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2blkcatsmom · 06-01-2008, 12:18 PM

is it that bad to buy from a pet shop ? rescue will not let you adopt if you have small kids they say your kids have to be ages 10 and up. breeders have also told me the same thing that they do not sell yorkies or any breed . im not sure yet what i am going for yorkie or pom but i cant find any yorkie breeder willing to give me a chance im not willing to wait till my 2 year old turns 10 so im kind of thinking go to the pet shop i know they may or may not come from puppy mills but they do come with a contract that says if the dog gets sick or dies they will refund your money or let you have a new puppy . so im not sure i am close to giving up and just going to a pet shop .im not looking to buy now i want a yorkie in 1 or 2 years so i guess by then my son will be 4 still im not willing to wait till he is 10 .i guess i just want to know why its so wrong to buy from a pet shop someone is going to buy them any way why not me

Epsilon · 06-01-2008, 12:29 PM

Most pet shop puppies come from puppy mills. If you purchase a puppy from a pet shop, you will be supporting this disgusting business. Someone may or may not purchase that puppy if you don't. Hopefully it'll get too old for the pet stores liking and they send it to a shelter where someone can adopt it. Please do NOT buy from a pet store. I know that many breeders are strict about how old children are in the home. I also know that many children do well with small animals. How much experience does your son have with small animals? I recommend looking for a breeder with a yorkie that's a little bigger than average (at least 7 pounds). They would probably be more likely to let you purchase a larger yorkie, especially if you were willing to wait until it was a little older. I would search around the breeders on YT. Just please don't contribute to the income of puppy mills... please.

Baby Madeleine · 06-01-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2blkcatsmom

is it that bad to buy from a pet shop ? rescue will not let you adopt if you have small kids they say your kids have to be ages 10 and up. breeders have also told me the same thing that they do not sell yorkies or any breed . im not sure yet what i am going for yorkie or pom but i cant find any yorkie breeder willing to give me a chance im not willing to wait till my 2 year old turns 10 so im kind of thinking go to the pet shop i know they may or may not come from puppy mills but they do come with a contract that says if the dog gets sick or dies they will refund your money or let you have a new puppy . so im not sure i am close to giving up and just going to a pet shop .im not looking to buy now i want a yorkie in 1 or 2 years so i guess by then my son will be 4 still im not willing to wait till he is 10 .i guess i just want to know why its so wrong to buy from a pet shop someone is going to buy them any way why not me

It's wrong (IMO) because you are aware of puppymills and the fact that most pet store puppies are puppymill puppies. It would be different if you weren't educated about puppymills but based on what you said above you do know about them. Yorkies are little and can be delicate so having one around a small child can be dangerous...not saying it is dangerous in every situation, just saying it can be. You want a healthy happy puppy so give it some serious thought.

marcerella02 · 06-01-2008, 12:38 PM

you are only fooling yourself to say "they may or may not come from a puppy mill" THEY DO. NO responsible breeder would bring his/her puppy to a pet store to be sold. Yorkie puppies need supervision 24/7- which does not happen at a petstore.. they are alone all night and are not getting the proper socalization. By buying from there you are saying that puppy mills are ok- the petstore will see this and will keep selling puppies because people keep buying them. There is a reason that people with small children should not have yorkies. The breeders are not trying to be mean but i'm sure people could line up here to tell you what has happened with yorkies and small children. Just yesterday i had Layla around an 18 month old little boy... my eyes were glued on them both and he almost fell on her. It's just not worth the risk. I hope you will condsider a larger breed from a reputable breeder.

autumn star · 06-01-2008, 12:39 PM

Before I knew any better like a lot of us right here at YT I purchased not one but two pugs from a Kennel that I now know get some of their pups from mills all over the country.
I will never support this again. I have been in some pet stores and the site and smell is just awful.
Don't be discouraged, there is a breeder out there that will sell their pup to you. Before we found Autumn I went and met w/a yorkie breeder that had two males available. One she would sell me the other she said she would not just for the safety of him because she did not est. that he would be over 3lbs and being that I am the mother of two she would not feel comfortable regardless of how well behaved my kids are. I totally respected that! The other one she had would be closer to 5-6lbs and she was okay w/that.
Knowing what I know now, I would sit back and wait, the right breeder and pup will come your way. Who know's it might even come from right here at YT!
Its well worth the wait, I would not want to take the chance of getting a sick pup (not saying that all petstore pups are sick) and racking up possible $1000's in vet bills!!!!

