YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community


Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us.

Go Back   YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community > YorkieTalk > General Training Questions
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar JavaChat Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-22-2007, 01:38 AM   #1
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 133
Blog Entries: 1
Angry Why must she be so friggin' stubborn!

I am seriously at my wits end with Zoey! I don't know what to do!

Zoey is almost 2 years old and still NOT pottytrained! She just refuses to do the right thing. She wants to do what she wants to do. I've tried everything and nothing is working for me.

I've tried to crate train her. No results. I've tried taking her outside. No results. When she goes outside, she doesn't do anything but sit down. As soon as we step in the door, she goes straight to my carpet and squats! I am absolutely fed up! I have ever tried putting pee-pee pads all over the livingroom where I know she likes to "do her business" and she walks right over them and resorts to a fresh new spot on the carpet.

Guys, what should I do? Is there any type of schedule that she should be on? I really want to cry. If I can't get her trained, I have no choice but to get rid of her. I can't continue to put up with this.
__________________
Zoey's mommy
I'm officially addicted to Yorkies!
symplistik is offline   Reply With Quote
Welcome Guest!
Not Registered?

Join today and remove this ad!

Old 08-22-2007, 02:00 AM   #2
Banning Thread Dictator
Donating Member
 
alaskayorkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 30,843
Blog Entries: 57
Default

You poor thing. I feel your exasperation. We had a chi who was never fully housetrained in six years of life. The good news is, you can start over and succeed. People do it all the time.

Tell us more about what you've tried. How do you feed? Do you leave the food out? Do you feed once, twice a day? What's your family's reaction when she goes in the house? Do you scold? What's the reaction when she goes outside? Do you praise?

Here's what I recommend:
* Put her on a feeding schedule. Twice a day.
* Thirty minutes after feeding, take her for a long walk. If she goes, praise, praise, praise and give her the best treats you have. (You don't have to do the walk all the time, but in the beginning you want to maximize your chances for success.)
*If she goes in the house and you don't catch her, ignore it.
* If she goes in the house and you catch her, give her a calm but firm "no" and carry her outside to an area you want her to go.
* Be patient.

Others will probably recommend that you go back to crate training. I don't have any experience with that but agree it's a good idea.
__________________
Mike ~ Doting Dad to Jillie, Harper, Molly, Cooper, Eddie (RIP), Lucy (RIP), Rusty (RIP) and Jack (RIP). Check us out on YouTube
alaskayorkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2007, 03:21 AM   #3
Yorkie Kisses are the Best!
Donating Member
 
red98vett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 33,590
Blog Entries: 1
Default

I had good luck with Bill Jack bite size treats and PUppy Marrow bones (by milkbone, OR try a tiny bit of liverworsrt on your finger - they reallty like that
red98vett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2007, 04:29 AM   #4
Donating YT 500 Club Member
 
tinav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,453
Default

Hi I too can feel your frustration....but let me assure you that one day she will seem to just go in the right place....really!! that true

But in the meantime I must mention this and it may be something that you have thought of already. One thing these little peanuts do is lead by their noses....what I mean by that is if there is a hint of a smell of weewee or poop any where that she has gone in the past...you guessed it she WILL go there again. They don't understand that you cleaned it up and that they are NOT supposed to go there again...they just sniff and go. So first I must impress upon you that no matter what cleaners you are using (I use ammonia and of course the puppy cleaner stuff) if you are NOT using enough of the solution to clean doggie weewee and poop they WILL smell it and THINK that is the place to go.

I have no knowledge of crate training although it is a VERY good way to train.

One other thing is....what ever method you decide to use.....stick with it and you will succeed. Consistency and patience are key...and also good treats .

Don't get discouraged and remember the doggies are the right ones it's us that need to understand.

I hope I helped....if you would like you can PM me if you think I can answer any questions for you. I am sure others will say a few things that you can relate to and will help.

Tina
tinav is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2007, 04:52 AM   #5
Piper & Sebastian
Donating Member
 
Yorkiekids's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: florida
Posts: 14,495
Default

Do you have a yard you take her into? If so I know this is a pain, but stay out their as long as it takes her to go. If she won't the minute she comes in and runs for the carpet snatch her up, and put her back outside. If she goes praise her like crazy. Also pick up what she does with paper towels, and put it in your yard so she can smell it. I'm sorry you're having so much trouble. I can imagine your frustration.
__________________
Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki
Yorkiekids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2007, 08:56 AM   #6
Aubrey's Mom
Donating Member
 
Superstarkba's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 9,369
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alaskayorkie View Post
You poor thing. I feel your exasperation. We had a chi who was never fully housetrained in six years of life. The good news is, you can start over and succeed. People do it all the time.

Tell us more about what you've tried. How do you feed? Do you leave the food out? Do you feed once, twice a day? What's your family's reaction when she goes in the house? Do you scold? What's the reaction when she goes outside? Do you praise?

Here's what I recommend:
* Put her on a feeding schedule. Twice a day.
* Thirty minutes after feeding, take her for a long walk. If she goes, praise, praise, praise and give her the best treats you have. (You don't have to do the walk all the time, but in the beginning you want to maximize your chances for success.)
*If she goes in the house and you don't catch her, ignore it.
* If she goes in the house and you catch her, give her a calm but firm "no" and carry her outside to an area you want her to go.
* Be patient.

