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Old 01-21-2009, 10:45 AM   #1
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Today my little guy,Brinkley, who is just 1year 3 months, and my BABY BEAR, had a vet visit...actually a 2nd opinion.

I need to give a backround for yas 1st. I picked him up Jan 27th last year from a rescue, he is a puppy mill puppy Since I got him we have had many many problems. A week after I got him he was at the vet, he had a persistent cough that took 3 different meds to take care of. The he had a tummy issue and was on meds for that. Then the typical stuff of his shots and stuff. Then he was neutered. Then he started limping on his right hind leg...well sure enough...he's got a luxating patella which was diagnosed back in Sep. The vet popped it back into place & gave us some pain meds. Then in Oct. back to the vet we went because he was scratching a lot and they said he has seasonal allergies & put him on Prednisone. Then in Dec. he started limping again. At that time they tried to pop the knee back into place but this time it wouldn't go & they told me surgery would be needed within 6mo. Today we went for a second opinion on the knee & to an overall check & because he had a strange spot on his head. Welllllll.......the right hind leg is in advanced luxation and already has scar tissue & arthritis, and he now has it in his left hind leg too And the crusty strange spot on the top of his head ended up being a cyst that burst and is now infected, which they shaved some of his hair away & medicated it. The vet said the cyst will come back & when it does it will need to be surgically removed & tested. And he can get more. And now because the right hind leg already has the scar tissue & arthritis, the surgery may not show any difference. And god only knows what these cysts will end up being and he will need to be put out each time to take care of them.

Needlesstosay.............I AM A WRECK! I don't want him to be in pain. Nor do I want to keep feeling this pain. I don't want to having him go through surgeries. I am just at a total loss! And totally heartbroken! He is my BABY!

Has anyone encountered problem after problem like this? I don't know what to do???
I have talked to a lot of people & gotten mixed suggestions. I know ultimately I can only make any kind of decision. But I am a mess, I keep crying when I think about it or look at his cute little face.
Some are saying to think about putting him to rest so he or I don't have to keep going through this. Or just keeping him comfortable with medications until he is past the point where he isn't comfortable. OMG.......I am sooooooo sad!
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:52 AM   #2
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I'm soo sorry all this is happening to you. I don't know what to say... This must be a hard decision for you. I wouldn't want to lose my baby, but at the same time, would hate to see them suffering... Maybe someone else will have a better, more reasuring answer for you. Prayers are being sent your way.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:53 AM   #3
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oh my, im so sorry your baby and you are having to go through this.
i myself wouldnt know what to do and im sorry im no help.. my opinion only,
i would not put my baby to sleep.. i have a hard time with that.. i would
medicate as much as i can so he is not in pain.. we are here for you ..
im sending prayers your way..and hugss
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I'm so sorry.

Is he happy and playful?
If his pain can be managed and you can afford this, there is no reason to euthanize. It is possible that the LP surgery will work just fine. Isn't it worth a try? And the cyst will likely come back, but what if it doesn't? And what if he only has to go under once a year to take care of it? He can get his teeth cleaned at the same time.

Now if he is in pain and nothing can be done for that, then euthanasia may need to be considered, but I just don't see that as a good option right now.

If these problems can be managed and his quality of life is similar to that of other dogs, I'd try it.
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You poor girl and that poor little fellow.
I don't know what to tell you but nothing he is experiencing
seems to be life threatening. Take one day at a time is all
I can suggest. These problems have to end sooner or later.
I had a terrier mix (Norfolk terrier mix) that was a rescue.
Around age 7 he started with little bumps on his body.
I went from one doctor or another finally ending up at an
holistic one that also did not know what to do about it.
By the time he passed at 16yrs he did not have one spot
on him that you could pet! He was a loving sweet dog but
looked terrible with sores all over. They were not cancerous.
If the cyst is not milignant , which many are not, this
will not effect his life span.
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I'm so sorry.

Is he happy and playful?
If his pain can be managed and you can afford this, there is no reason to euthanize. It is possible that the LP surgery will work just fine. Isn't it worth a try? And the cyst will likely come back, but what if it doesn't? And what if he only has to go under once a year to take care of it? He can get his teeth cleaned at the same time.

Now if he is in pain and nothing can be done for that, then euthanasia may need to be considered, but I just don't see that as a good option right now.

