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Old 12-09-2009, 05:51 AM   #1
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Omg New puppy aggressive with first Yorkie! Suggestions??

Hello!

Yesterday, we brought home our new puppy (Sampson) which is a little boy. He is young at only 9 1/2 weeks. I did want to wait until after Christmas to bring him home when he would be older, but....anyway....that didn't happen.....and that's another story!

He appears to be just the sweetest little thing until he is around my 10-month old female yorkie. This little ball of fluff charges toward my Sophie girl and growls, nips, and tries to bite her.

I am trying to introduce them slowly as I work on crate training Sampson. Sophie is free to roam and wonder most of the day. Sampson's crate is in our living room where he can see Sophie and they have touched noses, etc. through the crate. Both way their tails and appear to be happy to see one another.

When I have Sampson out to play and potty train I place Sophie in an Xpen. Then for about fifteen minutes or so, three to four times a day I will bring in Sophie so that the two of them can start to get acquainted without the barrier of the crate.

This is when things turn a little ugly. Sampson will charge her, bite and growl and then it turns into a little chasing match with Sophie trying to get away. I don't let him get away with this as I don't want him to think that this is good behavior. Sophie is scared to death when he is not in his crate.

What would you suggest?

Is his aggression an early sign that this pair will not work well together and perhaps he should go back to the breeder? I know that he has only been home a little over a day so I don't want to give up too early...but I don't want to wait too long either if he is not going to work out and I always have to have the in separate places.

Help!

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Old 12-09-2009, 06:37 AM   #2
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LOL, welcome to my world! Only my dogs are 10 weeks and 2 years. Puppies are just very very playful and yes they do get pretty darn mean. Thier little teeth are so so sharp! My older dog, Moka, is pretty submissive and allows more than what I think she should, but when Mylee, the baby, gets really mean Moka will let her know and put her in her place and that has been going well thus far. Like you, I don't leave them together unattended yet. This is all part of figuring out where their place and their pecking order. Sounds to me like you are doing a great job. Pictures?
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This is just playing. I know it looks pretty viscious at times. The more they are together the better. I would only keep them seperated when you can't be around to monitor them. It is better to let them establish their own pecking order.
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I'm sure this post won't make me any friends......... but here goes.

You've had the new puppy 1 day and already are thinking about returning him?

You shouldn't have a pet..........

My 2 cents......
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:17 PM   #5
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Wink Good thing I'm a big girl! I can take it!

Well John... I respect your opinion. I am a big girl and I can take your less than kind remark.

I don't want to return the puppy and I am not planning on returning the puppy! Especially after only having him one (now two days)! I guess my wording left some things for interpretation. That's my fault.

Since my first yorkie was and is not aggressive in any manner nor have I ever had two yorkies at the same time....I was just wondering if this aggression was "normal" for a puppy toward an older yorkie or if he really had some aggression issues. It would not have surprised me if my older yorkie would be the one that turned somewhat aggressive having been there first and trying to claim her territory but not the other way around. That surprised me.

I was and am trying to look out and do what is best for both dogs. I in no way want my current yorkie's (Sophie) world to be turned so upside down that she is constantly miserable and lives in fear because of the new puppy. In addition, to be fair to the new puppy, if the majority opinion on YT thought that him showing aggression now meant that he would continue to be aggressive with Sophie via their experience, I would want him to have a chance in a home where he could be the "only" puppy thus be happy in his world as well and not feel that he had to be separated all of the time.

I value the opinions of the senior yorkie owners (even yours) and thought that perhaps that someone who has had a little aggressor would have some life experience to share. Also, I didn't know if him showing aggression now at this early age might be an indication that he would continue to be aggressive.

I am neither a quitter nor an irresponsible dog owner. I am simply trying to see if anyone else has had the same problem - did it get better, did it get worse, did it remain the same, do they have suggestions, or could they relay their experience.

Thank you to those who have indicated that this is just puppy play and that it will probably get better and to carry on.

