How do I RE-introduce my two cute Yorkies?? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

MissTinkerbelle · 10-14-2008, 12:05 AM

OK,
So you all know I got a new little Yorkie today, Drake.
The meeting with him and Buddy have not been good.
They are in seperate rooms since the first encounter.

I am scared to let them meet again.
I didn't let them meet on neutral territory, they met in my house.

So tomorrow, when I do the re-introducing, how should I do it and how should I handle it?

Please help me out!
I really want everything to work out with Buddy and Drake.
BTW, neither a neutered and for some reason my hubby won't let me (even though we are not breeding), he thinks it is mean and hurtful.

So any and all advice is so helpful.
Thanks in advance!

robintaff · 10-14-2008, 12:13 AM

Not sure about the non-neutered thing....you may have a problem there. Have you given your new baby a bath yet? I found that when I introduced a new one, bathing first made the introduction easier. By bathing you're removing odors of other dogs. Mine weren't as interested in the new member after a bath....Good luck...I'm sure it will all work out.

Lucia · 10-14-2008, 12:23 AM

Bump, bump, bump (coz I promised I would hun

) xxx

alaskayorkie · 10-14-2008, 01:08 AM

Here's a couple of ideas:

I had a trainer help me when I introduced a Lab to my two Yorkies, and she had us set up the first meeting in an nearby park. She held Rusty on a leash, and I walked up with Eddie. At first, we didn't let them get together. Just see each other. If they do OK, you can go ahead and let them get closer and sniff butts, whatever. After that, go for a leashed walk, with two humans walking the two dogs. That worked well for us. However, sometimes dogs can become aggressive when they're leashed, so you'll have to watch them.

Another option. A friend recently attended a seminar on introducing sometimes-aggressive dogs to each other. The instructor lives on a 5-acre ranch. He swears that if you just give them plenty of room, there's never any problems. The people in the seminar walked dozens of yards away from each other. The dogs would come up and socialize with each other, but they humans never came together. It was all unleashed. Maybe you can do it in an enclosed ball field or a vacant dog park.

Try not to panic. It's very common that they don't get along at first. My guess is they will be best friends in a couple weeks. If toys become a problem, scoop them all up and only hand them out during supervised toy time.

Good luck

GPONTLITZ · 10-14-2008, 02:57 AM

has anything changed yet to make them sniff and become friends?? Since I only have had one at a time I'm clueless !! sorry

bildio · 10-14-2008, 03:18 AM

You and your husband should take them outside, separately, on leashes.

Start from a distance, and walk toward each other. See how they behave, as they pass with sufficient separation between them.

If it looks favorable give them freedom, on leashes, to sniff each other.

You may want to let one off the leash, and let him come to check the other out.

If it doesn't work out favorably, take a break, and try later. Repeat as needed.

Ladymom · 10-14-2008, 07:29 AM

Two intact adult males is a problem. Males that haven't been neutered will be territorial and aggressive with one another. It's their nature.

JCarlson2004 · 10-14-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Two intact adult males is a problem. Males that haven't been neutered will be territorial and aggressive with one another. It's their nature.

Cesar, from the Dog Whisperer, says this all the time and he urges people to have their male dogs neutered.

Ashley V · 10-14-2008, 08:05 AM

Both of my boys were neutered when they were introduced. Chip has always been dog friendly, but for some reason, I think he knew we were bringing Smokey home, because he was nasty towards him and he just isn't like that. Chip was very mean for about 2 weeks and we had some bad fights for awhile. The lady we got Smokey from said to not correct Chip for being like that because it's natural and he was there first. She said if you correct any one correct Smokey.

Make sure you give Buddy lots of attention with Drake around that way he doesn't feel replaced. If you give them a treat, give Buddy his first. If you give them a toy, give Buddy his first. Do everything with Buddy first. Maybe take Buddy out to a park or something by himself. Make sure Buddy knows you still love him.

