designer pups...???

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

So if I gave this breeder a call what questions should I ask? I just have no idea what I would be willing to pay for one.

What breeder are you referring to? I'm afraid you lost me.

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

What breeder are you referring to? I'm afraid you lost me.

A breeder that sells Yorkinese...I'm not going to use her name because of issues that could come from me asking.

[Chrissy0277]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I don't see why you should put the bitches life in danger if there is not a goal in producing the litter. Just wanting to make money or experience the birth of puppies is not an acceptable reason for having a litter in my opinion. When you are mixing the question must be asked, what are you trying to produce. If money is the answer you're being irresponsible with your bitches life.

I agree!!!!

[iuplori]

I would ask a lot of the same questions you would ask a purebred breeder. For example, try to find out what characteristics (if any) she looked for and liked in the parents. Ask about the genetic history of both parents, and any previous litters the parents had. Like above posters mentioned, each pup is different, and each has their own potential for health or lack thereof, but I would beware if this was among her first time crossbreeding these specific dogs. I would only want a puppy out of parents that have good references.
I would also ask for the name and number of the breeder's vet and any past customers. Make sure you see the kennel area, and generally speaking, I would find and compare several cross breeders of these two types of dogs before choosing a single breeder.

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

A breeder that sells Yorkinese...I'm not going to use her name because of issues that could come from me asking.

I don't know anything about this breeder. I would never mix a Peke with a yorkie. Peke's have too many problems due to the elongated soft palette for me, why weaken the yorkie by bringing in that mess? Peke's have enough respiratory problems to contend with. Why would you cross them with a yorkie that has the highest incidence of Liver shunt out there? As a breeder I have enough work to do trying to imporve my breed and eliminate the health issues that it faces. When you mix you're opening a whole new can of worms. Why would you want to do that?

[Chrissy0277]

When you mix you're opening a whole new can of worms. Why would you want to do that?

I can sum that up very easily.... its all about the $$$$$

[Wigfur]

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie

I am not for someone making money because the dog is in "fashion".

BUT........ ALL DOGS THAT ARE NOW RECOGNIZED BY AKC..ETC..HAVE COME FROM MIXING OF BREEDS.

It is everybody's right to buy whatever dog type they want, they should not feel persecuted or ashamed for doing so. the only one that should judge anyone is GOD!

I agree 100%

It reminds me of high school, if you didn't wear the name brand jeans you were made fun of by those that did/could. It's sad that others try to make one feel bad for owning a certain dog,and all the dogs we have now are mixes as you said.

[gypsyqueen]

While I would agree there are mixed breeds in the shelter Ive seen maltese and yorkie mix and there beautiful

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by Wigfur

I agree 100%

It reminds me of high school, if you didn't wear the name brand jeans you were made fun of by those that did/could. It's sad that others try to make one feel bad for owning a certain dog,and all the dogs we have now are mixes as you said.

No one has put anyone down for owning a mixed breed, I grew up with mixed breeds. We probably paid around $35. for one. What we are saying is that we think it is wrong for people to mix the breeds, call them designer dogs and charge people a mint for them. They are not an established breed and the temperments and health issues that may come with them are therefore unknown. If I purchased a poodle pup I would know what to expect as far as temperment, health issues, and looks when it grew up. Same goes with each established breed, there is a standard to breed by. You pay more for the dog because it is purebred and you are more likely to get what you were looking for when it grows up. When you buy a mix you never know what you will get. It may take after either parents, both parents or neither. A yorkie poo may look like a poodle, a yorkie or neither. It may have the health issues of either breed or bless it's heart it may have both. It may have a yorkie temperment or a poodle one. You won't know until it's grown. It should cost less because you are taking a gamble.

[iuplori]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

No one has put anyone down for owning a mixed breed, I grew up with mixed breeds. We probably paid around $35. for one. What we are saying is that we think it is wrong for people to mix the breeds, call them designer dogs and charge people a mint for them. They are not an established breed and the temperments and health issues that may come with them are therefore unknown. If I purchased a poodle pup I would know what to expect as far as temperment, health issues, and looks when it grew up. Same goes with each established breed, there is a standard to breed by. You pay more for the dog because it is purebred and you are more likely to get what you were looking for when it grows up. When you buy a mix you never know what you will get. It may take after either parents, both parents or neither. A yorkie poo may look like a poodle, a yorkie or neither. It may have the health issues of either breed or bless it's heart it may have both. It may have a yorkie temperment or a poodle one. You won't know until it's grown. It should cost less because you are taking a gamble.

