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Old 08-04-2005, 11:16 PM   #1
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Default What do you think of Mixed Breeds?

The title speaks for itself.

Personaly I think they are just as good as Pure bred dogs as long as properly bred and raised. They could also be better since you can have 2 breeds you like mixed together. Very good as well for those who can't choose between 2 breeds, find a mix of the 2.

Asking for all opinions please no accusations or any threats (bad posts) you all know admin will see and delete either the post or message.

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This can go both ways , you can double the pleasure or double the vet cost .
I don't believe that mix breeds are better than purebred .
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Hello,

In what way don't you think that mixed breeds aren't better than pure breds?
Please specify coat personality the fact that they don't have papers? or the fact that most comes from puppy mills or something else? (If you know why) I know some people just preffer to have a breed with a background as well. Making sure they don't get into too much trouble not knowing what to expect.

I am also talking not in general (mixed breeds) wher you would buy from anyone like puppy mills, but a Mixed breed bred with dogs which have no health problems at all and bred with dogs of high quality (some champion lines as well). Do you personally think that in time they could become better? The word better to me is also hard to say as I think that a breed is only good for a certain type of person who want that look and personality. But I find that in the Mixed breeds you get some personality traits from both sides (more choice) and different looks, To my personal opinion this means that the breed will suit more than 1 type of person as long as there is 2 puppies with 2 different personality mixes and coat changes.

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I also find this interesting please every one post your opinions on this. I am not talking only price. But if someone was to create a dog other than the Yorkie which would look nice (nice coat and beautiful colors) (Great personality with a personality mix of 2 breeds which traits they keep is unpredictable though) (Price is not concern here I know some people like to pay little for their puppy and others like to pay allot for quality.) Would you be interested into buying that mixed breed? or would you rather stick with a pure bred for the papers.

Please don't start with the disease I am talking about creating a mix with dogs that have no diseases and making sure the puppies have no diseases either. It's just that the way you breed the dogs (selective breeding) has allot to do with this and I know some breeders are bad and would breed any dog with any other dog with no concern for disease weight age or even family. (That would not be the case here)

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Do you plan on creating a Yorkie mix free of disease? If so, don't waste your time. All breeds have genetic problems and diseases do not discriminate.

It is not a question of what is better..pure or mixed, in my opinion. I choose not to breed a mix because it takes a home away from the mix in the pound or Humane society.
Purebred Yorkies find their way to the pounds also, but it is very rare for one to not find a forever home. Yorkies mixes are not so lucky. Pound Labs, shepherds, golden, etc mixes stand NO chance of finding homes when breeders produce them a designer pups.

I have known a number of Yorkie mixes..they we re all great little pets..but as far as being healthier, better pets with better coats and colors, I do not find that to be true.
A Poodle is a fine breed, so is a Maltese or a Pom, why breed it with a Yorkie to improve something that does not need to be improved..a waste of time IMO.
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Quote"This dog the Morkie is smart, fun, teasy, stuborn, and many other things. You can actually get different mixtures of personalities with every dog and you are not stuck with only a few personalities. It is also cute adds a color (tricolor). or you can choose the brindle which is also great for the looks but same personalities. You see unlike most breeders I don't try the impossible you tell me what a bad breeder I am breeding mixes what is so wrong with that? They have NO medical problems what so ever (my puppies any way) they are healthy smart home raised cute and loved. If also breed the Yorkie which is stubborn and many people don't know how stubborn they are they simply see the (LOOK) of the dog and want one just the same."

After reading all ofyour posts this morning I am convinced that you are not just going to come out with it and say you breed these dogs purely for profit. You can spout off about health issues and how you think the mixed breed is a better dog than the purebred all day long and at the end of the day the bottom line is you do it to make money.
Nothing you can say is going to convince me otherwise.
But the quote above really pissed me off, it sounds like you are equating personality with breed traits. Responsible breeders educate the people purchasing their puppies on the breed "traits".A responsible buyer will also educate themselves beforehand and decide whether or not the "traits" are something they want to live with. Personality is unique to every dog.
I have owned both a malt and yorkies and frankly they are both equally stubborn. If I didn't think I could live with that I would have purchased a lab.
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Do you plan on creating a Yorkie mix free of disease? If so, don't waste your time. All breeds have genetic problems and diseases do not discriminate.

It is not a question of what is better..pure or mixed, in my opinion. I choose not to breed a mix because it takes a home away from the mix in the pound or Humane society. Not true! If I don't sell mixes someoen else will and the buyers will simply go somewhere else son't start abotu accusing me of taking away homes of sheltered pups. The breeder should not have sold these puppies to the type of person who abandons them in the first place.
Purebred Yorkies find their way to the pounds also, but it is very rare for one to not find a forever home. Yorkies mixes are not so lucky. Pound Labs, shepherds, golden, etc mixes stand NO chance of finding homes when breeders produce them a designer pups.I offer a percentage refund PLUS PAID shipping if a buyer cannot keep a puppy why would they bring it at the pound? If a breeder was irresponsible and sold a puppy to anyone who just basically dumped a dog there then that's not my problem.! NOR IS IT MY FAULT!

