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Old 09-26-2005, 11:48 AM   #1
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Well, my girlfriend and I's 4 month old Teacup Yorkie (ty) was rushed to the hospital last night. Ty was Slobbery, Disoriented, Running into the wall and unable to respond to his name or anything. Ty has done this before and has always been slobbery so i know he came from the breeder like this. The Vet has informed us that based on the symptoms and prelilminary blood tests that it is most likely the cause of a Liver Shunt. They are currently Fasting him and doing the acid test today with results provided to us tomorrow sometime. I am currently wondering about this symptom and wether it is Genetic and what ground we have against the Breeder. We are already into the Emergancy Vet bill for $1000. The Vet has given us 2 options of Surgury or having him Put down. From what ive read on here in the short while is that there are diets to control this and medicine?? Is this a option?? If it is 100% positive on a Liver Shunt, then we are prepared to have him put down as i dont want to see the lil guy suffer anymore. But i certainly do not want to lose him if there are other ways to deal with this.

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Old 09-26-2005, 12:33 PM   #2
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I'm so sorry. I do not know much about liver shunt but do know there are different types. Sometimes it can be controlled with a special diet or fixed with a simple operation. There are organizations that might be able to help, either financially or by taking the puppy and getting the surgery done. Fanny Mae Liver Shunt Fund or United Yorkie Rescue are two that I know.
Did the breeder give you a health guarantee?
There will be others here that will be of more help but I will be thinking of Ty and praying for his recovery.
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Old 09-26-2005, 01:42 PM   #3
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Thanks, i am unsure of the garuntee as my girlfriend handled all the paperwork and the dealings with the breeder. If there was none then do we have any legal rights?? If there was one, what type of reimbursment should we expect and be firm on a agreement too??

We have heard from the Vet and he has told us that when Ty was admitted he had a bloodsuger count of about 60 and that we should expect the blood test results tomorrow afternoon'ish.
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Definantly check the paperwork. Some breeders have a health guarantee up to a certain amount of time. Also I beleive that there is a test that can be done earlier some breeders get before selling their pups. I hope it works out for you and your little guy! He's a cutie!
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There are different kinds of shunt and differing severity of the problem. You can use the search on this site to look for info from other threads on this subject or www.vetinfo.com has an explanation. The breeder needs to be notified immediately so she does not breed those dogs again. This is a genetic problem. She should be liable for vet bills up to the purchase price of the pup. Many breeders do not honor this and will only offer a replacement pup...The guarantee will let you know how much recourse you have. Good luck.
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The breeder has already been notified and a full report is going to be faxed to them and thier vet. They have offered another puppy already, but my GF does not want another dog, and personally i understand and would not want to put myself in the position that we might have to make, Ever again! I have spent the last 4hrs of my life on the search button doing what research i can and have learned quite a bit. Thank you all for the fast responces, and please dont let the helpful info stop coming.

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Poor little fellow I sure hope he can make it through this. I don't know anything about liver shunt. Best wishes to you and your friend.
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I am sooo sorry to hear your puppy might have a liver shunt. My family and I have gone through this ordeal with our Yorkie, Tucker. He is a very large Yorkie, and no one suspected a liver shunt, but he had the EXACT same symptoms as yours. Most of the time, surgery is the only way, the defect is genetic. But we were very fortunate with Tucker, and are able to maintain him with medication and diet. I have posted before concerning his shunt if you would like to read it. Also, I have a link that will give you some good info. Keep us posted, and good luck

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16530

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If it is 100% positive on a Liver Shunt, then we are prepared to have him put down as i dont want to see the lil guy suffer anymore.
Before you do anything drastic, always get a 2nd opinion, and if the lil' pup can do the surgery and survive, you might ask if anyone would want to rescue him first. Just additional options for you. Ultimately, your pup, your decision...
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Can you really mess up a bile acid test that would warrent a 2nd opinion? Dont get me wrong, if the option for surgery presents a promising outlook everything will be done in my power to see that this dog recieves it, but i have prepared myself for the worse, so only way things change, is if they take a turn for the better.
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Is there anything i can do as far as making 100% sure that the breeder does not breed the puppies parents again? Notify AKC or any other orginzations, if so what ones? I have a feeling things might get nasty between the breeder and I so if he is not willing to take responsibility for this, then he probably wont stop breeding them.

No word on lil Ty yet as of 8:45am EST, we are expecting a call from the vet anytime now. ::fingers crossed::
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Is there anything i can do as far as making 100% sure that the breeder does not breed the puppies parents again? Notify AKC or any other orginzations, if so what ones? I have a feeling things might get nasty between the breeder and I so if he is not willing to take responsibility for this, then he probably wont stop breeding them.

No word on lil Ty yet as of 8:45am EST, we are expecting a call from the vet anytime now. ::fingers crossed::
In that situation, if the breeder refuses to stop breeding a known defective pairing... I would let the AKC know though they will probably not be able to do much. I would also alert the local kennel clubs and breed clubs and post the facts of the situation and information regarding an irresponsible breeder here and anywhere possible to alert people to the fact that this is not a person to buy a puppy from. If you have the pedigree information on your pup it would be a kindness to share the names of the dogs involved, to help others that may have dogs they are considering breeding from the same lines. If you need help finding the links to local organizations, post your location on here and we will find them for you.
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In that situation, if the breeder refuses to stop breeding a known defective pairing... I would let the AKC know though they will probably not be able to do much. I would also alert the local kennel clubs and breed clubs and post the facts of the situation and information regarding an irresponsible breeder here and anywhere possible to alert people to the fact that this is not a person to buy a puppy from. If you have the pedigree information on your pup it would be a kindness to share the names of the dogs involved, to help others that may have dogs they are considering breeding from the same lines. If you need help finding the links to local organizations, post your location on here and we will find them for you.
Thank you for your help. I am located in Nashua, NH. We got the puppy from a Kennel out in Arizona (ill keep the name to myself for now as i dont want to slander them if they decide to own up to this) They sent us AKC registration info, so i would guess they are affiliated with them or promote them or whatever.

Puppy Update:

Vet called to let us know that Ty's acid test came back at a level of 60 ... .......The surgery will be around $1500 and we are approved for a interest free Care Card loan to pay for it, so we are going to go ahead with it, provided the ultrasound shows where the shunt is and the Vet provides us with a good report. I am going after the Breeder for the cost of the Puppy $875 flwon into us and to get them to pay the $810 for the vet bills for the last 2 days. I will work down from there. Plan on offering them to send us the Puppy fee upfront and then pay us the rest when they can aslong as we can pay off the Care Card within the intrest free time frame.
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My prayers are with you.....my puppy has a cleft pallatte and lip and one of the future problems will be liver shunt....she is such a fighter that I too will not put her down unless there is no other possiblities....good luck with everything
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I'm so sorry to hear about little Ty. If you do go through with the surgery, please let us know how his recovery goes. He's in my prayers.

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