Be patient... it will work out in the end. One thing they are also trying to do is find pack order. Dogs are pack animals and one has to be dominant over the other one. Since they are both un-neutered males, they will be doing this more than ever. Once they figure out who is more dominant, things will settle down.

My two LOVE each other now. They can't be apart or they start crying. When we take them to the groomer's (the same person we got Smokey from), she says that Chip turns into wolf dog when she takes Smokey to groom him.

TLC · 10-14-2008, 08:28 AM

Honestly - Those boys SHOULD be neutered!

Not only are you protecting them from cancer (search for it and you'll see that having dogs spayed and neutered does protect them from getting cancer). Secondly you are going to have a handful of issues for many years to come. Neutering them will calm them down, will slow down the aggression, will help with the constant marking and humping.

It totally blows my mind when I read that ppl don't spay and neuter

Ladymom · 10-14-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TLC

Honestly - Those boys SHOULD be neutered!

Not only are you protecting them from cancer (search for it and you'll see that having dogs spayed and neutered does protect them from getting cancer). Secondly you are going to have a handful of issues for many years to come. Neutering them will calm them down, will slow down the aggression, will help with the constant marking and humping.

It totally blows my mind when I read that ppl don't spay and neuter

Having two intact males in the same household is not going to work.

Testosterone aggravates a number of undesirable behavioral tendencies : deliberate leg-lifting or "marking" indoors, sexual advances towards inappropriate objects (ranging from table legs to your Aunt Minnie's legs), aggressive behavior by your male against other male dogs and , even more, by other males initiated against your male (which can result in fights yielding serious injury and serious vet bills), and general willingness to duke it out with you for position of pack leader (which can result in serious bites). Also , as mentioned above, escaping and roaming is heavily fueled by testosterone.

To clarify the male - male fight issue, the scent of testosterone on your male dog will inspire other males to initiate fights against him. Even if your male is himself very peacefully inclined, being intact makes him a target. Just think of it as a teenaged boy walking around the city unknowingly wearing "gang colors" : sooner or later he wanders into the wrongh part of town and is attacked.

WHY YOUR MALE DOG SHOULD BE NEUTERED

MissTinkerbelle · 10-14-2008, 09:27 AM

You know, I know my dogs should be neutered.
I don't need lectures or people to make me feel bad about that ok.

I am an adult and we can make our own decisions, and if we choose not to have them fixed at the moment, than that is our decision. I don't want to hear how it "blows people's minds" when people don't have their animals fixed.

It will be done, but now he is not comfortable with it. No need to rush.

This threat turned into a neutering lecture more than how to get my two precious Yorkies to get along.

I am sure I am not the only person out there who has 2 Yorkies who are not fixed... what about breeders?

So PLEASE STOP with the the neutering lectures and comments. I am an adult, I know what can happen and in due time they will be.

Now back to my original post, if anyone can help me I would appreciate it.
Right now I feel like crying because I don't know what to do.

Thanks again.

chachi · 10-14-2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Two intact adult males is a problem. Males that haven't been neutered will be territorial and aggressive with one another. It's their nature.

I agree and that may be part of the problem your having now. I would reintroduce them in a neutral area like a park or something

TLC · 10-14-2008, 09:40 AM

Sorry to have made you upset, but my comments were based on your posts. You wanted help, advice and opinions on "how to get them to get along"

Well, in my experience from dealing with 'boyz' - Yes neutering will help them get along better, as well as 'other things'.

If I had this situation, I would start with the basics...first I would eliminate the Testosterone, that is at the root of each dog, then I would move onto positive training methods ~ but obviously 'that type of advice' is not what you want to hear....

bildio · 10-14-2008, 09:48 AM

It is important for you to try to relax, and be calm. Your guys can sense your feelings. If you are calm, it will help calm them. They will get along, but it will take patience and time. How much time is hard to predict.

Work with them daily, several times daily, if possible, on neutral territory.

