the only voice you dog has. Is he acting afraid of hands and things yet? That probably is going to happen. It sounds like animal abuse and I am so sorry you are having to deal with this.

red98vett · 04-03-2010, 05:16 AM

wow. You could direct her to this site AND have your post deleted and start a new one for her to read - but that's def not the way to handle any pet - ever.....

She's not only hurting this puppy but he may never train for fear of being abused....they don't understand this kind of human behavior and it's wrong on every level

I'm sorry for you and your poor puppy....your mom needs to realize that hitting animals is abuse....I kind of agree with Bianca & don't mean to sound harsh but maybe you all need to find a new home if she can't handle accidents before this puppy is seriously hurt ?

You're young and good for you knowing the difference between abuse and training - you're in a hard situaton - I feel for you

SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 05:18 AM

I take him out 10-15 minutes after he eats, right after play time, right when he wakes up. And every hour or so if none of those happen. I make sure he won't pee on the floor.

Honestly I think that potty training will go slower with this kind of approach...because when he pees in the correct spot, he looks at me with those scared eyes, wondering if he did the right thing.

SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

wow. You could direct her to this site AND have your post deleted and start a new one for her to read - but that's def not the way to handle any pet - ever.....

She's not only hurting this puppy but he may never train for fear of being abused....they don't understand this kind of human behavior and it's wrong on every level

I'm sorry for you and your poor puppy....your mom needs to realize that hitting animals is abuse....I kind of agree with Bianca & don't mean to sound harsh but maybe you all need to find a new home if she can't handle accidents before this puppy is seriously hurt ?

You're young and good for you knowing the difference between abuse and training - you're in a hard situaton - I feel for you

Thanks for the support.

I think I might have to consider rehoming MuShu. Umm do you happen to know if potty training is a little bit easier after a dog is neutered?

Jellybears · 04-03-2010, 05:20 AM

Sorry it's your mom - but - I wouldn't be letting her near MY dog. That is abuse - and you should tell her that you posted on here and what people think of her treatment

If I saw anyone doing that to Mr. Darcy they would certainly hear from me what I thought of them

- Why would you even let her hit him??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????? Maybe you should consider even keeping him your yourself - I hate hearing things like this.

red98vett · 04-03-2010, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyyLovee

I tried calmly educating her on what we should do when he pees on the floor but she replies with "He won't learn any other way!!"

Yes, I have considered rehoming my baby. It's so sad..

I posted already but just saw this (above) and want to tell you - you're very mature for your age - neutering may help a little but if she keeps doing what she's doing you're going to have a very fearful dog and he may never train

I can tell you love him.....what your mom is doing isn't love...
I wish you all the best....this IS sad.

SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellybears

Sorry it's your mom - but - I wouldn't be letting her near MY dog. That is abuse - and you should tell her that you posted on here and what people think of her treatment

If I saw anyone doing that to Mr. Darcy they would certainly hear from me what I thought of them

I think telling her that she is insane for doing this might be what she needs.

SpicyyLovee · 04-03-2010, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I posted already but just saw this (above) and want to tell you - you're very mature for your age

I can tell you love your dog.......what your mom is doing isn't love...
I wish you all the best....this IS sad.

Thanks(:

And what's odd about this whole thing, is that she acts fine when he's obedient. Like the only time she will abuse his is when he had an accident. They play like nothing ever happened!

johnnyt112 · 04-03-2010, 05:26 AM

I am so sorry that your mom is doing that to MuShu. This type of treatment may have adverse effects on the puppy. Her is a link to Purina's website for puppies.

New Puppy Care: Taking Care of Your Puppy | Purina.com

Here is info from Purina.

What are some key tips for housebreaking a puppy?

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What are some key tips for housebreaking a puppy?

Listen

The secret to housebreaking a puppy is to catch him in the act of doing things right and then praise him extravagantly. Pups generally want to please.
To start, take your pup out often - first thing in the morning, after he eats a meal, after a play session, and every couple hours otherwise. Soon a routine will emerge. Be patient. Young pups don’t have the muscle control to hold things in, so it’s up to you to figure out the timing.
To keep stress levels low, contain the pup in an easy cleanup zone until he begins to get the idea. Don’t reprimand him unless you catch him in the act of doing something wrong, and even then, make it nothing more than a firm "no.” In six to eight weeks, your pup will learn what you want, and be happy to oblige.
– Dr. Larry McDaniel, DVM for the “Purina® Animal Instincts” Podcast Series

Please try to get your mom to understand that she is using the old way of house breaking. Showing the puppy love and understanding will go a long way in helping the puppy mature and is the best way to teach the puppy.

04-03-2010, 04:55 AM	#1
SpicyyLovee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 109	My mom and I aren't on the same page... Hi guys! Well ever since I got my baby MuShu, we have been tried as hard as we could to potty train him. He pees on the pad 90% of the time at 6 months old. Of course there's always the occasional accident. My concern is how my mom deals with the accidents, if I don't see it happen. After MuShu peed on the floor, which may be up to an hour after it happened, my mom scolds him. She picks him up by the back of his neck (I know it doesn't hurt), hits him in the face, pushes half of his face into his mess, then practically throws him into his ex-pen and sometimes hit him or yells. Then she makes me clean the mess. I almost cry every time I see this happen. He is such a small little thing, and she thinks it's okay to hit him (Even a big dog shouldn't be hit!). I mean, I would understand a tiny tap on the nose that only causes discomfort, while he still remembers his mess, but not an hour after. That has to be animal abuse right?? What do you think I should do!? I can't stand to see my baby locked up in his ex-pen in the corner for hours on end. My mom won't let me take him out. we have fought about this a numerous amount of times, and now I'm just out of ideas. Can I get some opinions on this? (Mind you, I'm only 15, if that matters...) __________________ My furbaby MuShu!

