What Do I Do? LeiLani Passed Monday, Do I get a 5 Yr old Girl or Baby Boy?

[Diana Sophia]

I need advise before Sunday! Please, anyone who can help me with making a decision... I would appreciate it. Here is my Yorkie Story that ended before it started.

For some reason I kept attracting Breeder's who cared about making a buck, instead of the welfare of the wonderful Yorkie Breed.
So a took two steps back or should I say three! And I started to research Yorkies and why Breeders wanted to breed them. This is how I met one of the most wonderful people I've ever known. Who I want in my life forever.

She is a Show Breeder and I got on her waiting list for a girl. Finally the time came when she was going to breed one of top bitches. Then we had to wait to see if it took. Yeah, she was pregnant! So, 63 days later Bayley gave birth to 4 babies (3 boys & 1 girl) and the girl was very small compared to any other dogs. I guess I didn't understand how small she was and how bad this was! She was 3.9oz and her brother were more the twice her size.
We finally started getting close to the 6 week mark, when I would be able to make the long drive and come and see her for the first time. This is when things started to go very wrong!
It all happened last Friday night when Breeder called and said she needed to take LeiLani to the Vets Office first thing Saturday Morning. The Vet advised her to take her to see a Neurologist and test her for Hypocephalus (water on the Brain). She scheduled the first available visit which wasn't until Wednesday.

Well, before the weekend even ended... LeiLani had stopped eating and drinking. She was taken back to the Vet on Monday and the Vet informed her that LeiLani had taken a turn for the worse and that she was not going to recover from it. She was just to small to fight. She had nothing to fight with. She is sooo small!
So on May 19th she lot her short little life and I lost my heart.

She was the only girl in the litter and I waited 1-1/2 years for her. Three Words! I AM DEVASTATED!

So after a week of crying and not sleeping... I emailed my Breeder to ask what my options were. Well, we have two or three...

One... She had just brought another one of her Bitches (Bayley) back from Southern California were she was Bred. So, now we are waiting to see if she is pregnant. If she is... then we "hope" she will have a girl. Delivery is roughly around July 7th and then the babies will be ready 12 weeks later (Sept 29th) OMG that is a long time to wait... again!

Two... She has 1 boy left from LeiLani's litter that are going to be ready June 25... every time I think about getting a boy, I cry... and cry... I don't know why this is so upsetting to me. I want a girl sooo bad! I have about $400-$500 worth of girl stuff waiting at my house.

Three... My Breeder bought a female (Lola) who is now 5 years old. She came from Georgina @ Sapphire Yorkies in Northern California (she's on YTCA). She started to show her and she collected 5-6 points on for her Champion title.
Well, short story.. her son fell sick and passed away and she mover "All" of her dogs to different Show friends homes to help her. The person who took Lola had problems Showing her. Lola was home sick and would only show for her original mom. So Lola came home and more problems happened. My Breeders "Grandma Dog" and Lola started to fight for the "Top Dog Spot" in the house. So Lola went to live with my Breeders Daughter were she was the only dog but the Daughter is in Medical School and she is always gone.

So my Breeder offered Lola to me and I'm really confused now! I want a puppy... but she died, She has a puppy... but it's a boy, and Lola is a "perfect top dog" but she is not a puppy she is aleady 5 years old.
Every time I try to type out a list of Pros & Cons I just cry.

What do I do... I'm driving up to the Breeders Sunday Morning to look at both Lola and LeiLani brother. Or do I wait for another 4-1/2 months for a girl, and what if she doesn't have any girls.

I'm so confused! Does anyone have any "Great Advise for me" I need it!

[Sunnie]

Oh hon, what a touigh decision. I don't know what to say. If it was ME, I would wait for the little girl baby you want. I have no doubt you would love a little boy just as much, but if you had your heart set on a girl, I would wait. I am sad for the 5 year old, but you have to remember that you would be missing and important time in her life. I don't know.. I just think if it were me I would wait.

