My female has killed anouther yorkie

[Wylie's Mom]

Well, I was just about to close this thread for the *second* time today - and then Mike came along to add some calming advice to the thread.

Thanks, Mike, for such an informative and supportive post. I think this is probably the kind of advice the poster will read and follow - and the kind she was looking for.

[Yorkie Mom2]

To the OP---Bless your heart!!!I am so sorry for so many things. Not only have you had to suffer the losses of your babies, but then you have to suffer the slings and arrows of those to whom you have reached out for help, comfort, and advice. In the meantime you are still dealing with the aggression in your home.

To all the other posters: Let us all try to be more supportive and open-minded to others' differences.:

There is enough negativity in the world without us turning on each other.twocents:

[morningsting]

Originally Posted by Yorkie Mom2

To the OP---Bless your heart!!!I am so sorry for so many things. Not only have you had to suffer the losses of your babies, but then you have to suffer the slings and arrows of those to whom you have reached out for help, comfort, and advice. In the meantime you are still dealing with the aggression in your home.

To all the other posters: Let us all try to be more supportive and open-minded to others' differences.:

There is enough negativity in the world without us turning on each other.twocents:

I agree!

[Maxi]

Originally Posted by alaskayorkie

I'm just stumbling on this and honestly haven't had time to read all the posts. I hope you got some good advice. My :02.

First of all, thank you for having the courage to bring this topic up. It's something any one of us could be faced with. My Eddie, in fact, has attacked other dogs viciously before, and I've addressed it, but it could have been me making the same post your are.

My advice would be to consult a licensed behaviorist as soon as possible. They are terribly expensive, because they are doctors, but your case is definitely about abnormal behavior. Even if you separate the dog, it is likely to happen again. If money's an issue, I'll donate and help take up a collection to help you out. But I see that as your best option.

I suppose an excellent private trainer might help if the cost is prohibitive, and you might want to start there. But I think a good behaviorist is your best bet.

Good luck, and please keep in touch. If there have been hurtful responses here keeping you from posting again, PM me. I'm very interested.

I just saw this thread. Mike it is a great suggestion!

To OP I am so sorry for your loss. I cant even imagine how you feel I would definitely suggest what alaskayorkie suggested. Keep your dogs seperated all the time but meanwhile you really need to see behaviorist and trainers otherwise just by keeping them seperated it wont fix the aggression. I hope everything works out.

[YorkieRose]

Belamia...it is sad to say, but Yorkies really can kill one another..I had a breeder friend lose two adults to fights..then another bitch got in a pen of puppies and killed all 3..
Isabel Dare of Merrimac gave me a lovely Champion bitch who fought with several of her females, but was a angel for me..never so much as growled as long as I had her...go figure that one out???

Years ago I was reading an interview with Joanne Woodard and Paul Newman, they had just lost a Yorkie in a fight with another Yorkie pet of theirs...that was the first time I realized it myself.

I never had fighting males, just a few difficult girls..only had one female who fought with males.

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Belamia...it is sad to say, but Yorkies really can kill one another..I had a breeder friend lose two adults to fights..then another bitch got in a pen of puppies and killed all 3..
Isabel Dare of Merrimac gave me a lovely Champion bitch who fought with several of her females, but was a angel for me..never so much as growled as long as I had her...go figure that one out???

Years ago I was reading an interview with Joanne Woodard and Paul Newman, they had just lost a Yorkie in a fight with another Yorkie pet of theirs...that was the first time I realized it myself.

I never had fighting males, just a few difficult girls..only had one female who fought with males.

Even though I'm back it has nothing to do with the thread but the fact that Yorkie Rose is one of the very best breeders I have ever known and not only that but a wonderful person. Pat all of us that know you well here know anything you do in your breeding program would have the best interest of your dogs in mind.

[sweetr72]

Tricia first of I want to give you a big hug..I know this has been devistating for you hun..

Tricia is a VERY caring and loving person. She loves her dogs as much as any of us do and her dogs are her family..her children..she is a good friend to me and many others and she is not irresponsible. I know how completely and utterly sick she was when this happened to booboo and not knowing for sure how it happened. When I got the email about Kermie I could feel her pain and anguish..I am POSITIVE she will look into any reasons why this has happened and will keep Lollie away from the others from now on. I love ya Tricia and I am so sorry for your loss.

Dawn

[YorkyDiva]

Tricia, Bless you for wanting to keep your dogs together and with you! You have done nothing wrong. This is a sad situation and I really feel for you. You have lost some of your babies and you must be heart broken.

When I first started reading this and they were talking about one jumping on another and then the whole pack going for the kill, I really thought they were talking about the YT PACK going for the kill. How sad the way you have been bashed and just because a few words were read and people assumed this and assumed that. This same thing is being done all too often on YT and the net.
I hope you can work this out for you and your Yorkie.

[red98vett]

I think the very first post she did, made it sound very bad....even though now she is saying she really doesn't know what happened - if you re-read the 1st post you can see why people were upset. ANYONE can have a tragedy - but a 2nd is not good and a 3rd is worse.....