If one appears to be the aggressor, a firm NO, and a quick separation might help. Don't over do it though. Try to work in some play, like chasing a ball. Your husband should work with one, and you with the other.

I got my two guys together, and it took about 1 month. Just about what the breeder of the new addition said it would take. My wife didn't think it would be possible for them to get along, and she is now so pleased to see how well they get along.

10-14-2008, 12:05 AM	#1
MissTinkerbelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rhode Island, United States Posts: 114	How do I RE-introduce my two cute Yorkies?? OK, So you all know I got a new little Yorkie today, Drake. The meeting with him and Buddy have not been good. They are in seperate rooms since the first encounter. I am scared to let them meet again. I didn't let them meet on neutral territory, they met in my house. So tomorrow, when I do the re-introducing, how should I do it and how should I handle it? Please help me out! I really want everything to work out with Buddy and Drake. BTW, neither a neutered and for some reason my hubby won't let me (even though we are not breeding), he thinks it is mean and hurtful. So any and all advice is so helpful. Thanks in advance! __________________ Keri Momma to Buddy Benji

10-14-2008, 12:23 AM	#3
Lucia YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kent, England Posts: 476	Bump, bump, bump (coz I promised I would hun) xxx __________________ Love from Claire (Me!) mummy to skindaughters Mia and Lucia and furdaughter Twinkle

10-14-2008, 01:08 AM	#4
alaskayorkie Race to 7,000 champ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anchorage Posts: 11,018 Blog Entries: 28	Here's a couple of ideas: I had a trainer help me when I introduced a Lab to my two Yorkies, and she had us set up the first meeting in an nearby park. She held Rusty on a leash, and I walked up with Eddie. At first, we didn't let them get together. Just see each other. If they do OK, you can go ahead and let them get closer and sniff butts, whatever. After that, go for a leashed walk, with two humans walking the two dogs. That worked well for us. However, sometimes dogs can become aggressive when they're leashed, so you'll have to watch them. Another option. A friend recently attended a seminar on introducing sometimes-aggressive dogs to each other. The instructor lives on a 5-acre ranch. He swears that if you just give them plenty of room, there's never any problems. The people in the seminar walked dozens of yards away from each other. The dogs would come up and socialize with each other, but they humans never came together. It was all unleashed. Maybe you can do it in an enclosed ball field or a vacant dog park. Try not to panic. It's very common that they don't get along at first. My guess is they will be best friends in a couple weeks. If toys become a problem, scoop them all up and only hand them out during supervised toy time. Good luck __________________ Meet Eddie and Jack: www.dogster.com/?159686 YouTube vids: http://www.youtube.com/alaskayorkie Picture site: http://web.mac.com/mlewishome

10-14-2008, 02:57 AM	#5
GPONTLITZ Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MARYLAND Posts: 150	has anything changed yet to make them sniff and become friends?? Since I only have had one at a time I'm clueless !! sorry __________________ hugs and licks, ginger and JD

10-14-2008, 07:29 AM	#7
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,868	Two intact adult males is a problem. Males that haven't been neutered will be territorial and aggressive with one another. It's their nature. __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ High Quality Handmade Bows for the Pampered Pooch

10-14-2008, 12:13 AM	#2
robintaff Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 124	Not sure about the non-neutered thing....you may have a problem there. Have you given your new baby a bath yet? I found that when I introduced a new one, bathing first made the introduction easier. By bathing you're removing odors of other dogs. Mine weren't as interested in the new member after a bath....Good luck...I'm sure it will all work out.

10-14-2008, 03:18 AM	#6
bildio Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oceanport, NJ Posts: 343	You and your husband should take them outside, separately, on leashes. Start from a distance, and walk toward each other. See how they behave, as they pass with sufficient separation between them. If it looks favorable give them freedom, on leashes, to sniff each other. You may want to let one off the leash, and let him come to check the other out. If it doesn't work out favorably, take a break, and try later. Repeat as needed.