To John - sorry for not wording my post to make my position perfectly clear. I do not want to return the puppy.
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I think it'll work out. It just takes time & patience.
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My Missy is just over a year old and I just got a new puppy too. Dora can be a bit too rough with Missy for my liking but I try to let them sort it out. After Dora has been hanging off of Missy's beard for a few mins straight, then I will step in. I will also encourage Missy to stick up for herself, and it works. She then gets up the courage to put Dora in her place. Missy is just too darn nice, and let's Dora get away with alot. In time, I'm sure they will work it out. I agree with what someone else said. Have them be around each other all the time (except when you can't supervise), they have to establish their pecking order. I'm sure things will work out. Puppies just need to learn their role, and it's up to you and your older yorkie to teach the pup. Good Luck!
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This is so weird because I have the exact opposite of your situation. I just got a new yorkie puppy (male) today and he is timid and cute as ever. I can tell he wants to play with my 1 year old yorkie (female) but she just gnarls and barks at him while he does his best to hide away and whimpers.
The first time she did that, she just let go some barks and I didn't try to intervene.

But the second time she started getting rough and very mean so I intervened and separated them.

I don't know why she feels like she has to bark and gnarl at the new puppy, my husband thinks she may be territorial. Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated. I know they would love to be future playmates, I just hope it doesn't turn disastrous.
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I have a boy that is 2 and a girl that is 9 weeks and she does the exact same thing to him. He nows goes with the flow but if he gets tired of her biting on him, he lets her know and she backs off. I make sure I watch them at all times when they aren't in their crates but I believe that behavior is normal. I also thought that I was going to have to place her in a different home because I didn't want my older yorkie to be uncomfortable and I didn't want the younger yorkie to be with the wrong home; however it worked out so they could be buddies. I am sure that your babies will be great buddies soon. Good Luck and Stay Encouraged!
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I think your oldest is just establishing himself as the 'alpha' from day 1. While I would not allow biting, try not to intervene too much if you can help it - provided no one is actually getting hurt.

My Westie would stand over top of Lucy (yorkie) and growl . . and it was very scary. She would yelp like she was dying - but he never, ever bit her. He was just showing her that he was boss.

That settled down quickly but only AFTER we quit correcting him (unless he went overboard) AND we tried to pay more attention to our oldest than our new puppy. This let him know that he was still 'top dog' and had not lost his status in our home. This helped him with jealousy and they get along fine now. We are still careful about feeding them separately though.

It took about 3 weeks; and YES, I too wondered if I should return the pup for her sake! Now, I don't know what they would do without each other.

So, don't feel guilty! Keep your patience and keep us posted.
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Well John... I respect your opinion. I am a big girl and I can take your less than kind remark.

I don't want to return the puppy and I am not planning on returning the puppy! Especially after only having him one (now two days)! I guess my wording left some things for interpretation. That's my fault.

Since my first yorkie was and is not aggressive in any manner nor have I ever had two yorkies at the same time....I was just wondering if this aggression was "normal" for a puppy toward an older yorkie or if he really had some aggression issues. It would not have surprised me if my older yorkie would be the one that turned somewhat aggressive having been there first and trying to claim her territory but not the other way around. That surprised me.

I was and am trying to look out and do what is best for both dogs. I in no way want my current yorkie's (Sophie) world to be turned so upside down that she is constantly miserable and lives in fear because of the new puppy. In addition, to be fair to the new puppy, if the majority opinion on YT thought that him showing aggression now meant that he would continue to be aggressive with Sophie via their experience, I would want him to have a chance in a home where he could be the "only" puppy thus be happy in his world as well and not feel that he had to be separated all of the time.

I value the opinions of the senior yorkie owners (even yours) and thought that perhaps that someone who has had a little aggressor would have some life experience to share. Also, I didn't know if him showing aggression now at this early age might be an indication that he would continue to be aggressive.

I am neither a quitter nor an irresponsible dog owner. I am simply trying to see if anyone else has had the same problem - did it get better, did it get worse, did it remain the same, do they have suggestions, or could they relay their experience.

Thank you to those who have indicated that this is just puppy play and that it will probably get better and to carry on.

To John - sorry for not wording my post to make my position perfectly clear. I do not want to return the puppy.
Well said! I have the same problem...except mine's a girl and she seems to be shaking a lot. We have had her for one week and are considering rehoming her because we don't want her to live in fear. So I understand your stance. My male yorkie who is 1.5 months older is 1 pounds bigger...and he seems to be too aggressive towards her (in my opinion) but I don't know if that's how they play...I've been youtubing and looking around to see if that's normal...Does your female yorkie yelp when they play? mine do...just wondering if we are in the same boat...
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