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07-12-2008, 05:53 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Shore
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| Something is not right. I'm having a problem and I'm wondering if anyone else had had similiar. Jersey is over a year old and she is different then any other Yorkie I've had. Since we got her at 10 weeks she just has not been right. First of all, when she first came to me she was like a fural cat, had hardly any hair and was always cold and she had trouble eating. She was always afraid. She would gobble her food and run and hide after. I chalked that up to where she was at and that maybe she had to fend for herself. Over time the food thing got better and she also got better with letting us pick her up etc. She for the most part is very good with us (meaning myself, hubby and two kids and our other Yorkies) but she will try to bite or attack anyone that comes into our home so we have to gate her. She also is weird in that she is anti social. All the girls like to sleep with me or be near me. Jersey like to be off by herself. She does not sleep with anyone and growls if anyone goes near her. Lately she has been getting veyr aggressive. She for no reason will growl and snap at Lilly. Also the other night she decided to lay up on our bed and hubby came and and said move over Jersey and she growled at him. He yelled and told her don't you growl at me and went to pick her up to move her and she bit him. I went to pick her up and tell her no and she bit me. Now, today she for no reason just started snapping and growling and I went to pick her up and was bitten twice. Not hard she's only 5 pounds but we do not know why this is happening. She almos seems to not know what she is doing because after she just looks at me and licks me lik nothing happened. She's vetted, well cared for, always plenty of food and loved - my girls are my babies. This is nothing we are causing. Believe me. And, I just don't know what to do. We could never rehome her because she would never go with anyone and honestly she is not suitable for any home. I'm wondering if there is somehting wrong in her brain. I've discussed some of th eissues with the vet and he says that it's just her personality but I am convinced that somethin has to be wrong. Also she was always socialized as a pup but like I said she was very skiddish and the best way to describe her is she's just plain crazy. Has anyone had issues like this and if so were they caused by something medical. I am really a wreck. I love my girls and my heart says soemthing is wrong with her. hubby is wearing thin and is afraid she will hurt one of the kids or one of the girls and told me in his oppinion she should be put down but I cannot do that but just don't know what to do. Elaine |
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07-12-2008, 05:58 PM | #2 |
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| I hope someone can give you some advice. Good luck with your baby!!!
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07-12-2008, 05:58 PM | #3 |
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| wow wow that sounds horrible ... I know diffrent lines have diffrent temperments but this sounds like ... a mental issues ... do you know her breeder .. was her first 8 weeks reared right .. was she line bred or inbreed I do know the first 8 weeks are extreemly important to pups ... no matter the cause I hope this works out for you and your family I wish we had a trainer State side for the it Me or the dog show ..outside help may be needed we will be thinking of you
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07-12-2008, 06:05 PM | #4 |
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| I am sorry you are having such trouble. I don't know if it is but sometimes vaccines can cause this, especially rabies. You might want to try a homeopathic vet or if it is not medical a behavior specialist.
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07-12-2008, 06:25 PM | #5 | |
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Just do a search on "overvaccination" and start reading......