04-03-2010, 05:03 AM	#3
SpicyyLovee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 109	I tried calmly educating her on what we should do when he pees on the floor but she replies with "He won't learn any other way!!" Yes, I have considered rehoming my baby. It's so sad.. __________________ My furbaby MuShu!

04-03-2010, 05:07 AM	#5
SpicyyLovee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 109	I'm hoping that he gets the hang of potty training ASAP. We are getting MuShu neutered in a couple of weeks, and I'm wondering if potty training will be easier when he is neutered. Do you happen to know the facts on this? __________________ My furbaby MuShu!

04-03-2010, 05:15 AM	#7
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,247	You have to remember that your the only voice you dog has. Is he acting afraid of hands and things yet? That probably is going to happen. It sounds like animal abuse and I am so sorry you are having to deal with this. __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!

04-03-2010, 05:16 AM	#8
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	wow. You could direct her to this site AND have your post deleted and start a new one for her to read - but that's def not the way to handle any pet - ever..... She's not only hurting this puppy but he may never train for fear of being abused....they don't understand this kind of human behavior and it's wrong on every level I'm sorry for you and your poor puppy....your mom needs to realize that hitting animals is abuse....I kind of agree with Bianca & don't mean to sound harsh but maybe you all need to find a new home if she can't handle accidents before this puppy is seriously hurt ? You're young and good for you knowing the difference between abuse and training - you're in a hard situaton - I feel for you __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

04-03-2010, 05:00 AM	#2
Bianca No Longer a Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Posts: 761	In my opinion YES it is animal abuse and I am so sorry you have to witness this She needs to be educated on the proper way to handle this situation. Your baby is not safe in this current environment . If you mom doesn't change her ways I would rehome MUSHU I know that sounds harsh , but this little one IMO is in danger. Again, I am so sorry your in this situation

04-03-2010, 05:13 AM	#6
tjdmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny Posts: 5,847	I'm sorry your mom is treating him this way! How sad! Keep in mind that he is not having accidents because he wants to be difficult or he isn't smart enough. He just doesn't understand. It's not his fault but the fault of the humans in charge when he has an accident. It must be so frustrating for you and it certainly is frustrating for me as your mom is not here to yell at. You are only 15 but you know that it is not the correct way to handle things. Are you taking him out plenty of times to go potty? I know when you are 15, there are lots of other distractions but I would make it a priority to get him house broken. There is a book out there called how to housebreak a dog in 7 days. Maybe you could try some of those techniques? I'm sure your mom is probably just frustrated but maybe you could explain to her that her reactions are only going to make things worse. He does not understand and you need to find a better way of communicating with him....

04-03-2010, 05:18 AM	#9
SpicyyLovee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 109	I take him out 10-15 minutes after he eats, right after play time, right when he wakes up. And every hour or so if none of those happen. I make sure he won't pee on the floor. Honestly I think that potty training will go slower with this kind of approach...because when he pees in the correct spot, he looks at me with those scared eyes, wondering if he did the right thing. __________________ My furbaby MuShu!

04-03-2010, 05:20 AM	#11
Jellybears YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MacTier Ontario Canada Posts: 365	Sorry it's your mom - but - I wouldn't be letting her near MY dog. That is abuse - and you should tell her that you posted on here and what people think of her treatment If I saw anyone doing that to Mr. Darcy they would certainly hear from me what I thought of them - Why would you even let her hit him??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????? Maybe you should consider even keeping him your yourself - I hate hearing things like this. __________________ Mr. Darcy Miss Lizzie Toffee in Heaven at 15-1/2 - still sadly missed 1993-Christmas 2008 Last edited by Jellybears; 04-03-2010 at 05:23 AM.

04-03-2010, 05:26 AM	#15
johnnyt112 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. louis, MO Posts: 65	I am so sorry that your mom is doing that to MuShu. This type of treatment may have adverse effects on the puppy. Her is a link to Purina's website for puppies. New Puppy Care: Taking Care of Your Puppy \| Purina.com Here is info from Purina. What are some key tips for housebreaking a puppy? http://www.purina.com/i/all/hdr_icn_audio.gif (940KB) What are some key tips for housebreaking a puppy? Listen The secret to housebreaking a puppy is to catch him in the act of doing things right and then praise him extravagantly. Pups generally want to please. To start, take your pup out often - first thing in the morning, after he eats a meal, after a play session, and every couple hours otherwise. Soon a routine will emerge. Be patient. Young pups don’t have the muscle control to hold things in, so it’s up to you to figure out the timing. To keep stress levels low, contain the pup in an easy cleanup zone until he begins to get the idea. Don’t reprimand him unless you catch him in the act of doing something wrong, and even then, make it nothing more than a firm "no.” In six to eight weeks, your pup will learn what you want, and be happy to oblige. – Dr. Larry McDaniel, DVM for the “Purina® Animal Instincts” Podcast Series Please try to get your mom to understand that she is using the old way of house breaking. Showing the puppy love and understanding will go a long way in helping the puppy mature and is the best way to teach the puppy.