I have known a number of Yorkie mixes..they we re all great little pets..but as far as being healthierdependig on which breeder they came from don't forget that!, better pets with better coats and colors, I do not find that to be trueHow my Morkies have beautful coats, their personality is different (personality cannot really be BETTER in words since it depends on the person looking to buy the dog) and right now they are all healthy..If you take the best of each breed i really doubt you would be creating a bad puppy in health. Example: If I create this breed (Morkie) with only the healthyest Yorkies and Maltese are you saying that I would have problems? I knows that all breeds eventually have problems becuase that's with in-breeding. BUT I don't expect this problem for at least 100 years from now if not more? Also depending on other breeders and thier quality.
A Poodle is a fine breed, so is a Maltese or a Pom, why breed it with a Yorkie to improve something that does not need to be improved..a waste of time What ever hapenned to IMPROVE THE BREEDS!!! IMO.
A waste of time? Boy the secret to genetics is all in there, breeding the creation of a new breed. You might think it doesn't (NEED) to be improved you could just as well say you don't NEED a dog. But yet when you can find something you will like and love you get you dog.

To my opinion this is not about (NEED) or how much time is involved, I know that many many years will be needed.

I am sorry for choosing this example but it's best that comes to mind, compare this to a car company who makes the next car, will you tell them don't put your next car model for sale you are improving something that is fine? or Will you view the next car model and if you don't like it you don't have to buy it?

Thank you for your opinion though your opinions are greatly apreciated

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Just wanted to add
IMO a purebred that was bred from unhealthy parents has a much better chance than a, for example, Morkie, who had healthy parents. IMO mixed breeds are just as good as Purebreds. They are cute, love to cuddle, and all in all they love their owner the same way. There is no way in my mind that i would exchange my Morkie Rex for any purebred.
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Quote"This dog the Morkie is smart, fun, teasy, stuborn, and many other things. You can actually get different mixtures of personalities with every dog and you are not stuck with only a few personalities. It is also cute adds a color (tricolor). or you can choose the brindle which is also great for the looks but same personalities. You see unlike most breeders I don't try the impossible you tell me what a bad breeder I am breeding mixes what is so wrong with that? They have NO medical problems what so ever (my puppies any way) they are healthy smart home raised cute and loved. If also breed the Yorkie which is stubborn and many people don't know how stubborn they are they simply see the (LOOK) of the dog and want one just the same."

After reading all ofyour posts this morning I am convinced that you are not just going to come out with it and say you breed these dogs purely for profit. You can spout off about health issues and how you think the mixed breed is a better dog than the purebred all day long and at the end of the day the bottom line is you do it to make money.Ohh don't get me wrong money is involved, after all I would not pay to get a stranger a puppy either. But don't say that money is all there is or I would not be here on this web site talking about the mix I actually want to bring out as a purebred. (IF POSSIBLE)
Nothing you can say is going to convince me otherwise.Very well this is a post to input your opinions
But the quote above really pissed me off, it sounds like you are equating personality with breed traits. Responsible breeders educate the people purchasing their puppies on the breed "traits".A responsible buyer will also educate themselves beforehand and decide whether or not the "traits" are something they want to live with. Personality is unique to every dog.Personality is unique to every dog yes but some traits just keep coming back (they only have a small range of personalities to choose from ) a pure bred doen't have that many. (Not that a Mixe's personality is that much better but it does have a bigger range to choose from)
I have owned both a malt and yorkies and frankly they are both equally stubborn. If I didn't think I could live with that I would have purchased a lab.
I would like to know why some of you think the coat gets that bad??? I know from experience that the coat isn't that bad nothign wors e than the Yorkie or Maltese alone. Don't get me wrong after the research I did and I still learn every day about the Yorkie and the Maltese and the Mix as well. even though money is involved it doesn't mean that I don't care for the dogs. to me it's also the contrary when I meet someone who is only willing to spend 300$ on their dog because they are only worth so much (I REALLY DONT SEE A CUSTOMER!) If the person is not ready to pay 1200$ for a dog (OF ANY BREED) that person fails our 1st requirements to buy a puppy. We also aren't cheep some people start sending us small monthly payment so that in the long run the will have a puppy as long as they can affod at least 100$ per month or I would say 50$ per month since they know how to groom for vet bills (only if needed) food treats toys and other nessecities they will love their new adition. (They don't have to worry about their puppy getting sick it is fully guaranteed) Unless it's somethign else like a viral disease which we only guantantee for 10days. But I am sure that would not make the puppy need expecsive surgery and in any case I don't think we would mind paying for it we rather pay up as opposed to a puppy dying.