If these problems can be managed and his quality of life is similar to that of other dogs, I'd try it.
I agree. I truly feel for you going through all of this with your little guy. It's so overwhelming. I know how emotionally, not to mention financially draining, it can be to have a sick pet. It's always been my personal belief that I needed to know I tried EVERYTHING for my dog.

I'm sure it's hard to remain optimistic at this point, but the surgery might work just fine! I wouldn't consider euthanasia unless he is in substantial and debilitating pain, and I've had a few vets tell me there is nothing they can do for him. At only a little over a year old, this guy sure has had to fight through a lot, but he might have a very bright future ahead of him if you can find a way to get a handle on this now.

Can you tell if he is happy most of the time? Dogs are much stronger than we often given them credit for...

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hmmm...not really sure why anyone would suggest PTS (sounds crazy to me)

LP is not a death sentence. Get a consult with a Board Cert. Ortho Surgeon and go from there. If they say surgery is a must, then I say have the surgery done, and I can guarantee you that he will be a brand new boy! And get him on Cosiquin - it's a really good joint supplement.

He should be on antib's for the cyst infection. And once cleared he should be good. If it comes back, than take care of that too!

Unfortunately, puppymill pups, whether they come from a rescue or petstore run a greater risk of defects and sickness, but it doesn't make then any less lovable or deserving at a healthy and happy life....

If you simply can not emotionally or financially take care of this innocent baby, than I suggest finding a reputable Yorkie rescue to take him in, as he surely doesn't deserve to be PTS
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hmmm...not really sure why anyone would suggest PTS (sounds crazy to me)

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If you simply can not emotionally or financially take care of this innocent baby, than I suggest finding a reputable Yorkie rescue to take him in, as he surely doesn't deserve to be PTS
Off-Topic, but what's PTS? Put to sleep?
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For the most part Brinkley doesn't show signs of a lot of pain...BUT he does limp A LOT. So I know he is in pain with his knees...unless he is on his Rymadil. But even then he still has a slight limp. But he is a happy puppy. He still loves to play. But he does nap now more then ever, but I attributed that to the coming out of his puppy years slowly but surely.

I had the $ set aside for 1 knee. Not 2. So it's a big financial burden on top of the emotional one right now too.

I just know I have a lot to think about. But all of your help & opinions & prayers do help...Thank you soooo much! I love this site!
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Yes (in a nice way)
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For the most part Brinkley doesn't show signs of a lot of pain...BUT he does limp A LOT. So I know he is in pain with his knees...unless he is on his Rymadil. But even then he still has a slight limp. But he is a happy puppy. He still loves to play. But he does nap now more then ever, but I attributed that to the coming out of his puppy years slowly but surely.

I had the $ set aside for 1 knee. Not 2. So it's a big financial burden on top of the emotional one right now too.

I just know I have a lot to think about. But all of your help & opinions & prayers do help...Thank you soooo much! I love this site!
Roxy had both legs done at the same time, which cost just about the same as one leg at a time. When they are young and a small toy breed they can recover fine having both legs done at the same time. Plus the 8 week recovery is rough (keeping them contained) - so having both done at the same time is worth only one recovery.

If he is limping often, then the surgery isn't something to put off for too long.

My Mom's little girl (almost 3 yrs old) just had LP surgery - Grade 3 and she had arthritis already set in. Surgery was a success and she is doing quite well!
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I'm so sorry to hear all that you are going thru...sadly your situation is not all that uncommon with puppy milled babies.. People really need to understand that when adopting one! But like was mentioned his problems are not life threatening at all!

If he's a happy puppy...please do NOT think about Euthinizing him... If you can't afford it...then please think about yorkie rescue..he has been thru so much he deserves a chance at a happy life!!! And like was said...cysts aren't automatically malignant....Surgery can correct his other issue....

you're in my thoughts!!! And so is your precious Brinkley!!!!
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Hi Jessica and Brinkley,

So sorry to hear about Brinkley but I am sure with your love he will be ok...

My princess is called Emillie and is 15 months old... When she was 5 month I took her for a walk and noticed she fell and was licking her back left leg at that time I thought she had a splinter in her paw or something and carried her home. She continued to keep licking her foot so i took her to the vets who told me she had a luxcating patela... She had to go and have the operation and it did distress me to see her poorly but she showed such strength and ditermination. She recovered still had a slight limp but continued to enjoy her life so much and I thought that she was going to be ok now....

