This is the end of that!!

[RachelandSadie]

Thanks to those who have given advice to me that i have actually asked for!!


About the puppy mill thing in Missouri, i have found that yes this state has more than any other state, but you will be happy to know that the governement of this state is doing more to help that problem be resolved.

Why not write to your state legislators that you want this problem to stop and you want stronger and more harsh laws on breeders so this won't happen.

I have emailed my breeder several times to help him out in his process of registration and licensing in the state of MO, i have sent him an email with the Blue Ribbon Kennel Program link so that he can apply to become one of these if he'd like. This breeder as i've said over 20 times now, is NOT a puppy mill, he is not raising hundreds of dogs and selling them for ridiculous prices and then turning his back on the owners when they need help. He is an honest person, he helps the owners learn to raise their pups, and he loves and takes care of his babies just the same as any other person on here. He does this because he likes being around the puppies and he likes to see people happy. His kennels are clean and sanitary and he takes very good care of each and every mother, father, and puppy that he raises. His wife Linda also helps care for the puppies and they give them baths and trim their nails and feed them well and play play play with them everyday. A puppy miller wouldn't play with his puppies and let them chase him around the yard calling them by the names he's picked out and bringing them in the house for a bath and to cuddle with. This person could never harm a hair on a puppies head and doesn't let his puppies go until HE personally feels they are ready. He is knowledgeable and educated and though he may let puppies go earlier than most of you accept, he still looks out for what He personally feels is best for the pup.

So enough with the comments that I am getting my puppy from a puppy mill, i've had it with your rude and hateful remarks. IF you aren't here to be kind and help me to learn to care for my puppy then keep your opinions to yourselves. I don't want one more of this nonsense about puppy mills or how sick or disgusted you are.

I'm a very kindhearted, loving, sweet, and happy person, i've never in my life had so much trouble from strangers. I make friends everywhere I go and am one of the nicest people you will ever meet. I only wanted to come on here to have good advice and support and encouragement as my little one grows up with me, but instead i've found a lot more of angry, hurtful, and rude people who can't keep their nose in their own business. I know i've asked for advice about the age of bringing home a puppy before, but i'm not asking for that advice anymore...and that's all it was, was advice, i didn't need all the rudeness and disrespect with those comments.

I'm done with this conversation, if you want to help me raise her and give me knowledge please do, if you want to talk about her age or where she came from, start your own thread somewhere else, it's not welcome here anymore..


Thank you all and have a nice day!!

[chestermama]

your puppy is a doll, Im sorry for all the stuff that has happened, sometime people can go over the top with stuff. I hope you puppy is doing well and you will enjoy him or her they are wonderful little fur kids, they will steal your heart away very quickly, take care

[mjharpst]

Sorry about your experience this far on YT, this is a great site. It has lots and lots of useful helpful information. I know that everyone on here are yorkie lovers and they all have their opinions (which they are entitled) but as far as advice they are loaded with good information! You have made your decision and no one should say anymore about it, but I think they all want to give you advice from their own experiences to help you learn. I have not been involved because of all the controversy, but I wish you the of luck with your puppy and please continue to come to YT for advice but dont be suprised when opinions get stated too. I can not wait to see how Sadie does when she gets home!

[IHeartSnS]

Some people are just so judgemental and think that they are the only ones that are perfect and could be the only people to raise a "perfect" dog. I understand that you didn't get your dog from a puppy mill but to all those people that want to talk trash on her or anyone that gets a dog from a puppy mill for that matter you all need to shut your mouths. By purchasing one of these puppies you are giving them a chance at a life they may have never had they started off a rough life and need a family that will nurse them back to health and love them. Both of my dogs are puppy mill puppies and one of them was sick when i got him but i took the time and loved and cared for each of them and now they are both healthy very energetic dogs. So maybe you should think about what good people are doing before you put them down and get your story straight before judge someone based on your own assumptions.

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by IHeartSnS

Some people are just so judgemental and think that they are the only ones that are perfect and could be the only people to raise a "perfect" dog. I understand that you didn't get your dog from a puppy mill but to all those people that want to talk trash on her or anyone that gets a dog from a puppy mill for that matter you all need to shut your mouths. By purchasing one of these puppies you are giving them a chance at a life they may have never had they started off a rough life and need a family that will nurse them back to health and love them. Both of my dogs are puppy mill puppies and one of them was sick when i got him but i took the time and loved and cared for each of them and now they are both healthy very energetic dogs. So maybe you should think about what good people are doing before you put them down and get your story straight before judge someone based on your own assumptions.