[mayfateleadyou]

If you having to get a boy upsets you so much you obviously you really need to get a girl. I went through the pros and cons of getting a puppy vs an adult. One the puppy is raised where you can help develope some of its habits and training. An adult has already been potty trained (if its the right one) they should be used to a harness and leash (remember I'm not talking in terms of rescue) they seem to take new situations a little better then pups. A puppy is usually easier to train. But in the end its what you feel. If you don't automatically fall in love with the adult wait a little while. I know 4 1/2 months seem so far away but it really isn't. Just trust your heart. Right now it hurts but it will lead you in the right path. Obviously that sweet little pup wasn't meant for you but maybe she was meant to lead you your rightful companion!

[piptickle]

I think you need time to grieve so maybe that 4 1/2 month wait would be the best choice! But there may be no girls, there may not even be any pups. So my advice is wait but don't build your hopes again, awful things happen, you need to be patient and you will find your perfect girl! Good luck!!!

[Juliealfies mum]

It all depends on the little girls personality if she is well rounded if everything apart from the dominance issues ie house trained ,well socialised etc well you have an instant little girl but if it's a puppy you want go for the boy or wait for a baby girl.

When I got Alfie I wanted a girl so badly ,I even had some things in pink things!!! But when I went to see the puppies Alfie just melted my heart and I was sold hook line and sinker.....
So if you are going up anyway let the doggie chose you but be careful, dont take any of them if you are not ready. As the little girl seems to have been run around a lot and it would not be fair to take her if you dont instantly want her, and the little boy deserves to be loved and kept forever.

[Reese1]

I think you just need to do some soul searching as to what's best for you!

We planned on getting another female puppy this year as a playmate for Wrigley who is almost two. ( Crosley is 6 1/2 and would just rather sleep )
Anyway, when Yorkieshadow posted on YT about a two year old girl that a breeder was selling, we decided to check her out and we ended up adopting her! On the way there I was kind of sad at the thought we wouldn't have a puppy, but a month later and I don't have those thoughts anymore! We love her like crazy!
I would suggest going there and checking out the male and the adult female and see how you connect and interact with them, that should give you the answer!
Good luck!

[nygee]

Sorry to hear about Leilani's condition, I understand how devastated you are at this moment...
But if you've got your heart set on a girl, wait, you've waited almost 2 yrs already....
But boys are wonderful too!!! Also about the 5 yr old that needs a mommy... Can you afford her and a pup?
Well Good Luck with your decision!!

Leilani's a

[leipshen]

First, let me say that my heart goes out to you. There is just something so special about Yorkies that you do actually fall in love with the very idea of owning one. Once you know that a baby is waiting for you, you fall in love with the puppy before you ever even see it.

I am so sorry for your loss.

As for your the confusion you are experiencing...

i realize that you have found a breeder whom you greatly respect and trust. It is understandable that you want to get your baby from someone with these all important qualities. I would, however, consider the possibility of asking your breeder (friend) if she might be willing to refer you to another breeder that she knows and also trusts. If she is a very reputable breeder chances are that she knows of other equally as trustworthy breeders. I am sure she feels great compassion, as well , great appreciation for your loyal patience. This is simething you might think about.

As for your strong desire for a little girl...I also used to feel exactly like yourself. Throughout my entire life I have always owned female dogs. I simply never even considered owning a male. Well...that was until I owned my first Yorkie!

I came to being "Armani's" mom as a matter of "CIRCUMSTANCES." My daughter had bought this absolutely adorable tiny Yorkie. She had taken a long time finding just the right one. He was extrememy tiny. He was 14 wks when she brought him home. He weighed under a pound. He was cheeky, playful, loving and oh so brave. Still, I thought to myself that I would have gotten a female, ( I could not have given any explicite reason for this). After only one week of being around this delightful little spitit, and being constantly made to laugh and smile at this this "little man's" adorable personality, I must have fallen deeply in love with him. I guess I didn't realize just how very attached I had become (remember he belonged to my daughter), until the second week that he lived with us.