Good luck and let us know how things turn out for you!

Rae Rae · 06-01-2008, 12:42 PM

Finding the right yorkie takes a lot of time, I know theres people on here who have looked for years before they found a breeder and yorkie perfect for them. I know it's hard to be patient, and the idea of purchasing from a petstore sounds so much easier, but in the long run I think it will be more complicated, if not for getting a sick dog, then for what the puppies parents are going through back at the puppy mill.

Have you tried craigslist, or newspaper ads that have people looking to rehome their yorkie? I personally would never be able to buy from a petstore after knowing what goes on behind closed doors. And petstores will tell you that their dogs come from "breeders"..more like "greeders". Even if it's not by definition a puppymill, the puppy is still coming from people who care all about the dollar, and nothing about the dog.

Misti1 · 06-01-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2blkcatsmom

is it that bad to buy from a pet shop ? rescue will not let you adopt if you have small kids they say your kids have to be ages 10 and up. breeders have also told me the same thing that they do not sell yorkies or any breed . im not sure yet what i am going for yorkie or pom but i cant find any yorkie breeder willing to give me a chance im not willing to wait till my 2 year old turns 10 so im kind of thinking go to the pet shop i know they may or may not come from puppy mills but they do come with a contract that says if the dog gets sick or dies they will refund your money or let you have a new puppy . so im not sure i am close to giving up and just going to a pet shop .im not looking to buy now i want a yorkie in 1 or 2 years so i guess by then my son will be 4 still im not willing to wait till he is 10 .i guess i just want to know why its so wrong to buy from a pet shop someone is going to buy them any way why not me

The pet shop I bought from (before I knew better), only gave you a 72 hour health guarantee anyway...anything that happened after that was on you, and the little yorkie I babysat a couple of weeks ago for it's parents cost them 1,200.00 in vet bills one week after purchase and almost died, and they just had to eat it.

NYYJeterGrl626 · 06-01-2008, 12:47 PM

Since you don't plan on buying a yorkie for another yr or 2, I would continue to research and find breeders that are willing to sell a yorkie to you with a small child. There is a breeder section here and I am sure there are some members located in NC that maybe able to help you find a good breeder. I would not purchase a puppy from a pet store. My first dog came from one but I wasn't aware of puppy mills at the time.

. I think you have plenty of time to find a yorkie.
DON'T GIVE UP AND DON'T SETTLE FOR A PET STORE PUPPY.

Woogie Man · 06-01-2008, 12:55 PM

Rescues and breeders are looking out for the puppy's (and ultimately your) best interest in not placing a pup in a home with a small child. The risk of injury is too great with small dogs. I occasionally have a larger pup that I would consider for a home with a small child but never a small Yorkie. Perhaps you can find a breeder that has a larger pup from time to time and see if they would consider such a pup for you. The larger Yorkies are all Yorkie but are much more robust and less injury prone. Check out some of the 'Teapots' here to see just how adorable they can be.

2blkcatsmom · 06-01-2008, 01:11 PM

thanks for the advise and thank you everyone for not being mean . i do know better than to go to a pet shop its just i dont want to wait till my son is 10 and i figured they get sold anyway why not come to my home where they will be my friend and be loved and spoiled . but il keep looking im just not willing to take any other breed other than a yorkie or pom i will not change my mind on that. the shelters said how about this breed or that breed i said no thanks i want a dog under 15 pounds i want some thing small and cute and i guess everyone is right the vet bills that may come with a pet shop dog for that price i could buy my dog a real LV dog carrier . so thanks for telling me what needed to hear i know the truth i was just hoping mabe there was a small chance a pet shop was ok i guess i was wrong and il just wait and keep looking .