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I'll bite. I think there are enough mixes already in the world and intentionally increasing that population for money just doesn't seen right though I DO know it's being done.

There are SO MANY breeds out there and so many dogs needing homes. I think some breeders love a specific breed and some breeders see the profit in the latest fad....NO OFFENSE to anyone - but taking 2 seperate breeds to create a designer dog is just adding to the overpopulation of our precious pets.....I love all dogs - mix or otherwise - but it seems everyone is getting into a field that only few should be doing.

The day will come when a certain breed is totally undistinguishable from another if people keep doing this....no one will know WHAT kind of dog they have.
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Not to create anything, but the reason we did not look for a purebreed is because when we saw Rex's litter we fell in love with him. we did not find the need to spend double the money to a buy purebreed.
~marc-o~good luck with what you decide to do.
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I guess I'm old school on this topic. There are some adorable mixed breed puppies out there but I'm against intentionally breeding mixes for profit. I'm not saying this to anger or hurt anyone..you just asked for our opinions and this is mine. I'm not against anyone selling mixed breed pups either but I think they are not worth the hundreds of dollars breeders are asking and people are shelling out for them. I remember the days when people gave away mixed breed pups, sometimes they sold them for 5 or 10 bucks. I consider anything less than 200.00 to be a reasonable amount for a mixed breed (That pretty much covers adoption fees). If it is the goal of breeders to create a new breed, they need consistently work at achieving the “new” breed and get it recognized. The dogs they are breeding now are a work in progress and should be sold for a very small amount until the breed is established and recognized. When the “new” breed is perfected and reaches the standard that is set for them, I can then see asking larger sums of money..but not for dogs that are still in the developmental stage of the breed. I bought a mixed breed years ago for way less than 100. can't remember the exact amount. She was the cutest little dog, a "designer dog" in the making. she was a Lhaso-poo. She was the most troubled and destructive dog I have ever had! She ate holes in the carpet, could not be house broken, ate window screens and if you put her outside she ate the wood on the house and screen door trying to get in. She ate and destroyed EVERYTHING. Mixing breeds is not going to guarantee good health, temperament or appearance. Every dog is different and just because you mix 2 cute breeds does not mean you are creating a superior dog. I'm not speaking about you, but many breeders whom breed mixes don't give a hoot about long term outcome, they breed them because it's trendy and there’s a money market for them. Bottom line..Designer Breeds are a work in progress and shouldn’t demand high price tags.
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Not to create anything, but the reason we did not look for a purebreed is because when we saw Rex's litter we fell in love with him. we did not find the need to spend double the money to a buy purebreed.
~marc-o~good luck with what you decide to do.
Exactly! You found a cute dog you fell in love with and you expected to get him for less than you would pay for a purebred. Most people seeking mixes do not expect to pay the same amount or higher prices than you would for purebred.
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Not to create anything, but the reason we did not look for a purebreed is because when we saw Rex's litter we fell in love with him. we did not find the need to spend double the money to a buy purebreed.
~marc-o~good luck with what you decide to do.
Thank You although I will wtill be breeding Morkies for sure in the future. Dont forget price for me is also a test and if I see you can't afford a certain puppy we will offer you something as long as you are trying. Telling us a yorkie isn't worth over 60$ for will not get you any deals. Yup we call this a deal because even though we have no trouble selign our puppeis we still offer discount to (customers who cannot pay) if you are a millionare please don't ask for a discount. But if you are a regular person like me and maybe you don't have 1500$ for a Yorkie then let us know what you have and we will help you out. Don't forget that you will need enough income each and every month to pay for food toys trearts groomer's (if any) vet at least once or twice a year (TEETH) (VACCINATIons)

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Not to create anything, but the reason we did not look for a purebreed is because when we saw Rex's litter we fell in love with him. we did not find the need to spend double the money to a buy purebreed.
~marc-o~good luck with what you decide to do.
I totally agree there is nothing wrong with mixes and some of the cutest dogs are mixes - but the over-breeding is a concern to me - You found a puppy that was already born and fell in love and there is NOTHING wrong with that at all !

When I posted about my feelings - it was about the future - not the present...I fear one day there will be millions of dogs running around that no one really knows what they are - we already have that particular problem in this world and intentionally mixing because it's the latest craze seems sad to me.
It's a touchy subject because many people have mixes - nothing wrong with that - but the question WAS asked and this is only My own personal opinion - doesn't mean its right - it's only a feeling on my part.
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