Very well said, Ladyhawk.

[Olivier]

Some peoples are not even able to select purebred dogs for their breeding programs and they think the can be successful breeding two different breeds together and create a new one . Let me laugh at this silly thing .

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I don't know anything about this breeder. I would never mix a Peke with a yorkie. Peke's have too many problems due to the elongated soft palette for me, why weaken the yorkie by bringing in that mess? Peke's have enough respiratory problems to contend with. Why would you cross them with a yorkie that has the highest incidence of Liver shunt out there? As a breeder I have enough work to do trying to imporve my breed and eliminate the health issues that it faces. When you mix you're opening a whole new can of worms. Why would you want to do that?

I know nothing about the peke's health problems, to be honest I came up on the site looking for a yorkie. Good information for me to think about and research.

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by iuplori

I would ask a lot of the same questions you would ask a purebred breeder. For example, try to find out what characteristics (if any) she looked for and liked in the parents. Ask about the genetic history of both parents, and any previous litters the parents had. Like above posters mentioned, each pup is different, and each has their own potential for health or lack thereof, but I would beware if this was among her first time crossbreeding these specific dogs. I would only want a puppy out of parents that have good references.
I would also ask for the name and number of the breeder's vet and any past customers. Make sure you see the kennel area, and generally speaking, I would find and compare several cross breeders of these two types of dogs before choosing a single breeder.

TY

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by durtymydawg

So from what I've been reading...this is what I gather!

1. Its all about the $$ issue that either you sell them for equal amount as a purebred...why not if someone is willing to pay a decent price? I don't agree with selling them for tons of $$, but I think any decent puppy is worthy of a fair price.

2. Why create more un-neccessary pups when the world is full of them at the shelters....if you truly feel that way then don't breed dogs at all. Don't buy registered or purebred dogs from a breeder and pick your pup/dog up at the shelter. Not trying to sound mean...all dogs or animals deserve a good home. If everyone felt this way then no one would be breeding purebred dogs either.

3. True- what is known as a purebred Yorkie is what started as a cross bred mutt somewhere years ago...just like a paint horse is a mix of different breeds. The assc. was called American Painted Quarter Horse Assc. years ago and then they dropped the word..."Quarter"....and now call it American Paint Horse Assc....correct me if I'm wrong. It happens no matter what animal were talking about...someone-somewhere is crossing breeds to either develop something better or just to give what some people want...a Mutt or as some would say "designer pup".

4. I say, if it sells and is in demand and you can ask and get a fair price for it, then why not offer them? I don't see it hurting the purebred dog, or destroying his or her qualities, and I don't think people are allowed to add them to the AKC or UKC registries. It not like your going to breed a Shorkie back to a reg. Yorkie and be able to have AKC accept it into the registry. Your always going to have people that want that odd ball looking animal, that someone comes along and says..."what is it, its so adorable?".

5. Why not shun the outside registries that are not AKC or UKC....APRI, APR, CKC (continental - not canadian)....or whatever else people have started....just to say there dog is registered or pure. Some of these registries, if I'm correct just go off from the pic of the animal...I would think people would put a stop to that, more so then worry about people mixing breeds and calling them "Designer"....I hate looking at ads, trying to find great quality Reg. purebred pups and then find its only reg. with something like APRI...whats the sense? Its sometimes because of laziness and the breeder doesn't want to have to have their animal DNA done....or maybe the price of registering is cheaper.


Thankyou for responding and being so kind....I expected to really hear the fireworks or be told off. I'm glad for all the responses from people all over the country. I geuss if someone comes to me and wants to crossbreed, then I'll have to make that decision on whether its worth crossing them or not.

Yup that is pretty much what I got from it also.

I find it interesting that the price is always one of the major objections. Just as it is for the off colored yorkies and the so called 'teacups".

People also object to people who breed for quantity and sell cheap.

FYI I also object to this practice, but only because these are puppy mills that don't take care of their dogs and sell their puppies too young.

For those of you who want a "designer' dog and don't like the price. Have you ever offered less to see if they would take it? With the economy the way it is, it's difficult to get a decent price out of a pure bred yorkie let alone a mixed breed.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Chrissy0277

I think alot of it has to do with their size alot of them I see them range over 100 lbs so an untrained 100lb dog is not fun lol

LOL I agree. However is it because they are dumb or because they are really smart. sometimes the smarter ones are the hardest to train because they can outhink you and they do not respond to treats and praise like other dogs.