My daughter worked and "Armani" was home with me. I noticed that he seemed listless. He didn'[t want to eat. At the time I knew nothing of Hypoglycemia. After sitting with him for approx 1 hour, I became extremely frightened . I knew in my heart that this puppy was in danger. It was evening so I rushed hin to the emergency vet. My daughter met me there. They took little "Armani" in, not letting us go back with him. The minute he was out of my sight, I completely went to pieces. The vet came out to say he was very sick. His blood sugar had dropped dramatically. I sobbed. I could not picture going home and living another day without that happy faced little soul. They told us we should go home, they would keep us informed. My daughter left. I could not go home. I could not go into the house without him. I stayed for 4 more hours, Each hour the vet would give me a report. By the fourth hour the vet told me that he had come around very well. He was going to be fine.

I cried so hard from happiness and thanked Jesus out loud, over and over. The office girls said" "Wow"!, "You really love that little guy"! I then realized just how much I adored him. Once home he was back to his bouncy, happy, loving self.

Even with the best of care, and my paying attention to every detail I had learned, "Armani" experienced 3 more episodes like the first one. I had learned a great deal and I sat up with him, and attended to him minute by minute. Thank God, he came through each time. After he reached 6 months he never again had an episode of hypoglycemia.

Throughout this six months, I guess my daughter had been observing this great bond which had developed between this precious little boy Yorkie and myself. She came to me one day and told me that she had put a deposit on a little female Pom puppy. When I looked at her with question she said "Mom" , I believe that God decided who was going to be "Armani"s mommy before I even bought him." "I was only meant to be the one to bring him home to you, because we both know that if you had been the one out looking for a puppy...you would have bought the wrong one...A Female"!

I hugged her, then she started telling me about her new baby girl.

Ya know..I couldn't help thinking..."If it were me..I would have gotten a BOY!!

Have great faith that God feels and understands the pain and confusion you are now experiencing. Allow yourself to be comforted with this knowledge.Then believe this truth...We will always hunger for the reasons why...God knows us better than we know ourselves, only He knows Why, however, if you are willing to "LET GO and LET HIM, you will immediately realize that you don't have to make any decision at all right now. Keeping your heart and mind open..to being led by these circumstances..go to see, whenever an opportunity is presented to you...KNOWING that He is leading you right to the special Yorkie that He has intended for you. At the moment this occurs, you will not feel confused or the need to decide...You Will Know!

You have so much to look forward to!!!!

God Bless

[wildcard]

I would give serious consideration to the boy. I LOVE male dogs. My boys are all mommy's boys, and although they are outgoing with others there is no question who is their #1 person. My girls are sweet too, but with the exception of one of them (from my first litter) they are a little fickle.
That you found a good, reputable and honest breeder is key. I'd not base my decision on gender. Breeders like her are not a dime a dozen and if she has a suitable, loveable boy puppy I'd take back the pink stuff and start shopping all over again. Really, the accessories are not important compared to having a healthy, socialized puppy who just happens to be a boy instead of a girl.

If you like the boy puppy, don't let his gender scare you off. He will be a wonderful, loyal best friend to you.

[spr377]

Originally Posted by wildcard

I would give serious consideration to the boy. I LOVE male dogs. My boys are all mommy's boys, and although they are outgoing with others there is no question who is their #1 person. My girls are sweet too, but with the exception of one of them (from my first litter) they are a little fickle.
That you found a good, reputable and honest breeder is key. I'd not base my decision on gender. Breeders like her are not a dime a dozen and if she has a suitable, loveable boy puppy I'd take back the pink stuff and start shopping all over again. Really, the accessories are not important compared to having a healthy, socialized puppy who just happens to be a boy instead of a girl.

If you like the boy puppy, don't let his gender scare you off. He will be a wonderful, loyal best friend to you.

Well said!

[bgeier]

I agree with Wildcard. Male puppies are SO different (from my experience) than girl puppies. My male, Deucy is SO loving and caring, intuitive as to my mood, a mama's boy for SURE and full of endless devotion. My female was not the same. I fell in love with Deucy when I first saw him as a baby. We love eachother, go everywhere together, eat together and sleep together. He is my protector, my VERY BEST friend and SO SMART. He knows so many words now. I just can't explain the love he has for me and I for him. We are inseparable till death. He will be 3 in September. He cared for the babies as a daddy CONSTANTLY. HE never left them as the mother did so often. He treats me the same way. He takes care of me and I spare no expense in taking care of him. We're the perfect team and I always have a smile on my face because of him. SOOOO precious!!