10-14-2008, 08:05 AM	#9
Ashley V YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leesburg Posts: 1,471	Both of my boys were neutered when they were introduced. Chip has always been dog friendly, but for some reason, I think he knew we were bringing Smokey home, because he was nasty towards him and he just isn't like that. Chip was very mean for about 2 weeks and we had some bad fights for awhile. The lady we got Smokey from said to not correct Chip for being like that because it's natural and he was there first. She said if you correct any one correct Smokey. Make sure you give Buddy lots of attention with Drake around that way he doesn't feel replaced. If you give them a treat, give Buddy his first. If you give them a toy, give Buddy his first. Do everything with Buddy first. Maybe take Buddy out to a park or something by himself. Make sure Buddy knows you still love him. Be patient... it will work out in the end. One thing they are also trying to do is find pack order. Dogs are pack animals and one has to be dominant over the other one. Since they are both un-neutered males, they will be doing this more than ever. Once they figure out who is more dominant, things will settle down. My two LOVE each other now. They can't be apart or they start crying. When we take them to the groomer's (the same person we got Smokey from), she says that Chip turns into wolf dog when she takes Smokey to groom him. __________________ ~~ Chip ~~ Smokey ~*~ My heart is wrapped around their little paws

10-14-2008, 08:28 AM	#10
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,259	Honestly - Those boys SHOULD be neutered! Not only are you protecting them from cancer (search for it and you'll see that having dogs spayed and neutered does protect them from getting cancer). Secondly you are going to have a handful of issues for many years to come. Neutering them will calm them down, will slow down the aggression, will help with the constant marking and humping. It totally blows my mind when I read that ppl don't spay and neuter __________________ Nicole *"You Won't Change the World by Saving One Animal..BUT...You Will Change the World for that One"*

10-14-2008, 09:27 AM	#12
MissTinkerbelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rhode Island, United States Posts: 114	You know, I know my dogs should be neutered. I don't need lectures or people to make me feel bad about that ok. I am an adult and we can make our own decisions, and if we choose not to have them fixed at the moment, than that is our decision. I don't want to hear how it "blows people's minds" when people don't have their animals fixed. It will be done, but now he is not comfortable with it. No need to rush. This threat turned into a neutering lecture more than how to get my two precious Yorkies to get along. I am sure I am not the only person out there who has 2 Yorkies who are not fixed... what about breeders? So PLEASE STOP with the the neutering lectures and comments. I am an adult, I know what can happen and in due time they will be. Now back to my original post, if anyone can help me I would appreciate it. Right now I feel like crying because I don't know what to do. Thanks again. __________________ Keri Momma to Buddy Benji

10-14-2008, 09:40 AM	#14
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,259	Sorry to have made you upset, but my comments were based on your posts. You wanted help, advice and opinions on "how to get them to get along" Well, in my experience from dealing with 'boyz' - Yes neutering will help them get along better, as well as 'other things'. If I had this situation, I would start with the basics...first I would eliminate the Testosterone, that is at the root of each dog, then I would move onto positive training methods ~ but obviously 'that type of advice' is not what you want to hear.... __________________ Nicole *"You Won't Change the World by Saving One Animal..BUT...You Will Change the World for that One"*

10-14-2008, 09:48 AM	#15
bildio Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oceanport, NJ Posts: 343	It is important for you to try to relax, and be calm. Your guys can sense your feelings. If you are calm, it will help calm them. They will get along, but it will take patience and time. How much time is hard to predict. Work with them daily, several times daily, if possible, on neutral territory. If one appears to be the aggressor, a firm NO, and a quick separation might help. Don't over do it though. Try to work in some play, like chasing a ball. Your husband should work with one, and you with the other. I got my two guys together, and it took about 1 month. Just about what the breeder of the new addition said it would take. My wife didn't think it would be possible for them to get along, and she is now so pleased to see how well they get along. Last edited by bildio; 10-14-2008 at 09:51 AM.