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Old 09-03-2005, 12:03 PM   #1
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I met a dog last night named Cody. His parents owned him for three years. In between that time, they decided to have a human baby. Well, the baby was born, but was allergic to Cody. The baby was developing a rash, so the parents decided to give Cody away. Now Cody (German Shepard) is homeless and up for adoption. He's extremely gentle, smart, and he totally loved Otis. We met him last night. No, I am not going to adopt him so don't even suggest that.

Now, I don't have kids so I don't really don't know how much of an impact they have on a person as a parent, but I do know I love Otis so much that if I ever had a kid that had a rash because of him, I don't care. I would never give Otis up. That kid would have to take Benedryl for the rest of his life before I give up Otis.

What do you guys think about this behavior? Acceptable or unacceptable behavior? Would you give up your Yorkie so your human kid could be rash-free?

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I met a dog last night named Cody. His parents owned him for three years. In between that time, they decided to have a human baby. Well, the baby was born, but was allergic to Cody. The baby was developing a rash, so the parents decided to give Cody away. Now Cody (German Shepard) is homeless and up for adoption. He's extremely gentle, smart, and he totally loved Otis. We met him last night. No, I am not going to adopt him so don't even suggest that.

Now, I don't have kids so I don't really don't know how much of an impact they have on a person as a parent, but I do know I love Otis so much that if I ever had a kid that had a rash because of him, I don't care. I would never give Otis up. That kid would have to take Benedryl for the rest of his life before I give up Otis.

What do you guys think about this behavior? Acceptable or unacceptable behavior? Would you give up your Yorkie so your human kid could be rash-free?
Being a parent myself, it would depend on the severity of the allergy. If it was something that can be controlled with medication and possibly the pet spending most of the time outside. Which is where my lab stays because of my son's asthma as well as mine & his allergies. She has a huge dog house a huge fenced in yard. Two 5 gallon waters and two concrete patios and lots of trees to find shade.

But if I did not have these facilities they I would have to say yes I would give her up. But, since yorkies don't shed we don't have that problem in our house. If you had children you would definitely do what is best for them. I'm not saying this to cause an uproar this is just my opinion and what I would do. So don't anyone get mad at me.
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:10 PM   #3
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I would never give Otis up. That kid would have to take Benedryl for the rest of his life before I give up Otis.
Ha! I've always said this too. There ARE medicines (allegra?) that help with allergies.

Besides, yorkies ARE supposedly hypoallergenic dogs, so that shouldn't be a problem to begin with, thankgoodness!

I've seen this happen SO many times and it breaks my heart. Whatever human child I may one day give birth to, will be my 2nd child. Sully will always be our 1st "son".

Babies are cute, but only a dog can truly offer unconditional love.
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This is a tough one. I love my dogs and would hate to give them up. However if my child had allergies I would give them up. I would find them a home though where they would be loved.
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You change your tune when the baby comes home. I walked out the front door to the hospital crooning, "Don't worry, Horace, (the dog's name), you'll always be my baby." And I walked back in the door five days later saying, "One false move, dog, and you're out of here." No matter how much you love the dog, when you see those teeth marks (or rash bumps or whatever) on your own child's flesh, you'll do whatever it takes to protect the child, even if it means getting rid of the dog -- though most dog lovers will do so in a responsible way.

Now the baby I brought home is almost 24 and I NEED a Yorkie baby. Now I tell my son, "Don't you DARE do anything to frighten my dog!" And he doesn't; he knows when mother-instinct is in force, though is the first time it's been turned against him! So we've come full circle.
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oh WOW. That poor baby. I DO have kids...always had pets and my kids as babys had rashes - I never blamed my pets ...is there actual proof the baby even got a rash due to Cody or does it sound like the parents are maybe being a little over protective ?

Every baby has a rash at one time or another - it's part of being a baby....If someone raised an infant that never had a rash - I would love to hear about it. Poor little Cody - I feel so sad for him....

I'm with you on this one - I could never give up my girls unless I was certain that the rash was caused by them - rashes are treatable...I would need alot of proof that the animal is causing this problem before giving him up - What about letting Cody stay with someone and see if the baby is ok - bring Cody BACK and see what happens ?

unfortunately many people, once they have a baby, do give up their pets for various reasons. I wish people would think hard about having a pet if they're planning children.

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Egads, that is a tough one! I'm 100% sure we are so attached to Yoda that the skin kid would have to adjust, unless it was life threatening for the kid. But on the other hand, it really wouldn't be fair to the kid though, to always have a rash because of Yoda. If it was fixable by drugs or medication, well, then yes, that'd be fine and we'd do whatever it took so the child could co-exist with Yoda. I have heard of people giving up Yorkies due to problems with kids, and that's just very sad when I hear it.