On Jan 2nd this year Emillie fell down the stairs which was not like her and I was devastated but she seemed ok!!!! The following day she started shaking and was limping more so I took her straight to the vets who gave her some medication and said that it was trauma from the fall and to give her complete rest for a coupl of days if that didn't work they may need to do xrays! Over the next day or 2 she got worse and week so I took her back again and the vet said maybe the medication is no good stop giving her that come back in a couple of days we will try something else if that doesn't work we may do xrays!!!! I was so upset and frustrated at this as it ment she would have no pain relief for at least 2 days and I wasn't prepared to do that to her. I contacted a different vet and explained the situation and asked if they would please see Emillie and give me a second opinion as I had to be sure she was ok. The new vets said I could come down straight away which I did, they looked at Emillie and said her unsteadyness wasn't right and they wanted to take her in for xrays!!!
The results of the xrays didn't show any damage (which i thought was fantastic news!!) so they gave some pain relief and said to give complete rest for about 3/4 weeks. Over the next 2 days Emillie became very unwell she started to tilt her head and fall over and then not be able to walk at all I took her back to the vet who rushed her to a Animal Hospital, she had an MRI scan and has been diagnosed with GME, she started chemo 2 weeks ago followed by steroids which seemed to work she started to walk again and I was allowed to bring her home.. Within 2 days of being home she reverted back to how she was so I imediately contacted the hospital who said to take her straight back. That was 1 week ago now and they have been giving her more tablets. She was showing slight signs of improvement but has today withdrawn. The hospital are going to give her more chemo tomorrow a week early as a last hope to control this disease.... Like you my princess is my life I can't bare for her to be in pain but cant give up on her either so am hoping and praying she will be ok...

I would say that all you can do for Brinkley is your best the operation for Luxcating patella is not nice but they are not in too much pain and me and princess spent 2 days in bed together and i just fed her organic chicken (she loved that bit). The infection should go with antibiotics. I have spent 5k on Princess's treatment so know it's not cheap but you just have to do what is best for your baby as you know better than anyone what the are like...

My thoughts and prays are with you both xxxx
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hmmm...not really sure why anyone would suggest PTS (sounds crazy to me)

LP is not a death sentence. Get a consult with a Board Cert. Ortho Surgeon and go from there. If they say surgery is a must, then I say have the surgery done, and I can guarantee you that he will be a brand new boy! And get him on Cosiquin - it's a really good joint supplement.

He should be on antib's for the cyst infection. And once cleared he should be good. If it comes back, than take care of that too!

Unfortunately, puppymill pups, whether they come from a rescue or petstore run a greater risk of defects and sickness, but it doesn't make then any less lovable or deserving at a healthy and happy life....

If you simply can not emotionally or financially take care of this innocent baby, than I suggest finding a reputable Yorkie rescue to take him in, as he surely doesn't deserve to be PTS

I think some people around me have said that just because of everything that he has had. He really has been a sick puppy, there was only a 2 month span since I have had him that he didn't go to the vet. Believe me, PTS wasn't even a thought in my head until someone said it to me. I didn't look at his luxations that way. I am just looking at how much he can handle & how worth it it would be, like if 8mo. down the road he got something else that was life threatening since this seems to be his way of life & all that he has known in his 1 yr 3mo life has been mostly sick.

The 2nd opinion today was a vet who is a surgeon too. That's why I had set the 2nd opinion up with him.
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I think some people around me have said that just because of everything that he has had. He really has been a sick puppy, there was only a 2 month span since I have had him that he didn't go to the vet. Believe me, PTS wasn't even a thought in my head until someone said it to me. I didn't look at his luxations that way. I am just looking at how much he can handle & how worth it it would be, like if 8mo. down the road he got something else that was life threatening since this seems to be his way of life & all that he has known in his 1 yr 3mo life has been mostly sick.

The 2nd opinion today was a vet who is a surgeon too. That's why I had set the 2nd opinion up with him.
I hear ya....There are risks no matter which way you turn. A healthy yorkie is hard to come by.

Roxy cost us $800 - plus her spay and shots, then a dental cleaning, then LP surgery (both legs) then a re-do LP surgery, then a diagnosis of MVD, then another dental by a B.Cert Dentist. She has major allergies and possibly mild CT - All in all to date (she is just over 4 yrs) she cost us almost $8000 to $10,000 - and I don't know what her future holds either.....

TJ was sick for the first year and half of his life too! I was at the Vet at least 2x a week with him as well....

Sounds like you really love the little bugger and I hope things work out
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