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Old 06-20-2005, 05:54 PM   #1
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Sad Please help potty training 11 mo. old, am desperate!

I have inherited my 23 yr old son and his fiancees Yorkie who is now 10 months old. She has lived in their chaotic house (both full time students), had very little training. They love her but are selfish and should never have gotten a dog, let alone such an expensive one. (Stupid kids, they got her from a pet store and paid a ridiculous amount that they dont have) The dog spent her first 7 weeks at my house as my son was home for Xmas break so needless to say we fell in love with her. Now they have another apartment and cant have her there, so we have her. She is precious and I want to keep her, but she is peeing all over my house. She can only go about 6 hours a night before she goes and we take her out probably every 2/3 hrs during the day (between my dh and dd one of us is usually home, I work full time). We have a crate but she has never used it and barks uncontrollably if we put her in it. I need my sleep to work, so cannot stand listening to her howl all night...and even if I could, my dh, dd, and ds would not put up with it. Is is too late to help this sweet little girl (she is neutered)? I just knew this would happen living with them and now noone else is going to want her if she is not trained. Please help me with any advice you can give!
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Don't give up on that little girl, there's always hope. You said she can't hold it longer than 6 hrs during the night...Try buying some puppy pads for her to use at night. We live in a 3rd floor apartment, so we can't take our yorkie up and down the stairs all the time (especially at night) , so we trained him to potty on the pee pads. He goes #1 and #2 on them.
Are there certain places in the house where she likes to pee almost everytime? If so, try putting a potty pad down there. That way, when she pees there, you can positively reinforce it by giving her praise and maybe a treat.
I know it sounds tedious, but when you're first trying to potty train a dog you have to be very persistent and very conscientious about where the dog is at all times so that if she has an accident, you can immediately (if you wait a minute or more, she won't know what you're doing) take her where you want her to do her business, whether it be outside or on a pee pad.
Don't rub her nose in her business or anything like that...DO give a treat or give praise when she goes potty in the right place. It takes time for them to learn, but they will learn.
Everytime our yorkie does his business on his pad, we throw a big party for him and he gets all excited. He loves it, and he knows that good things happen if he goes on the pee pad. This helped ALOT when training him.
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Keep her!! I really doesn't sound like your son & fiancees have time to take care of her. You might think about crating her when you are at work so she doesn't pee in your house while you are gone.
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I have inherited my 23 yr old son and his fiancees Yorkie who is now 10 months old. She has lived in their chaotic house (both full time students), had very little training. They love her but are selfish and should never have gotten a dog, let alone such an expensive one. (Stupid kids, they got her from a pet store and paid a ridiculous amount that they dont have) The dog spent her first 7 weeks at my house as my son was home for Xmas break so needless to say we fell in love with her. Now they have another apartment and cant have her there, so we have her. She is precious and I want to keep her, but she is peeing all over my house. She can only go about 6 hours a night before she goes and we take her out probably every 2/3 hrs during the day (between my dh and dd one of us is usually home, I work full time). We have a crate but she has never used it and barks uncontrollably if we put her in it. I need my sleep to work, so cannot stand listening to her howl all night...and even if I could, my dh, dd, and ds would not put up with it. Is is too late to help this sweet little girl (she is neutered)? I just knew this would happen living with them and now noone else is going to want her if she is not trained. Please help me with any advice you can give!
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Hi Laura,
I am experiencing the same problem. I just purchased a 7 mo from a breeder in CA and he told me she was paper trained. I purposely wanted an older dog for that reason because I bring her to work with me and my boss wouldn't like her going on the carpet and now I am having trouble with my boss allowing me to keep her here. I am having a HORRIBLE time attempting to paper train her at this age and I don't know what to do. Like yours.....she is a sweetheart and I love her to death. Maybe someone will contact us with a suggestion. Good luck to you. Carol
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Puppy pads dont work too good for Scamp we have all hardwood floors,with scatter rugs,here & there,,,,i got puppy pads,he would use them but would also go on the scatter rugs too prob thinking they are pee pads too,,,so he is confused,so i lifted all the rugs up thinking that will do the trick hes & i am too,now he just goes on the floor................

I take him out first thing in the morning,soon as they get up..