kyancer · 06-01-2008, 01:15 PM

Sebastian came from a petstore. I didn't know about puppy mills until I joined YT after already buying Sebastian

. It deeply saddens me that that is where he came from, and although he has been healthy and a great puppy (I got really lucky) I will never be able to support pet stores again. I have 3 small children. A 4 year old, 2 year old, and 4 month old. They do really well with him...but I have to watch like a hawk still. They are clumsy, so I can't let them run around near him, or play with him unless they are sitting down. I really have to spend a lot of time supervising, and I knew this ahead of time, but it's always more work than you anticipate. I do love Sebastian with all my heart and love having him in our family. But, I do realize now why Yorkies aren't usually placed in homes with small children. Sebastian is safe, but it's just a whole lot of extra work and worry for me. I definitely think a Pom would be a better option. My MIL had one and he was great around the kids and definitely more robust than Sebastian

.

4doggiemama · 06-01-2008, 01:24 PM

First of all, if I haven't welcomed you to YT, I do so now. Welcome!!!!

Then have you checked this thread? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...apot-ears.html

It will tell you how absolutely darling "teapots" are. There are pics that show how super cute they are. Please give some "teapot" a chance!

ScootieBootie · 06-01-2008, 01:43 PM

Why is it so bad? Because every puppy bought from a puppy mill condemns the mama dog and female pups from that litter to YEARS of forced breeding, life in a small cell, living in feces and urine from themselves and other dogs.

These pups come from places that DO not give vet care to their dogs. Most are sick and suffering, with ailments that could be taken care of from a vet.

The only way to get puppy mills to go out of business is everyone gets educated and refuses to purchase from a pet store.

I'm sorry that breeders and rescues will not let you adopte because your child is not old enough. However, reputable places have this in place for the safety of the dog. This does not mean YOU would not be a good pet parent, or that you are unable to safely raise a dog. It just takes into account the fact that small children are most often rough, want to pick up the dog, or could get bit from sharp puppy teeth.

Have you had a dog in the past with your child? If so, what type and did you have any issues?

ScootieBootie · 06-01-2008, 01:52 PM

I just found this on my local (Fayetteville NC) craigslist:
Yorshire Terrier

joy and bella · 06-01-2008, 01:53 PM

i actually bought bella from a woman who claimed to be a breeder but absolutly was not. i am ashamed to say how stupid i was when purchasing her. she was pretty much running a pet store from her house. i got very lucky with her but it is so sad what they do to those puppies. there are soo many awesome breeders out there, you will find one that will sell a puppy to someone with kids! i promise! just keep looking!!!

06-01-2008, 12:18 PM	#1
2blkcatsmom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: elizabeth city,NC Posts: 190	is it that wrong to go to a pet shop is it that bad to buy from a pet shop ? rescue will not let you adopt if you have small kids they say your kids have to be ages 10 and up. breeders have also told me the same thing that they do not sell yorkies or any breed . im not sure yet what i am going for yorkie or pom but i cant find any yorkie breeder willing to give me a chance im not willing to wait till my 2 year old turns 10 so im kind of thinking go to the pet shop i know they may or may not come from puppy mills but they do come with a contract that says if the dog gets sick or dies they will refund your money or let you have a new puppy . so im not sure i am close to giving up and just going to a pet shop .im not looking to buy now i want a yorkie in 1 or 2 years so i guess by then my son will be 4 still im not willing to wait till he is 10 .i guess i just want to know why its so wrong to buy from a pet shop someone is going to buy them any way why not me

06-01-2008, 12:29 PM	#2
Epsilon Donating YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 477	Most pet shop puppies come from puppy mills. If you purchase a puppy from a pet shop, you will be supporting this disgusting business. Someone may or may not purchase that puppy if you don't. Hopefully it'll get too old for the pet stores liking and they send it to a shelter where someone can adopt it. Please do NOT buy from a pet store. I know that many breeders are strict about how old children are in the home. I also know that many children do well with small animals. How much experience does your son have with small animals? I recommend looking for a breeder with a yorkie that's a little bigger than average (at least 7 pounds). They would probably be more likely to let you purchase a larger yorkie, especially if you were willing to wait until it was a little older. I would search around the breeders on YT. Just please don't contribute to the income of puppy mills... please. __________________ Leanna and Epsilon http://llofte.wordpress.com/