Some people aren't being judgemental but are actually trying to help and educate others. You've bought two puppymill dogs that are just fine now, but how do you know they will be fine in the long run? I have a puppymill dog. See my thread HERE where I've shared my experiences. At 7 yrs of age, my pug could hardly walk, and now that she's 8, I carry her everywhere she has to go. This is all because of a genetic condition that she has called spondylosis, which is a degenerative disease of the spinal column which leads to fusion and immobilization of the vertebral bones. She has lost feeling in 2/3 or her back and her two rear legs. She has lost control of her bladder and bowels. The vet said that in order for her to inherit this condition it is likely that both her Mom and Dad had spondylosis too. Puppymillers don't care to test for genetic disorders or for any problems really. They are in it for the money. The spondylosis only started to show at around 6.5 yrs of age. It has been awful for our family to watch our pet suffer the way that she has. Yes, we pretty much rescued her and gave her a chance at life by buying her, but we also freed up space for a new puppymill pup to be bred and sold. It's a never ending cycle if we don't all stop buying from puppymills and irresponsible breeders.

I wish that I would have known then what I do now.

So you can tell us all to "shut your mouths" and call us "judgemental", but alot of us are speaking from the heart on a subject that we feel passionate about. My conscience won't allow me to just sit back and watch someone else make the same mistake that I did...not without sharing my experience first anyways.

[MsFamousHepburn]

Originally Posted by LilMissy

Some people aren't being judgemental but are actually trying to help and educate others. You've bought two puppymill dogs that are just fine now, but how do you know they will be fine in the long run? I have a puppymill dog. See my thread HERE where I've shared my experiences. At 7 yrs of age, my pug could hardly walk, and now that she's 8, I carry her everywhere she has to go. This is all because of a genetic condition that she has called spondylosis, which is a degenerative disease of the spinal column which leads to fusion and immobilization of the vertebral bones. She has lost feeling in 2/3 or her back and her two rear legs. She has lost control of her bladder and bowels. The vet said that in order for her to inherit this condition it is likely that both her Mom and Dad had spondylosis too. Puppymillers don't care to test for genetic disorders or for any problems really. They are in it for the money. The spondylosis only started to show at around 6.5 yrs of age. It has been awful for our family to watch our pet suffer the way that she has. Yes, we pretty much rescued her and gave her a chance at life by buying her, but we also freed up space for a new puppymill pup to be bred and sold. It's a never ending cycle if we don't all stop buying from puppymills and irresponsible breeders.

I wish that I would have known then what I do now.

So you can tell us all to "shut your mouths" and call us "judgemental", but alot of us are speaking from the heart on a subject that we feel passionate about. My conscience won't allow me to just sit back and watch someone else make the same mistake that I did...not without sharing my experience first anyways.

My Xavier is most likely a puppy mill dog, and had it not been for YT, I would have never known the difference. Xavier is healthy and strong now, but I am extremely careful with every aspect of his life because I know many things are likely to go wrong. I've learned from people like LilMissy's experiences. I love Xavier with all my heart, but it makes me so sad to think of his poor "parents" who are most likely still stuck in the vicious cycle. I will NEVER purchase an animal from a BYB again.

I'm sure people didn't mean to seem rude, but a lot of us are very passionate about humane treatment of animals. We can't pretend to be ok with injustices like puppy mills. Give us a chance.

[breannalynn]

I have yet to comment on your many posts but this is just ridiculous. The people here aren't being rude to you. They are trying to educate you. But you would rather be ignorant to the great information that they are offering you. I think it's comical how the breeder is being so easily assumed as being nice and kind but these people are rude. He's only nice and kind because he's feeding into everything you want to hear while these people are giving the truth.

[cheryl19]

Originally Posted by breannalynn

I have yet to comment on your many posts but this is just ridiculous. The people here aren't being rude to you. They are trying to educate you. But you would rather be ignorant to the great information that they are offering you. I think it's comical how the breeder is being so easily assumed as being nice and kind but these people are rude. He's only nice and kind because he's feeding into everything you want to hear while these people are giving the truth.

breannalynn Thank you!!!

No one has been rude to you, all I have seen is people trying to help you. A lot of us have dogs from byb and puppymills myself included. This site has educated me countless times on all kinds of things. I had no idea how bad byb are. Puppymills get into the tv news so that most of us know how bad they are but not byb. The people here are only trying their best to keep the yorkie standard strong so the breed stays true. And I personally would like to say "thank you" to all the good breeders and I hope your voice is heard.

