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Old 01-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #1
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Icon2 Is this really ok?

I am really concern.

Poppy went for 1st vet visit.
She got 2 shots from the breeder (breeder got the vaccines from her vet and does the shots herself)
However, our local vet said she has to re-do the 2 jabs again cos it was not given by the actual vet.
And clarified with my breeder and she was so upset! She mentioned the only jab that needs to be given by a certified vet is Rabies.
I am so sad she has to go thru all the jabs again.
I asked if it is ok for her to take so many and vet says it's ok.
I would like to seek assurance/advice from all of you here.
Is it really ok?
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my vet took my breeders shots and it was across state line, sounds like I would call a different vet if you have the option. As far as safety don't know.
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A lot of breeders give their own shots to help keep expenses down. I didn't have any issue with my vet accepting Jacie's. Unless you have a history with this vet and just really like him, I think I'd try another vet.
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How old was she when she got her first vaccines? Breeders who let their puppies go too soon (before 12 weeks) also give them their vaccines too soon. Puppies get antibodies from nursing and they will block the effectiveness of vaccinations given before 9-10 weeks so they have to be repeated. Also, the last set of vaccinations needs to be given around 18 weeks full full immunity.

In one study of a cross section of different puppies the age at which they were able to respond to a vaccine and develop protection covered a wide period of time. At six weeks of age, 25% of the puppies could be immunized. At 9 weeks of age, 40% of the puppies were able to respond to the vaccine. The number increased to 60% by 16 weeks, and by 18 weeks of age, 95% of the puppies could be immunized.

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Old 01-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #5
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Thanks flafox67 and tarczely for the replies.

The vet said it's the protocol.
I do like the vet as she is very patient and knows quite abit on Yorkies.
So maybe I will go to another vet seek second opinion and see how it goes.

Thanks once again
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If your puppy has had all her necessary puppy vaccines you should not allow your vet to re-vaccinate her. There have been new vaccine protocols released in recent years and it is possible to over-vaccinate. Also, you don't want to get all of their vaccines at the same time, especially the rabies vaccine.

Read the article linked to for more information.

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Laws are different in every state, but in Kansas, the only shot that must be given by the vet is Rabies. If your breeder gave the shots and your vet will not accept them, I would question him. I will say, some vets are against and don't trust some manufactures of vaccines for whatever reason. Like the ones bought at feed stores. Maybe the brand given is missing a specific vaccine that your vet prefers to guard against as there are many variations of vaccines available. I am questioning why you feel you have to accept this from him anyways, because vaccines (other than rabies) are relatively optional on the owner's part so if you don't want them agian, why do you have to have them again?? I guess I am asking why this is his choice and not yours. Maybe you just need to talk this through with him, he could have a very good reason for why he feels the need to re do the vaccines already given.
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How old was she when she got her first vaccines? Breeders who let their puppies go too soon (before 12 weeks) also give them their vaccines too soon. Puppies get antibodies from nursing and they will block the effectiveness of vaccinations given before 9-10 weeks so they have to be repeated. Also, the last set of vaccinations needs to be given around 18 weeks full full immunity.

In one study of a cross section of different puppies the age at which they were able to respond to a vaccine and develop protection covered a wide period of time. At six weeks of age, 25% of the puppies could be immunized. At 9 weeks of age, 40% of the puppies were able to respond to the vaccine. The number increased to 60% by 16 weeks, and by 18 weeks of age, 95% of the puppies could be immunized.

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Wow Ladymom,
Thanks for sharing that!
I had Poppy at her 12th week and she already had her 2 shots.
Her first shot was given at 8 weeks.
So maybe that's why she had to re-take the jabs.
Thanks for the information
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If your puppy has had all her necessary puppy vaccines you should not allow your vet to re-vaccinate her. There have been new vaccine protocols released in recent years and it is possible to over-vaccinate. Also, you don't want to get all of their vaccines at the same time, especially the rabies vaccine.

Read the article linked to for more information.

W Jean Dodds Vaccine Protocol VACCINATION PROTOCOLS
Thanks for the advice and link.
I am seeking second opinion.
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Wow Ladymom,
Thanks for sharing that!
I had Poppy at her 12th week and she already had her 2 shots.
Her first shot was given at 8 weeks.
So maybe that's why she had to re-take the jabs.
Thanks for the information
Your vet may just be very cautious and aware that her first vaccinations may not have taken because they were given too soon.

Over vaccinating is very dangerous and I definitely recommend Dr. Dodd's protocol. You must make sure they are properly vaccinated as puppies, though, then boosted at one year, before you can do the three year protocol.

Since your breeder keep her until she was 12 weeks, it's a shame she didn't wait another week or two to give the first vaccinations. Perhaps you can send her the link to Dr. Dodd's protocol that jencar98 posted so she can delay vaccinating future litters until 9-10 weeks?
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Laws are different in every state, but in Kansas, the only shot that must be given by the vet is Rabies. If your breeder gave the shots and your vet will not accept them, I would question him. I will say, some vets are against and don't trust some manufactures of vaccines for whatever reason. Like the ones bought at feed stores. Maybe the brand given is missing a specific vaccine that your vet prefers to guard against as there are many variations of vaccines available. I am questioning why you feel you have to accept this from him anyways, because vaccines (other than rabies) are relatively optional on the owner's part so if you don't want them agian, why do you have to have them again?? I guess I am asking why this is his choice and not yours. Maybe you just need to talk this through with him, he could have a very good reason for why he feels the need to re do the vaccines already given.
Hi Cha Cha,

Sorry, guess I am really very new to all these! That's why I came in here and seek advices.
I did ask her why and she said that these jabs had to be given by a certified vet not by a breeder. That's why I called my breeder after the visit and she said that she had been doing this and never heard of her puppies getting re-vaccined.
I will seek 2nd opinion.
Thanks once again, will definitely keep in mind.
I think now I should really seek second opinion.
Thanks for the advice
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Your vet may just be very cautious and aware that her first vaccinations may not have taken because they were given too soon.

Over vaccinating is very dangerous and I definitely recommend Dr. Dodd's protocol. You must make sure they are properly vaccinated as puppies, though, then boosted at one year, before you can do the three year protocol.

Since your breeder keep her until she was 12 weeks, it's a shame she didn't wait another week or two to give the first vaccinations. Perhaps you can send her the link to Dr. Dodd's protocol that jencar98 posted so she can delay vaccinating future litters until 9-10 weeks?
Yes Ladymom,
I had emailed her the link.
Currently communicating with her as well.
I do hope further owners will not encounter such problems again.
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