06-01-2008, 12:38 PM	#4
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	you are only fooling yourself to say "they may or may not come from a puppy mill" THEY DO. NO responsible breeder would bring his/her puppy to a pet store to be sold. Yorkie puppies need supervision 24/7- which does not happen at a petstore.. they are alone all night and are not getting the proper socalization. By buying from there you are saying that puppy mills are ok- the petstore will see this and will keep selling puppies because people keep buying them. There is a reason that people with small children should not have yorkies. The breeders are not trying to be mean but i'm sure people could line up here to tell you what has happened with yorkies and small children. Just yesterday i had Layla around an 18 month old little boy... my eyes were glued on them both and he almost fell on her. It's just not worth the risk. I hope you will condsider a larger breed from a reputable breeder. __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

06-01-2008, 12:39 PM	#5
autumn star Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 6,095	Before I knew any better like a lot of us right here at YT I purchased not one but two pugs from a Kennel that I now know get some of their pups from mills all over the country. I will never support this again. I have been in some pet stores and the site and smell is just awful. Don't be discouraged, there is a breeder out there that will sell their pup to you. Before we found Autumn I went and met w/a yorkie breeder that had two males available. One she would sell me the other she said she would not just for the safety of him because she did not est. that he would be over 3lbs and being that I am the mother of two she would not feel comfortable regardless of how well behaved my kids are. I totally respected that! The other one she had would be closer to 5-6lbs and she was okay w/that. Knowing what I know now, I would sit back and wait, the right breeder and pup will come your way. Who know's it might even come from right here at YT! Its well worth the wait, I would not want to take the chance of getting a sick pup (not saying that all petstore pups are sick) and racking up possible $1000's in vet bills!!!! Good luck and let us know how things turn out for you! __________________ *PROUD MOM OF (SKIN KIDS) LEXI & HUNTER AND (FUR KIDS) AUTUMN, BLAZE & CHANCE (OUR RESCUE)*

06-01-2008, 12:42 PM	#6
Rae Rae YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,823	Finding the right yorkie takes a lot of time, I know theres people on here who have looked for years before they found a breeder and yorkie perfect for them. I know it's hard to be patient, and the idea of purchasing from a petstore sounds so much easier, but in the long run I think it will be more complicated, if not for getting a sick dog, then for what the puppies parents are going through back at the puppy mill. Have you tried craigslist, or newspaper ads that have people looking to rehome their yorkie? I personally would never be able to buy from a petstore after knowing what goes on behind closed doors. And petstores will tell you that their dogs come from "breeders"..more like "greeders". Even if it's not by definition a puppymill, the puppy is still coming from people who care all about the dollar, and nothing about the dog. __________________ Owned by Rocky and Bella

06-01-2008, 12:47 PM	#8
NYYJeterGrl626 YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clearwater FL Posts: 291	Since you don't plan on buying a yorkie for another yr or 2, I would continue to research and find breeders that are willing to sell a yorkie to you with a small child. There is a breeder section here and I am sure there are some members located in NC that maybe able to help you find a good breeder. I would not purchase a puppy from a pet store. My first dog came from one but I wasn't aware of puppy mills at the time. . I think you have plenty of time to find a yorkie. DON'T GIVE UP AND DON'T SETTLE FOR A PET STORE PUPPY. __________________ Tobey Isabella SonnyShelleySimonMember of the Spoiled Rotten Club

06-01-2008, 12:55 PM	#9
Woogie Man Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,564	Rescues and breeders are looking out for the puppy's (and ultimately your) best interest in not placing a pup in a home with a small child. The risk of injury is too great with small dogs. I occasionally have a larger pup that I would consider for a home with a small child but never a small Yorkie. Perhaps you can find a breeder that has a larger pup from time to time and see if they would consider such a pup for you. The larger Yorkies are all Yorkie but are much more robust and less injury prone. Check out some of the 'Teapots' here to see just how adorable they can be.

