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Old 06-15-2008, 03:20 PM   #1
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Hi everyone I seen this ad Yorkie Stud Service -- Sacramento, CA - provided by The Sacramento Bee in my local paper and was wondering if this color is rare in yorkie's as it states. I'm just curious because I really like that color


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Old 06-15-2008, 03:27 PM   #2
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Hi everyone I seen this ad Yorkie Stud Service -- Sacramento, CA - provided by The Sacramento Bee in my local paper and was wondering if this color is rare in yorkie's as it states. I'm just curious because I really like that color


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not sure myself but I did send her an e-mail on her teacup comment.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:43 PM   #3
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The AKC Breed Standard and YTCA Code of Ethics states that they do not recognize chocolate.

"This includes all gold, born blue, liver (also known as red or chocolate), and parti-colors. One of the reasons for avoiding breeding "off-colored" Yorkies is because it could be a genetic defect that may affect the dog's health. Some health problems can include, but aren't limited to, severe skin problems, allergies, total hair loss and in some cases long-term illness and/or death." See Yorkshire Terrier Club of America (Awards)


Those that advertise this color as "RARE" are being dishonest in that they are just trying to enrich themselves with more money, in spite of the lack of pigment in the dogs they produce which could bring a genetic nightmare to the breed. These dogs should all be neutered. Shame on this person.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:47 PM   #4
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I am not sure about Golden yorkies but here are some links with information I found...take a look they might be helpful!!!

Top Yorkie Genetics Chocolate Yorkies Chocolate Yorkie Red Golden Blue Born Yorkshire Terrier

Red River's Chocolate yorkshire Terrier
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I am not sure if I would call them rare, but there aren't nearly as many golden yorkies as your standard colors. And it doesn't happen too often from two standard color yorkies. However once you have two golden parents they will produce golden puppies. It is the same with chocolates and partis. They all orginated from two standard color yorkies.

I love golden and chocolate yorkies, I think they are so beautiful.

Julz here on YT has a golden yorkie and she is gorgeous!!
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i just saw that ad... It is extremely deceptive. Notice that she wrote that the parents were all black or tan! AND also that the stud produces "teacup" pups .
These are all red flags. That Stud is not even a true Yorkie. Sorry maybe I am wrong to have said that, it is just not the Standard breed.

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Oh wow so Golden yorkies could have problems?
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The AKC Breed Standard and YTCA Code of Ethics states that they do not recognize chocolate.
"This includes all gold, born blue, liver (also known as red or chocolate), and parti-colors. One of the reasons for avoiding breeding "off-colored" Yorkies is because it could be a genetic defect that may affect the dog's health. Some health problems can include, but aren't limited to, severe skin problems, allergies, total hair loss and in some cases long-term illness and/or death." See Yorkshire Terrier Club of America (Awards)


Those that advertise this color as "RARE" are being dishonest in that they are just trying to enrich themselves with more money, in spite of the lack of pigment in the dogs they produce which could bring a genetic nightmare to the breed. These dogs should all be neutered. Shame on this person.
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Oh wow so Golden yorkies could have problems?
It usually shows up right away, not all with the coloring suffer, but so many do, any attempt to breed them should be discouraged. Some people may think "so what if one out of five puppies suffers, they're pretty", but I think this is extremely cruel and selfish attitude.
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another BIG red flag I saw when I went to her web page is her mama dog is 3 lbs!! What the heck is she doing breeding a 3 lb yorkie?????
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To answer your question, yes the color is 'rare' in that it is not one that commonly occurs w/ purebred yorkies. However, it is considered a non-standard fault and should not be bred 'just for the fun of it' or just to get something 'different.' Of course, there are other red flags (such as the advertisement of t-cups, for starters) that would indicate this is not the most reputable person to be dealing with.
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I guess I wouldn't call it "rare" perhaps "unique." I have a friend who has a gold yorkie. He is small though, a little over 3 lbs. He had some trouble health wise when she first got him. I think he was still too young, only 10 weeks. He is a beautiful healthy boy now and is neutered.

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The word 'RARE' must be the reason her stud fee is sooooo high!
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I know it is caused by a recessive gene, acctually not that uncommon, not desirable for the higher risk of more diseases and inheritable disorders. This collor is off-standards world around.... that must be a reason for concern....
Also if it happens the dog should be fixed not pass it on ... not other way around... definatelly not a reason to be advertizing it for stud....
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The AKC Breed Standard and YTCA Code of Ethics states that they do not recognize chocolate.

"This includes all gold, born blue, liver (also known as red or chocolate), and parti-colors. One of the reasons for avoiding breeding "off-colored" Yorkies is because it could be a genetic defect that may affect the dog's health. Some health problems can include, but aren't limited to, severe skin problems, allergies, total hair loss and in some cases long-term illness and/or death." See Yorkshire Terrier Club of America (Awards)


Those that advertise this color as "RARE" are being dishonest in that they are just trying to enrich themselves with more money, in spite of the lack of pigment in the dogs they produce which could bring a genetic nightmare to the breed. These dogs should all be neutered. Shame on this person.

I'd like to comment on the Genetic portion of this thread.

With the exception of Blue born Yorkies (who more often than not, do have skin, coat and health problems), the Parti, chocolate and golden colored yorkies are no more prone to genetic or health problems than the traditional colored yorkies are. I wish YTCA would accurately note this on their site but instead the information they've written, leads people to assume that ALL off colors could be genetically defective and be more prone to health problems - they are not! The health problems YTCA has noted, are the health problems associated with the blue born yorkies and not the parti's, chocolates, goldens or black and tans.

Put simply - Parti's have a gene that causes spotting, chocolates have a double dose of a gene that dilutes the pigment/coat color, goldens lack a gene that produces the black saddles and black and tan colored yorkies lack a grey dilution gene that causes their coats to turn to the desired steel blue color. All these colors are considered to be "off color" but they are no more prone to health or genetic problems than the standard blue and tan yorkies are.
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Sue, thanks for posting a true explanation.
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