On another note: I'm thinking of getting a maltese baby girl. Went and looked at her and just LOVE her already. She's just a baby now but, sometimes I think Deucy would like to have a playmate his size. I'm also thinking about MAYBE breeding them ONCE before I have her spayed to have ONE litter of morkies. The little morkies are SO CUTE and smart!! I'll decide this weekend whether to buy her or not. I KNOW Deucy would mother her and take care of her while she is growing up. He would absolutely LOVE to care for a baby again and she could grow up to be his lifelong playmate.

[tjdmom]

Well, I guess I'll add my two cents here. First off, I am so sorry for your loss and I can understand how upset and disappointed you are. I'm thinking maybe you need some time to kind of recover from that so maybe it's ok to wait for another litter but then I guess you have no guarantees there. If you have your heart set on a female then you might be disappointed with a male and there is something to be said for getting a puppy and watching them grow up as opposed to an adult dog. I'm sure you could love them all but if you want the whole experience, I would say either wait or find another breeder who already has a baby girl. But really, the ultimate decision is yours. I wish you luck and whatever you decide, can't wait to see photos of your baby!

[luckylady]

Oh dear, I am so sorry about your very sad and devastaing situation. I looked back at your threads and instantly remembered you in seeing the picture of all of the things you had already purchased for LeiLani. She was truely a part of your life even before she was born. I as so sorry for your loss.
As for your decision: If a yorkie girl is what you've always dreamed of owning, then wait and find her. She will come along. If the uncertainty of the possible pregnancy and IF a girl will be in the litter is to much for you, then I agree with leipshen's post

i realize that you have found a breeder whom you greatly respect and trust. It is understandable that you want to get your baby from someone with these all important qualities. I would, however, consider the possibility of asking your breeder (friend) if she might be willing to refer you to another breeder that she knows and also trusts. If she is a very reputable breeder chances are that she knows of other equally as trustworthy breeders. I am sure she feels great compassion, as well , great appreciation for your loyal patience.

I would bet that your breeder would be more than willing to help you in that way.
Owning a little girl was obviously your first choice, but little boys are just as cute and just as fun. There are plenty of cute clothes for boys too and the items you bought I assume can be exchanged.
From the title of your thread (What Do I Do? LeiLani Passed Monday, Do I get a 5 Yr old Girl or Baby Boy?), it seems maybe you've subconciously started to make your decision???? I just noticed there was no reference about waiting for another little girl.
Go to your breeder on Sunday; when you see the 5 year old girl and the boy puppy, your heart will guide you. You will just know if either of those two is the yorkie for you. I wish you strength and happiness in the decision you will make. Let us know how it turns out. I will be anxious to see your new family member whomever she (or he) will be.

[RMKC]

I am sorry you lost that little girl ! I have thought of another possibility, you know what they say about yorkies ...that you just cant have just one ??? What about maybe getting the little boy and then wait to see if momma has a girl and getting a little playmate for the little boy ???
When i was looking for another i wanted another girl, but so many times did i hear that sometimes 2 females fight for top dog, my Breeder talked me into a boy , and i have to say , i have never ever regreded it. Trust me my little girl is my everything,and the bond we have is unshakable but she has her own mind, def. female,but the male is my shadow, so sweet and i cant go anywhere without him, i cant even go the bathroom without him.... anyway just a thought you might consider !

[TLC]

Very tough.

I do love both girls and boys, I have 1 of each and I got them when they were 4 and 6 months old.

Honestly, I do not think I would get a puppy again. They sure are cute, but it was a lot of work, and to be honest, now that they are older (3.5 yrs.) this has been the BEST time.

They aren't 'puppy crazy' anymore, they listen VERY well, they are behaved and content.

I think you need to go and see for yourself how the 5 yr girl is, you may suprise yourself and fall instantly IN LOVE with her