06-01-2008, 01:11 PM	#10
2blkcatsmom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: elizabeth city,NC Posts: 190	thanks for the advise and thank you everyone for not being mean . i do know better than to go to a pet shop its just i dont want to wait till my son is 10 and i figured they get sold anyway why not come to my home where they will be my friend and be loved and spoiled . but il keep looking im just not willing to take any other breed other than a yorkie or pom i will not change my mind on that. the shelters said how about this breed or that breed i said no thanks i want a dog under 15 pounds i want some thing small and cute and i guess everyone is right the vet bills that may come with a pet shop dog for that price i could buy my dog a real LV dog carrier . so thanks for telling me what needed to hear i know the truth i was just hoping mabe there was a small chance a pet shop was ok i guess i was wrong and il just wait and keep looking .

06-01-2008, 01:15 PM	#11
kyancer Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 237	Sebastian came from a petstore. I didn't know about puppy mills until I joined YT after already buying Sebastian . It deeply saddens me that that is where he came from, and although he has been healthy and a great puppy (I got really lucky) I will never be able to support pet stores again. I have 3 small children. A 4 year old, 2 year old, and 4 month old. They do really well with him...but I have to watch like a hawk still. They are clumsy, so I can't let them run around near him, or play with him unless they are sitting down. I really have to spend a lot of time supervising, and I knew this ahead of time, but it's always more work than you anticipate. I do love Sebastian with all my heart and love having him in our family. But, I do realize now why Yorkies aren't usually placed in homes with small children. Sebastian is safe, but it's just a whole lot of extra work and worry for me. I definitely think a Pom would be a better option. My MIL had one and he was great around the kids and definitely more robust than Sebastian . __________________ Kristina Mommy to Sebastian

06-01-2008, 01:24 PM	#12
4doggiemama Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: KS Posts: 3,289	First of all, if I haven't welcomed you to YT, I do so now. Welcome!!!! Then have you checked this thread? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...apot-ears.html It will tell you how absolutely darling "teapots" are. There are pics that show how super cute they are. Please give some "teapot" a chance! __________________ Joanne Eli ChipperEva Snowboy Rosie(R.I.P. 1996-July 29, 2013) Cocoa(R.I.P 1998-April 26, 2012):

06-01-2008, 01:43 PM	#13
ScootieBootie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2008 Location: NC Posts: 285	Why is it so bad? Because every puppy bought from a puppy mill condemns the mama dog and female pups from that litter to YEARS of forced breeding, life in a small cell, living in feces and urine from themselves and other dogs. These pups come from places that DO not give vet care to their dogs. Most are sick and suffering, with ailments that could be taken care of from a vet. The only way to get puppy mills to go out of business is everyone gets educated and refuses to purchase from a pet store. I'm sorry that breeders and rescues will not let you adopte because your child is not old enough. However, reputable places have this in place for the safety of the dog. This does not mean YOU would not be a good pet parent, or that you are unable to safely raise a dog. It just takes into account the fact that small children are most often rough, want to pick up the dog, or could get bit from sharp puppy teeth. Have you had a dog in the past with your child? If so, what type and did you have any issues?

06-01-2008, 01:52 PM	#14
ScootieBootie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2008 Location: NC Posts: 285	I just found this on my local (Fayetteville NC) craigslist: Yorshire Terrier

06-01-2008, 01:53 PM	#15
joy and bella Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: florida Posts: 1,232	i actually bought bella from a woman who claimed to be a breeder but absolutly was not. i am ashamed to say how stupid i was when purchasing her. she was pretty much running a pet store from her house. i got very lucky with her but it is so sad what they do to those puppies. there are soo many awesome breeders out there, you will find one that will sell a puppy to someone with kids! i promise! just keep looking!!! __________________ I LOVE my baby girl Bella!!!! She is my world!!