I thought Scamp would learn from his sister Minnie,doing her duty soon as she goes outside.......but its still a nightmare...........i need help too
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:31 AM   #6
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I forgot to mention Yorkies are very hard to train...

My sisters 2 little Yorkies still you know what in the house & they are now 10 yrs old,,,,,,,,,actually my sister & her husband have major rows over them
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I would go back to basics. Take them out every hour and if you can't keep and eye on them all the time get and x-pen (doggie playpen). I also have a baby playpen set up that I can just drop her in when I am too busy to watch her. Just remember be very consistant and patient. These dogs live to please. Also the kennel helps you learn how long they really can hold it. I wouldn't leave them in more than 3 or 4 hours but mine sleeps in hers at night. I realize they are older but they will hush after awhile. Try using a spray bottle to get them to quite down. I hope this helps. Good Luck. And congrats on your new babies.
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I would definately keep the baby! It will be hard work for a few weeks, but I am sure you can turn her around....
As far as the pee pad vs. area rug dilemma, don't worry.....the pee pads are scented to attract the dog.

What I would do is confine her to a small part of the house....maybe with her crate on one side of the room and a pee pad on the other. Then, you will have to constantly monitor her when she is out of the crate. As soon as she starts sniffing.....put her on the pad and keep putting her there until she pees on it....then lots and lots of praise....then repeat, repeat, repeat....I know it will seem like forever, but eventually she will make it to the pad 99% of the time. Once she is consistant you can start giving her more access to the house and you may have to again monitor her and put her on the pee pads.....it has been 10 months, but Tini is finally to the point where I can trust her in teh house not to pee on the rugs....

Good luck and hang in there....it will seem like forever, but it really won't be and then you will have a cute baby who will love you lots!
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:40 PM   #9
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I forgot to mention, I do have a kitchen that I can gate her in. I have been leaving her crate and bed in there and she and are other two are gated in there whenever we are gone or too busy to watch.is this okay or should I get a playpen? And do you buy a real baby playpen or do they have special dog playpens? (probably a dumb question) she sleeps with me at night and does okay for about 6 hrs like I said. It seems to be during the day when we let her wander free (if we are home only) that she has accidents...even if we take her out every two hours. Should i restrict her to the kitchen most of the time and just put up with the howling till she makes progress? Why are Yorkies so hard to train, by the way, they seem so intelligent? Thanks again for all your advice.
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Well, my girl is now nearly 9 months old. I adopted her at 6 months old. She is still not house trained and my thinking is that this is going to be a VERY long term project (and I have plenty of experience with this issue as I foster shelter dogs). My strategy right now is that I take her out, she pees and gets rewarded with treats and praise, she gets 20 minutes free time in the house WATCHED constantly (and maybe 1 out of 10 times she doesn't make it the 20 minutes though I'm able to interrupt as she starts to squat - out again when this happens), then on a short leash with me or back in the crate. I've been doing this for nearly a month and it's exhausting and I'm beginning to think this will be our lives together. Frustrating for both of us.

I posted before about poop eating (coprophasia) and I someone pointing me to an article that taught a good recall to call the dog away from the poop. This had to be started on leash, of course. This worked VERY well but *I* have been failing on this lately. We graduated to off leash pooping and she would run to me for her treat after pooping. (And don't pick the poop up in front of them - this just makes it all the more valuable to them - at least it did to my girl). But then I started getting distracted doing stuff in my yard and it's no surprise that she's pooping and scarfing it again.

The message I'm getting with these pupsters is that you have to be 100% consistent for a LONG, LONG time. I'm venting here a bit but I must say I'm getting worn down by it all. I've never experienced this with any other dog and as I said I foster shelter dogs - almost none of whom are house trained. When I read on the internet stuff like "yorkies may never be fully house trained" I get discouraged.

Well, time for another potty outing .....
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Every time Tucker goes on the pad he gets so excited. He has even sought out his pad on his own a few times. But, he is just as likely to pee where ever he is standing. Drives me nuts! I think yorkies are hard to train because they are so darn adorable that we tend to over look it. If it absolutely made me nuts and I worked exclusevly with him on it he'd probably learn faster.
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