[danyellm]

Thank you Lil Missy and everyone for sharing your stories and trying to help make people aware .I am certain there will be at least 1 person who reads about your experiences and will learn from it.
Rachel,
you do not know if your breeder is running a puppy mill just because he is a nice guy and TELLS you he plays with the pups in the yard.
I wish someone could go check out his kennels to know for sure.
Sadie might end up perfectly fine but coming from that kind of situation I am sure you realize the odds are against her having some type of health or behavior problem.
Please do not reccomend this man to anyone until you have personal knowledge of how he keeps his dogs.
All the best to you both...........

[BaxtersMommy]

I understand how you feel. Sometimes I read posts and they come across very rude. I think there is a sweet way to say what you need to say & a lot of people here are lacking. I do think most everyone has good intentions in what they are trying to say.

As long as you are happy with your baby, that is all that matters. Hopefully, we have all become aware of "what to look for in puppy mills".

I know this forum has been very helpful to me. I have learned alot.

www.healthyhappypets.biz

[charly]

l was fortunate enough that Rockie was brought from a great breeder. My question is what happens to the little ones who do not get brought from puppie mills and given a chance? l know some people here have healthy and sick puppy mill dogs. It's really sad how people take advantage for their personal gain with the little furbabies on how they sale them. My niece brought her Dior from the same breeder my daughter brought Rockie. It was a rough beginning for Dior she was so tiny and sick for a little while, but she made it through a lot of care and love. I think in the end that we all love the furbabies regardless of the money spent on care or where they were brought from. l don't think anyone wanted to purposely be rude, just sharing experiences and concern.

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by breannalynn

I have yet to comment on your many posts but this is just ridiculous. The people here aren't being rude to you. They are trying to educate you. But you would rather be ignorant to the great information that they are offering you. I think it's comical how the breeder is being so easily assumed as being nice and kind but these people are rude. He's only nice and kind because he's feeding into everything you want to hear while these people are giving the truth.

Thank you newbie for saying it perfectly.

I have stayed away from her threads because I think some
only want attention and this is one who does.
It drives me up the wall when newbies come here for advice
and when they don't hear what they want rant and rave
with all different kinds of threads trying to get a rise out of us.
People like this need to do what they want and suffer the consequences
alone as well. You can't help those who do not want help but make
believe they do

Look at me I answered anyhow.
Have a great day,

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

I'm done with this conversation, if you want to help me raise her and give me knowledge please do, if you want to talk about her age or where she came from, start your own thread somewhere else, it's not welcome here anymore..


Thank you all and have a nice day!!

I am not sure why you had your other thread closed, then started a new one only to say you are done with this conversation? Surely you know that starting a new thread will only continue the dialog, not end it?

I honestly don't think anyone here was trying to be mean or rude to you. We are just trying to warn you about the huge vet bills and heartbreak you may face with a poorly bred puppy.

My Lady is from a backyard breeder and her medications and vet bills run $5,000 plus a year. Yup, all those zeros are not a typo.

You have made up your mind to get a puppy from this breeder in spite of all the good advice and warnings from others. Why open the whole subject up again by starting this thread?

[RachelandSadie]

And that's all I have to say about that

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by IHeartSnS

Some people are just so judgemental and think that they are the only ones that are perfect and could be the only people to raise a "perfect" dog. I understand that you didn't get your dog from a puppy mill but to all those people that want to talk trash on her or anyone that gets a dog from a puppy mill for that matter you all need to shut your mouths. By purchasing one of these puppies you are giving them a chance at a life they may have never had they started off a rough life and need a family that will nurse them back to health and love them. Both of my dogs are puppy mill puppies and one of them was sick when i got him but i took the time and loved and cared for each of them and now they are both healthy very energetic dogs. So maybe you should think about what good people are doing before you put them down and get your story straight before judge someone based on your own assumptions.

By purchasing these puppies you are giving them a chance at life??????????
No you are helping to perpetuate the suffering of their moms and dads.
When you and me and whoever buy these puppies the demand increases and so does the BYB and Puppy-millers appetite for money and greed.
No you are not rescuing them, not by any means.
My baby is also from a pet-store and he is 4 and so far the bills have cost be over 3000 dollars. Do I love him, absolutely and I will take care of him and tend to his needs till the end of his life, would I buy another pet-store BYB dogs, no I would not.
Nobody is being rude, they are trying to save you maybe from a lifetime of health problems. Do all dogs have health problems, yes, but these puppies are in the much higher percentage for it.
I will not shut up, I will not let it pass and I will tell whoever what I feel and not to purchase from these monsters. If one just one person listens , then I can smile for the day. ' If everyone would listen and STOP buying from these monsters they would be shut down and put out of business.
I have the right to state my opinion so do you, but I wont shut up about it, ever!