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07-12-2008, 06:32 PM | #6 |
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| Thanks guys. I do not have info. on the breeder but know she's not good. Jersey did not have a good start and I chalked a lot of earlier behaviors such as the skiddishness to that but she should have been out of it by now. I did some research and came up with something called Rage Syndrome. It's found in some cockers but also in terriers. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with bad breeding - in breeding possibly but they say Rage Syndrome is not prevetable and it's the way the brain has developed. Jersey has all the symptoms of it. Right down to it occuring more so at night. We call it the witching hour. She also likes to hide in corners and has the glazed out of it look when she gets like this then after she is gentle and loving. Some of what I read have also sugggested that research has shown that this is caused by food allergies. Now, Jersey does have allergies. I am constantly cleaning black sludge out of her ears which the vet said is caused by allergies. I'm going to talk to the vet on Monday. From what I've read there is nothing that can be done if it is Rage Syndrome except try medication and if not they suggest putting the dog down as they are unpredictable and dangerous. I just don't think that is something I'm able to do but at the same time do not know what to do. She is a good girl and very loving with us UNTIL she snaps. Then she is someone we don't recognize and she does not even realize when she is like that. Elaine |
07-12-2008, 06:36 PM | #7 |
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| This is what I found on rage syndrome and this describes Jersey to a T. Right down to the night thing and sleeping in corners by herself. It is found mainly in Cockers but I guess Yorkies could also get it too. http://members.lycos.co.uk/ragesyndr...nda%20Ward.pdf |
07-12-2008, 06:42 PM | #9 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | What you are describing is exactly like my pom. Maya is 11 years old and has bitten me several times. She use to stay under my bed all the time and if I tried to get her out she would snarl like a possessed demon and bite me if I tried to out my hand under the bed. I can't clean her eye gook with out her snapping at me. Only since I brought other dogs into the house has she slept on my bed She has never bitten the other dogs and seems better since I have the other dogs now. When I take her to the vet she is good as gold, will let me and them touch her do anything. I would never have rehomed her since I knew most people wouldn't put up with it and I love her. She can also jump in my lap and kiss me too.She will growl at the others if they are bothering her but nothing more. I just figured she was a pet shop buy and I thought maybe the pom personality was so different than the yorkies I was use to. I never knew how to change her. She went to obedience class and can be off leash and never leave our property, she is very smart but when she doesn't want to be bothered she snaps. I know how you feel.
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07-12-2008, 06:43 PM | #10 |
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| How sad for you and Jersey. You are in our thoughts and our prayers. Hopefully it turns out to be something else. I have never heard of Cocker Rage in yorkies but it is possible. |
07-12-2008, 06:50 PM | #11 |
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| Have you had her bile levels tested? Dogs with liver problems often act "weird" after eating such as hiding and straring, they are also prone to have poor coats and some are aggressive. I would have her levels checked just to be sure she does not have any liver issues...we had a dog in our recue with a shunt and he was similiar to what you are describing and now that he had his shunt fixed he is no longer aggressive, staring, anti-social and his coat is growing in nicely...
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07-12-2008, 07:26 PM | #12 |
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| I am so sorry to hear about Jersey. I think you are right, that it probably is a result of poor breeding. Do you know how she was raised as a puppy? Puppies needs lots of human contact right from the start. If she was raised in a cage without enough human interaction, it would explain her problem with socialization. At one year, when a puppy reaches adulthood, is usually when the aggressive behavior starts in puppies from puppy mill type situations. As Tae1107 suggested, a bile acid test to check for a liver shunt is a good idea. Dogs can have normal liver values on a routine CBC and still have high bile acids. Since Yorkies are 36 times more likely to have a shunt than all other breeds combined and you say she didn't come from a reputable breeder, a shunt is a real possibility. |
07-12-2008, 07:29 PM | #13 | |
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07-12-2008, 07:46 PM | #14 | |
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If I were in your shoes I would not have her put down .She is a young dog. Give her to a rescue group if you can't keep her . I am very sorry your going through this. My Suzi is completly oppisite then Jersey.
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07-12-2008, 08:08 PM | #15 |
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| I would consult with a homeopathic vet IMMEDIATELY. They will be able to counsel you on dietary changes, behavioral modification and through homeopathic remedies, these doctors are able to cure problems that regular vets just CAN'T. My Cavalier King Charles Spaniel had chronic AWFUL colitis and vaccinosis from his rabies vaccine that caused prey behavior and extreme aggression issues. I did a quick look in my homeopathy manual and there are remedies for rage syndromes and mental disorders. Visit AHVMA - Home and naturalholistic.com for a refferal. I was not a believer in homeopathy and now that is how I treat my dogs and myself. I have had chronic health issues my whole life cured by homeopathy and on a side note - this is how the Queen of England gets cared for. Good luck and be prepared to search outside traditional veterinary care - I believe there is hope for your little one and she can find peace and happiness. Please let us know how its going.
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