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07-19-2005, 03:09 AM | #1 |
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| America' Pet Registry, INC. ??? What is the America's Pet Registry, Inc? |
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07-19-2005, 03:38 AM | #2 |
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| registry It is a generic registry that requires no DNA for the stud, no recording keeping for the breeder or kennel inspections...many breeders use it if they do not have AKC parents or have none purebeds they want to register. |
07-19-2005, 10:52 AM | #3 |
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| Skippy is registered with them, so does that mean he's not an AKC dog? |
07-19-2005, 11:27 AM | #4 |
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| If you bought him as a baby and didn't fill out paperwork for AKC and send it in then yes he is not AKC. If you bought him older or as an adult and he didn't come with any paper except the APRI then he is probably not AKC. There are a lot of dogs out there that are double, triple and more registered. I have not looked into it but I have heard that if you can prove your pups linage you can get them registered at AKC. I do not think that gives you breeding rights tho. Hope I didn't confuse you more. Sylvia |
07-19-2005, 11:29 AM | #5 |
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| Fred is APRI registered. I don't think it should matter much if you want the doggy as a pet. I didn't care much for Fred's registration. Just as long as I proved beforehand he was actually purebred. |
07-19-2005, 11:33 AM | #6 |
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| Sylvia sorry to say that is not true...AKC will not take another United States pet registry even if you do prove lineage. If A pup is not born to AKC Sire/dam it can not be registered with AKC...there are only out of country exceptions.
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07-19-2005, 11:37 AM | #7 |
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| Sorry, my post was incomplete. I was assuming her baby came from AKC parents and just wasn't registered with AKC. Sylvia |
07-19-2005, 12:03 PM | #8 | |
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07-19-2005, 12:23 PM | #9 |
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| that is such an exception aknowledging certain speciality clubs not the rule!! besides they are very breed specific, not yorkshire terrier!
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07-19-2005, 12:33 PM | #10 |
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| I know as a general rule they don't. |
07-19-2005, 08:25 PM | #11 | |
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You CAN get what is called an ILP with AKC. It stands for Indefinite Listing Privilege. What it means is this: If you believe your dog to be purebred, but it's parents weren't AKC registered, there is an application you fill out requesting ILP. With ILP, you can't show in AKC conformation, but you can show in other AKC classes such as agility, obedience, etc... The application is available on the AKC website and is under the ILP heading. It requires you to answer several basic questions, including why you believe your dog is purebred. It also requires that you send two pictures: one of the head, and one full side shot. There is a small fee with this application. When my toy poodle is old enough, I'll be applying for ILP so I can do some AKC shows with him. According to the AKC website, if the puppy's parents are not AKC registered, you cannot gain AKC registration, only ILP. Hope this helps! | |
07-19-2005, 09:06 PM | #12 |
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| The breeder of my parti-colored puppy registered my puppy APRI because of the inaccurate record keeping by AKC over the years. In the past, while AKC would register a parti-color pup if it came from AKC parents, it would register them as black and tan, the breed standard color only, even though they were not black and tan. Because of this there was no way to follow the lieage and know which dogs had the parti-color gene and the lineage records were not accurate. APRI registers a dog under it's true colors and their records are therefore historically correct. I may be wrong but I think AKC now records the actual color. |
07-20-2005, 04:00 AM | #13 |
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| Please take note that some of the registries listed below have similar or the very same initials as the older and well established registries. This can cause confusion for consumers. Don't be mislead! These are but a few of the "alternative" registries out there: ACA - "American Canine Association". Advertises that over 3000 adult breeding canines are registered each week. Only registry endorsed by Petland. **Caters to commercial breeders.** Refers puppy seekers to pet stores. APR - "American Purebred Registry". Will register unknown pedigree dogs/cats, does not sponsor any shows, no proof of purebred required. APRI - "America's Pet Registry, inc. Advertises free registration for commercial breeders. Non Profit "dedicated to the preservation of the professional pet industry", dogs and cats. Founded by retailers of pets (commercial breeders and resellers). You have no recourse as a buyer of a puppy bought thru them if the seller does not want you to know their phone number, etc. ARU- "Animal Registry Unlimited. Guarantees they will register your pets of unknown pedigree, encourages cross breeding. Special prices for bulk. CKC - "Continental Kennel Club" ( do not confuse with Canadian Kennel Club! ) CKC will recognize a cross between any two purebred dogs, and will issue a registration certificate on their offspring. These crosses are not registered as purebred dogs but are registered as the offspring of purebred dogs. CKC accepts no responsibility for any inaccurate, false, or fraudulent information submitted on registration applications. They sponsor no shows or championships. They also give big fee breaks to large kennels registering lots of dogs ( such as "commercial breeding farms" - also known as "Puppy Mills" ). Will register dogs not registered with other recognized registries. "If other kennel club papers are not available, the dog owner must provide two witnesses who can verify the accuracy and truthfulness of the information listed on the application". [quote source] Maybe this will help.As you can plainly see these registries cater to the commercial breeder. |
07-20-2005, 08:59 AM | #14 |
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| Thanks for posting the clear definitions. |
07-20-2005, 09:13 AM | #15 |
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| AKC parti-color reg records AKC DOES INDEED REGISTER PARTI COLORS! And, they are listed as black and tan-that part is true. BUT+++ where the section is for markings, it VERY CLEARLY says Parti..So they do have accurate records indicating the dog is a parti. Parti has a definition in AKC standards that denote the markings, not the colors. Parti has a base coat of white with another definite color evident. By definition in the AKC registry parti is not a color but indicate the dog's markings. I sent 4 pics of Remi along with his reg. application. In about 5 weeks I had his reg back and he was listed as black and tan color AND parti as his markings. The statemet that AKC does not keep accurate records of parti colors is at best, a half-truth..That breeder might have had a misunderstanding as to the interpretation of the AKC registration.. I would give them the benefit of the doubt.. How many of our standard color puppies are registered as black and tan but as adults they are blue and gold? With Yorkie puppies you cannot determine the adult color. With partis at least you can see the white with the other colors. |
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