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02-25-2009, 04:25 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| PUPPY BROKERS!!!! LAMBRIAR and HUNT I was wondering why no one ever discusses puppy brokers in the PUPPY MILL discussions. It seems that many of these pet stores either LIE or just don't really understand. These pet stores swear up and down they do not purchase from Puppy Mills, and in fact many of them do not. Apparently there are TWO major Puppy Brokers Lambriar and HUNT. These are the puppy "transporters". These brokers DO buy from the puppy mills. And then sometimes these little puppies, ripped from there mommies way too young, spend days sometimes weeks in large trucks being transported across the country! IT IS SICKENING! I bought my baby 3 years ago. After he got sick quickly, I began to do alot of research, including calling the National Humane Society and learned just how this works. I tracked down my "breeder" who told me he sold the puppy to Lambriar for $400. Well I paid $2000 because there are so many middle men in the process. While it is critical to continue raising awareness about puppy mills, it is also imperative to expose this part of the business linking the puppy mills to the pet stores. In addition, the government allows certain Puppy breeders to be USDA approved. What I learned is these "backyard breeders" are perhaps one step above the "traditional puppy mills. This is a huge business!!! Unfortunately, I learned the hard way. There is a lemon law in most states which says you can get your money back from the Pet store and you can keep the dog! I didn't know that, and there was no way I was giving Nobu back. Our vet bills have been astronomical, but the love I have for him makes it all worth it. I made the mistake of walking into a pet store, without an intention of purchasing a dog....BIG MISTAKE! We MUST stay our of the PET STORES all together, and the public must be educated on theses MIDDLE MEN! They too deny having ties to puppy mills! LIES!!!!
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02-25-2009, 04:28 PM | #2 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lancaster County
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| OMG, thats horrible. I really hate the whole thing. |
02-25-2009, 04:32 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| Puppy brokers
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02-25-2009, 04:44 PM | #4 | |
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Puppy brokers are the absolute lowest in my opinion. I hate puppy mills, but the truth of the matter is that some of these farms are owned by people who have really little or no contact with the outside world, and view puppies no differently than any other form of livestock. They are farmers, and they treat the dogs like farm animals. Puppy brokers on the other hand, know very much about the real world, and sell these dogs to Pet Stores and through the Internet. They know these dogs are coming from horrific backgrounds, and see no problem with being the middleman. I don't think any Pet Stores get their pets from responsible breeders, how could they, a responsible breeder doesn't "sell" her dog. A responsible breeder adopts her dog, this means that she won't sell her dog to just anyone. Pet stores on the other hand, sell their dogs to anyone who has the money to buy it. Part of being a good breeder is ensuring that all the dogs you produce go to good homes. More people seem to be aware that purchasing a dog from a Pet Store perpetuates the suffering of millions of dogs in puppy mills, but they don't seem to be as knowledgeable about purchasing a dog over the internet. Unless you actually go see the breeder's home, and see the kennel conditions, you are condoning the suffering of millions of dogs.
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02-25-2009, 04:47 PM | #5 |
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| I live in Lancaster County PA...AMISH COUNTRY...arent they sweet, not really. I thought they were the worst with puppy mills. Dont let them fool you, they are cruel and harsh and you are right to them they are just animals and are to be treated that way. They use their religion to attract buyers and it makes me crazy. |
02-25-2009, 05:05 PM | #6 | |
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02-25-2009, 05:16 PM | #7 | |
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I spoke with one of these Amish breeders when I was first looking for another puppy. Spoke to her for about 1/2 hour just chatting. Needless to say, I was intentionally finding out how they were being raised. She said that she did not have a male right now but would in a week! A week....really? I chose to go with the breeders here on YT, because they had referrals from people right on the forum who had adopted from them before. Speaking with someone who has bought from the breeder before is worth more than words. | |
02-25-2009, 05:29 PM | #8 |
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| I agree. This is the best I have ever seen for any info on yorkies. I would always ask here first. |
02-25-2009, 05:59 PM | #9 |
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| Hunte Corporation is the largest puppy broker in the US. They own Petland. Here are some articles and videos for you: Petland and Hunte Corp. Accused of Illegal Business Practices and Selling Sick Puppies | Animal Law Coalition View Investigation Report View Investigation Report |
02-25-2009, 06:59 PM | #10 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| Hunte and Lambriar We need to get this out to everyone! I believe the Puppy Stores convince people they DO NOT BUY from Breeders. In fort lauderdale, we have a very high end "teacup" boutique. She sells the dogs for $2K - $8K. I went in there years ago, and she swore up and down she would NEVER buy from a puppy mill....blah blah blah...and explained how she goes through a "REPUTABLE" broker who knows the Breeders! BULLS***!!!!!! As someone said, Reputable Breeders DO NOT sell to Brokers! I think everyone should post this on their personal pages! This makes me crazy...because the brokers are truly the one perpetuating this disgusting business!!!!! Without brokers puppy mills could not survive!
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02-25-2009, 07:05 PM | #11 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| Another article about Hunte...Lambriar has a good market share as well!!!
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02-25-2009, 09:35 PM | #12 |
♥ Catherine My Love ♥ Donating Member | Ugh! There are a couple of things I have to say here - I live in Missouri and there are countless Puppy Mills within a short drive of me. It's horrible and disgusting. There have been times I have been at the vet with one of my babies, and one of these millers came in with 6 puppies stuffed in an undersized crate - stuffed so full that the handle on the travel crate broke and the puppies dropped to the floor! It was awful! The lady didn't even blink, just pushed the crate to the side with her foot and walked up to the counter. Within seconds the entire office stank of feces. I nearly threw up in my mouth. Anyway, sorry about that rant. But, around here where I live, just about everyone sells to HUNTE. Not us, of course, but years ago my dad sold some to Hunte. They don't check out the breeders other than their licensing. They don't give breeders any incentive to do a good job.... and they certainly don't pay breeders a fair price, which is why "good" breeders won't sell to them. They want to buy Yorkie puppies for $75 to $300 each..... a good breeder can't raise a puppy for $300 - but a puppy mill can (the ones that survive, anyway). Also, I heard a while back that a semi-truck of Hunte puppies going to the east coast caught on fire, and all of the puppies died from smoke inhalation. Make you want to cry? God I hope so. DO NOT BUY FROM A PET STORE!
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02-25-2009, 10:01 PM | #13 |
♥ Catherine My Love ♥ Donating Member | Link about Hunte Puppy Deaths This is some info about the truck fire that killed 60 puppies. Breeders Compete With Hunte Corp. - 60 Puppies Dead. HSUS, USDA & AKC Condone This Dog Breeding? TheDogPress
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02-26-2009, 04:42 PM | #14 |
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| I am the owner of a Puppy Mill puppy, I didn't purchase my baby directly from a Pet Store - she was rehomed to me at 3 months of age because the people who bought her had no idea that puppies required things like a crate, a harness, walks and housebreaking. It breaks my heart everytime I see something on the news or on YT boards about Puppy Mills and how the poor animals are treated. I have never owned a dog before as an adult (had one as a child, it was my Fathers dog). I am so thankful for the education, it will help me in the future when I get another dog and more importantly it helps me with SophieKate (the Puppy Mill puppy). When I found out where the people who rehomed her bought her I made my Vet aware - together with my Vet we are making sure SophieKate is happy, healthy and hopefully has no long term effects of where she was born.
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02-26-2009, 05:27 PM | #15 |
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| Brokers are the lowest people on earth... |
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