Luckily, we know of at least two families (both close family members) that would spoil Yoda rotten (probably more than us even!) and could take him in as a last resort. One of the families is Yoda's godparents, in case something ever happened to us, they would take care of Yoda for the rest of Yoda's life, and we have financially arranged for them to do so as well. And they love him just as much as we do and he gets treated like royalty when he "vacations" there.

Giving Yoda to someone else would be the absolute last resort, though. We made a commitment to him when we adopted him that we would take care of him for all of his life as best we could and we think it's very important to stick to that commitment to him as he has given us so much love, happiness, joy, companionship, friendship, and good luck.

Do you think the situation would be changed if the KID came first? And say, the kid was 2 or 3 years old, then the family got the Yorkie? Then later, the kid gets an allergy a year later?
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My 32 yr old daughter has an allergy to Minnie. I will give up my daughter Minnie is cheaper.
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Do you think the situation would be changed if the KID came first? And say, the kid was 2 or 3 years old, then the family got the Yorkie? Then later, the kid gets an allergy a year later?
If the kid came first, then a responsible parent would do research on what type of dog to get for their kid. They would probably expose their kid to different dogs to see if kid even likes dogs to begin with, and hopefully at that time they'll find out if the kid was allergic or not.
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Wow, this is a really interesting discussion. Something everyone should consider when getting a pet.

But how about other circumstances.....like getting a dog to be a companion to your lonely widowed grandmother? If the dog brings her a few years of joy, is it worth leaving the dog homeless when she passes away?

When we got Sully, I took him over to play with my little cousins nearly every day. I wanted to socialize him to children now - so that one day, in like 3 years when I have a baby of my own, he'll adjust easier. Sully loves my cousins. Heh, you've all seen the pictures, LOL!
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I met a dog last night named Cody. His parents owned him for three years. In between that time, they decided to have a human baby. Well, the baby was born, but was allergic to Cody. The baby was developing a rash, so the parents decided to give Cody away. Now Cody (German Shepard) is homeless and up for adoption. He's extremely gentle, smart, and he totally loved Otis. We met him last night. No, I am not going to adopt him so don't even suggest that.

Now, I don't have kids so I don't really don't know how much of an impact they have on a person as a parent, but I do know I love Otis so much that if I ever had a kid that had a rash because of him, I don't care. I would never give Otis up. That kid would have to take Benedryl for the rest of his life before I give up Otis.

What do you guys think about this behavior? Acceptable or unacceptable behavior? Would you give up your Yorkie so your human kid could be rash-free?
it really depends. sometimes its so bad that someone's throat can close or whatever, and not much can help that, even the shots. if it was just a little thing absolutly not! if it was something that serious i have to say yes. of course i wouldn't just give my baby away he/she would have to go to a home where i could see him/her almost everyday. its very sad, and must be very hard to do, but sometimes it just can't be helped.
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i'm so attached to bentley..i could never give him up!
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i luvvvvvv lucky so much and i spoil him like he is my real son. but who am i kidding folks at the end of the day hes a well loved and spoiled "dog". not a human, not a child, but a cute and loving dog. hopefully i will never have to make that choice although i did consider it in the beginning since i have two children with very bad asthma. anyone who cant draw a line between a child you carried inside you for nine months and a dog has some issues. i couldn't imagine someone who has to debate who's more important their child or their dog. seriously. for those single people without children, your dog is like a child to you so of course you would put its needs befor your own but for those parents who have actually given birth i would hope priorties are in check.
my bf and i have been together for 15 + years and have 2 children together. he knows that i grew up in foster homes more than 20 and because of that i have channeled all my time and focus on my kids. and although he has help me get thru my own issues with being abandoned by my parents. i would drop his ass in a heartbeat if it meant a better life for my kids. luckly for me were total oppisite and it keeps us together.... he had great parents who loved them and took care of them and i spent most of my childhood wishing for a family who would love me and never leave me. guess i was lucky because i have it all now. a man who loves me, wonderful kids and a beautiful dog. i wouldn't change a thing......
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I met a dog last night named Cody. His parents owned him for three years. In between that time, they decided to have a human baby. Well, the baby was born, but was allergic to Cody. The baby was developing a rash, so the parents decided to give Cody away. Now Cody (German Shepard) is homeless and up for adoption. He's extremely gentle, smart, and he totally loved Otis. We met him last night. No, I am not going to adopt him so don't even suggest that.

Now, I don't have kids so I don't really don't know how much of an impact they have on a person as a parent, but I do know I love Otis so much that if I ever had a kid that had a rash because of him, I don't care. I would never give Otis up. That kid would have to take Benedryl for the rest of his life before I give up Otis.

What do you guys think about this behavior? Acceptable or unacceptable behavior? Would you give up your Yorkie so your human kid could be rash-free?
Let me ask you this. When my husband was married to his first he had to dashunds and he had to give one away because, it bit my youngest stepson when he was a baby. I know this was hard to do. What would you do in this case? He for some reason just didn't like him. Never bit my oldest stepson..
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