I really don't know what's going on ....but just to clarify - it 'sounded' like her female had killed 3 yorkies in a short period of time - I think why people posted the way they did.

[myyorkies8]

I would like to thank all the kind people who know me and how much i love my babies....i am taking every precaution now to asure the safty of my fur family....lollie is seperate..but not alone...she has her daughter and her babies and still plays with all the doggies just not un supervised. like i had said i'm not sure it was her..but i'm assuming it was and don't want it to happen ever again. i am home 24/7 and have been for years...so they get my full attention....and always will. they were potting and i answered the door...like anyone else would have.thank you dawn...luv ya too!!! i would like to thank the person who offered to help me financially for a trainer...but money is not an issue here...have lots of it and my doggies and family gets only the best...but thanks for offering.

[jen0225]

To the original poster: I am sorry - I had not gotten to the page with your response when I posted yesterday (I was at work and kept getting interrupted...). I am sure it is hard to read a lot of what was written. Your first post made it sound like you knew Lollie killed some of your other babies. Several of us jumped to conclusions, several of us probably got caught up in the debate of opinions going back and forth and lost site of the real issue...the fact that you lost a baby. I know, for a fact, that I got side tracked by the part of the post debating the double standard for putting down large dogs versus small ones. Had I waited to post until I had a chance to read everything I would have seen that with your first post you had actually jumped to the same (probably) wrong conclusion many here did. It sounds to me like in your sorrow you may have falsely accused Lollie of 2 unrelated tragic occurrences. The fact that you have chosen to keep her away from your others, just in case, for everyones safety shows that you love each and everyone. Several people will still say that you should re-home but if you are able to spend alone time with her each day she is probably going to be just as happy, if not more so, because she doesn't have to share you with any of the others when you 2 are together. I hope that after the dust settles and everyone calms down, you are able to forgive people of some of the hurtful things that were said. I wish you and the rest of your little ones the best and hope that Lollie enjoys her retirement.

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I think the very first post she did, made it sound very bad....even though now she is saying she really doesn't know what happened - if you re-read the 1st post you can see why people were upset. ANYONE can have a tragedy - but a 2nd is not good and a 3rd is worse.....

I really don't know what's going on ....but just to clarify - it 'sounded' like her female had killed 3 yorkies in a short period of time - I think why people posted the way they did.

I'm sure no one meant any harm, and I know there are some very compassionate Yorkie Lovers here, but sometimes I wish they would be so compassionate towards other (HUMAN) Yorkie Lovers.
It seems sometimes they think "Oh lets save the Yorkie but the heck with the feelings of the human!" There has to be a happy medium.

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by alaskayorkie

I'm just stumbling on this and honestly haven't had time to read all the posts. I hope you got some good advice. My :02.

First of all, thank you for having the courage to bring this topic up. It's something any one of us could be faced with. My Eddie, in fact, has attacked other dogs viciously before, and I've addressed it, but it could have been me making the same post your are.

My advice would be to consult a licensed behaviorist as soon as possible. They are terribly expensive, because they are doctors, but your case is definitely about abnormal behavior. Even if you separate the dog, it is likely to happen again. If money's an issue, I'll donate and help take up a collection to help you out. But I see that as your best option.

I suppose an excellent private trainer might help if the cost is prohibitive, and you might want to start there. But I think a good behaviorist is your best bet.

Good luck, and please keep in touch. If there have been hurtful responses here keeping you from posting again, PM me. I'm very interested.

Mike that is so very sweet of you. Your a Wonderful man. Your Wife is so lucky to have you!. I to think that she can be helped and with Love and help of a behaviorist she can get along. I will also help out with what I can.

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by myyorkies8

I would like to thank all the kind people who know me and how much i love my babies....i am taking every precaution now to asure the safty of my fur family....lollie is seperate..but not alone...she has her daughter and her babies and still plays with all the doggies just not un supervised. like i had said i'm not sure it was her..but i'm assuming it was and don't want it to happen ever again. i am home 24/7 and have been for years...so they get my full attention....and always will. they were potting and i answered the door...like anyone else would have.thank you dawn...luv ya too!!! i would like to thank the person who offered to help me financially for a trainer...but money is not an issue here...have lots of it and my doggies and family gets only the best...but thanks for offering.

((((HUGS)))) Hun I will be here to support you period. I know you love all your dogs and will do everything you can to help them get along.

[For My Coby]

I was the first person to post a reply on this thread and have now read the whole thing. Was it obvious to anyone but me that there was not enough information in that first post to have the whole story? So many times a thread is started in the heat - or hurt - of emotion. The post isn't well planned and thought out to include every important detail. I knew that enough information wasn't offered and I have only a little experience with aggressive dogs (I lost a dog to a pack of wild dogs once), so I knew that I wasn't qualified to answer - only pave the way for "experts".

The threads that are the best are the ones where posters (hopefully the "experts") #2, 3, 4, and 5 come on and instead of answering the thread ask for more clarifying information in order to put together the whole story.

This thread was not a loss tho. We have all gathered a lot more information regarding aggression and the ways that we all either have or choose to deal with it and the options available. And the OP came back to clarify a lot of things so that her complete story was shared.

My heart goes out to you.