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Old 02-03-2008, 01:30 PM   #1
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Ok I know what these all stand for. If I am not going to show my dog do these really matter. Cant just about anyone get these registrations? Do some hold strict guidelines about breeders?
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Well, personally I would only spend money on an AKC registered dog. IMO, I think alot of the other registries were started for dogs that aren't able to be registered with AKC.
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AKC is alot more strict however I think that keeps the others out when they don't want to conform to rules. Its easier to get the other regs. So guess it depends and if you aren't going to show and just having a pet, it might not matter to you. I prefer AKC but I also have APR. All my others will only be AKC from here on out.
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UKC is the oldest dog registry but AKC is the largest and no, just anyone can't register just any dog. A few of mine are dual registered UKC and AKC because i show UKC right now since I am just learning how to do it but hope to cross over to AKC. These shows are to evaluate your breeding dogs. i don't think the other registeries you mentioned have anything like that.
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AKC, UKC, and CKC(Canadian) are the most strict with the rules and the most legit of the registries. Most mills and byb'rs use the others as they have either gotten suspended from AKC,UKC or CKC(Canadian) or dont want to deal with the stricter regulations.
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Ok I know what these all stand for. If I am not going to show my dog do these really matter. Cant just about anyone get these registrations? Do some hold strict guidelines about breeders?
AKC - Was established in 1884 do know that AKC does have criteria and guidelines for breeders to follow. Breeders are subject to inspection.

UKC - Was established in 1898 for Performance Dogs....Not familiar with UKC criteria.

The only thing that you should be concerned about is that your pup is healthy, good representation of the and comes from a breeder that will stand behind their dogs.
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I used to think having an AKC registered dog meant something special, but not anymore. True, AKC is "stricter" in that they are closed registry but I think this can act as both a pro and a con.

Pro, in that a dog's pedigree is often more traceable and verifiable, Con in that anyone can register any purebred dog with AKC whose parents are AKC reg. whether that dog conforms to breed standard and/or is free of congenital defects or not; however they CANNOT register a dog with AKC unless BOTH parents are AKC registered even if it can be proven that the dog is a purebred, perfectly healthy and conforms perfectly to the breed standard.

For this reason, there are many AKC registered breeders (and yes, including many puppy-millers) who feel that they can overcharge unscrupulous buyers for their puppies simply because of their AKC registration status, since many uninformed people think that AKC registration automatically "guarantees" that the puppy will conform to breed standard and/or that it somehow verifies that the breeder is reputable.

While many byb's and puppy-millers do use other registries because they may have been booted from the AKC, that doesn't automatically mean that the reverse is true (I have seen more dogs in pet stores registered with AKC than any other registry btw). A dog's AKC registration papers may have simply been lost, or they were just never registered, or they came with limited AKC registration. And yes, there are also a lot of people who have volunarily left the AKC in favor of another registry because they don't like how the AKC operates.

Here's a couple of interesting articles which express criticisms of the AKC:

http://www.daphneszoo.com/id16.html
http://network.bestfriends.org/puppy...ews/11808.html

I personally don't favor any one registry over the other, and ultimately think that the quality of puppy you're getting rests soley on the honestly and integrity of that particular breeder, and has little to do with what registry they are with.

There are many AKC loyalists who will argue with anyone till they are blue in the face that any dog who is not AKC registered is automatically inferior/not purebred/came from a puppy mill/etc.. no ifs ands or buts, ... thankfully however, I know better than that based on both my own personal experiences and observation.

And since I have no interest in ever showing dogs with the AKC or at all for that matter (a couple of the other registries do sponsor their own dog shows however), I'm not going to be swindled into paying double, triple or even quadruple for a dog if the price in question is soley based on the fact that it is AKC registered.

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i stand corrected on the dates. I just pulled this from the UKC website

Established in 1898, the United Kennel Club is the largest all-breed performance-dog registry in the world, registering dogs from all 50 states and 25 foreign countries. More than 60 percent of its 13,000 annually licensed events are tests of hunting ability, training and instinct. UKC prides itself on its family-oriented, friendly, educational events. The UKC has supported the "Total Dog" philosophy through its events and programs for over a century. As a departure from registries that place emphasis on a dog’s looks, UKC events are designed for dogs that look and perform equally well.

Our mission is to be the world's best registry of purebred dogs, to offer our customers the most efficient and creative services possible, to use our data to help our customers breed the best dogs in the world and to create a wide spectrum of performance and conformation events in which those dogs can prove their instincts and heritage.

The programs at UKC include Obedience Trials, Agility Trials, Weight Pull Events, Terrier Races, Earth Work Events, Total Junior Program, Dog Sports (including Family Obedience), Coonhound Field Trials, Water Races, Nite Hunts and Bench Shows, Hunt Tests for retrieving breeds, Pointing Dog Events, Beagle Events (including Hunts and Bench Shows, and Cur and Feist Squirrel and Coon Events and Bench Shows.

Rounding out the 'Total Dog' package, UKC Conformation Events are among our largest growing events. UKC dog shows are family events designed by and for the breeder-owner-handler. Professional Handlers are not eligible to exhibit dogs for others at UKC Conformation Events. At UKC dog shows, the emphasis is on the DOG, not the SHOW.

Part of our mission is to have events where all dogs can compete. In addition to our purebred dog registry, United Kennel Club offers a Limited Privilege program. The Limited Privilege is open to all dogs that are spayed/neutered. This includes mixed breed dogs, purebred dogs of unknown pedigree, and purebred dogs with disqualifying faults as described in the UKC breed standards. The programs open to Limited Privilege dogs are Obedience Trials, Weight Pulls, Agility Trials, Total Junior Program and Dog Sports (including Family Obedience).

It is our firm belief that the right balance between performance and conformation results in healthier happier dogs for everyone. We are proud that we share that same philosophy with our growing number of dedicated participants.

Essentially, the UKC world of dogs is a working world. That's the way it was developed over a century ago, and that's the way it remains today.
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Personally, I will only buy AKC registered dogs from now on (unless I buy a dog registered in another country). Of course, I have a lot more requirements than only AKC registered though... I might possibly consider a UKC registered dog...but it would really depend on my experience with the breeder.
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I have noticed that almost all the dogs in pet stores are now APRI or ACr "registered". The millers dont want to be investigated!!!!! They charge MUCH more for their "registered" puppies than most AKC breeders do. But, it definately does depend on how ethical the breeder is no matter what the registry is. The only people that are getting swindled are the uneducated public that are buying on impulse.
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Sorry, phone rang. And the ones that dont do the research and study the breed often are the ones that buy from the bad breeders.
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Personally, I will only buy AKC registered dogs from now on (unless I buy a dog registered in another country). Of course, I have a lot more requirements than only AKC registered though... I might possibly consider a UKC registered dog...but it would really depend on my experience with the breeder.
I only AKC Register....but, this doesn't always mean the best...you're right doing investigation and knowing your breeder is your best bet.
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Eh, I've seen AKC registered dogs that didn't look all that "Yorkie" to me. Generally it's the best registry but it isn't the end all and be all. The one we have now is CKC and he's an awesome dog...albeit what people may call "pet quality".
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I don't know why so many people on here are saying to only buy AKC if all you are looking for is a pet. I've seen plenty of AKC dogs that don't fit the standard.

If all you want is a cute pet then find a breeder you like and be sure to ask to see both parents so you have an idea of what the dog will look like. Also they should be healthy and the breeder should stand behind that with a guarantee (at least a year). Usually AKC and UKC are more likely to be reputable, but that sure doesn't guarantee they are and it also doesn't mean they aren't reputable if they come from other registry.
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