Others will probably recommend that you go back to crate training. I don't have any experience with that but agree it's a good idea.

I agree with you. I crated trained Aubrey, and I am "bed" training Dakota, she sleeps in my bed. The only time she goes to her crate is when shes home alone.
Superstarkba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2007, 08:57 AM   #7
Aubrey's Mom
Donating Member
 
Superstarkba's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 9,369
Default

They thing that helped me to train Aubrey was I got a 30 foot leash to go outside, and I just put him on that, and he does his business and plays. He loves it, and I don't have to be out there with him. ANd it was only 15 dollars, I think.
Superstarkba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 05:22 PM   #8
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
paddys mom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: evanston, IL
Posts: 206
Default

I know you're frustrated but please don't think of giving up your baby over this. I was similarly frustrated with mine pooping in his crate but then I found out I was leaving him in too long and feeding him too late at night. (well..my fiance was feeding him too late lol) So I fixed that and suddenly he got it with the poop too.

Unfortunately you probably need to start over. When you crate trained her did you take her out FIRST thing in the morning when she definitely had to go and wait until she went? No matter what you do you HAVE to wait as long as it takes them to go, or else they don't get why they were even outside. And if they do happen to go inside when you can see, like someone else said you must pick them up and say a firm "NO" and take them outside. Also you should use "eliminate" or natures miracle stain remover to get rid of the pee smell. They love to go where they have gone before. And when she does do it right PRAISE. I still praise mine all the time just to keep it enforced as the right thing to do. I think crate training works really well, but if you don't want to go back to that, at least keep him confined or like on your lap where he won't be able to make a mistake unsupervised. Those mistakes aren't good for training b/c you can't step in and make a correction. Even though mistakes that you catch are annoying they are actually really good for the training process b/c when you correct them it really helps them make the connection to what you want. Its all about being clear with what you want them to do.


Mine's 14mo old now and though i won't say he never messes up, it is extremely rare now, and usually when he does its my fault because I missed the signs that he needed to go out. It probably also helps that i don't and never will have carpet.lol.

Good luck, hope my rambling is some help.
paddys mom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 05:30 PM   #9
Kodi & Pixie 2
Donating Member
 
daisy mae06's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NEBRASKA
Posts: 14,766
Default

hey maybe move te carpet outside then she'll be going outside sorry just had to say it....

mine are older than yours and still have some problems.
__________________
OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org
LorisCritterSitter.com
daisy mae06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 05:40 PM   #10
Donating YT 10K Club Member
 
MyFairLacy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 11,003
Default

I know someone on another pet forum that was having this problem with her little dog. Her dog always pottied on the carpet. Your carpet probably smells like pee and poop now and she thinks that is the place to go. She's basically trained right now to go on the carpet. The person said they ripped out all the carpet in their house and put down wood floors (you could also do tile). The peeing in the house stopped immediately because the dog didn't want to go on the wood floors - it was trained to carpet in its mind. I've also heard that a lot of dogs think carpet feels like grass. I think as long as you have carpet in your house, your dog is going to go there because she thinks that is where she is supposed to go. I would get rid of the carpet and replace it with all wood, laminate or tile or some sort of hard surface.
__________________
~Magnifique Yorkies~
Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs.
Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.
MyFairLacy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 05:50 PM   #11
I Love My Lil' Punkin's
Donating Member
 
stedmansmommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Stedman and Tatum's World :)
Posts: 15,331
Blog Entries: 5
Default

Oh my I can definitely feel the frustration in your post and I do not blame you one bit. I can only imagine how crazy this must be making you.

I think everyone so far has had some great advice for you, so I will just say - GOOD LUCK!
__________________
Mommy Loves Stedman and Tatum!

They have us wrapped around their little paws!
stedmansmommy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 05:56 PM   #12
Donating YT 1000 Club Member
 
altigger74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,523
Default

I use baby diapers on Cody when he goes on the floor, he hates them! So we have very few problems with him.

Another suggestion (I just thought of it ) whether you have a yard or not put her on a leash that way when she goes into the house she's still attached to you and you can grab her up if she starts to go on the floor.
__________________
Mommy of Cody,Gracie,Bella,2labs,1cat, 2 skinkids
one Angel Baby Boy 8/8/09 I carried you under my heart for 20 weeks and will carry you in my heart forever
altigger74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 06:02 PM   #13
YT Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 326
Default

I've come to the conclusion boy yorkies > girl yorkies.... only because girls are so stubborn!! I still love my missy though.... She's is too a stubborn one, but thank God she is potty trained, and amazing how she picked up fast.


I hope your girl succeeds soon.... I know it must be so hard on you.
Tina_Luvs_Missy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 06:03 PM   #14
Donating YT 3000 Club Member
 
For My Coby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,139
Default

Great advice and great encouragement already above. So I'll just elaborate on the carpet cleaning. We have an elderly cat that developed the habit of going on the carpet. I can tell you if you think you're cleaning it by just spraying a little of nature's miracle or similar solution on there and blotting it up, you're very wrong. You have to reeeaaallly read the directions and get serious about cleaning the carpet unless you want to get new. You have to literally DOUSE the carpets with the stuff and then cover it with wet towels to give the little enzymes the time to eat all the waste. Oxygen simply kills the enzymes before it's done. So we had to do that in one area (thank goodness!) of our carpet for several days before we got it all. Still, to this day, the animals "pause" there, so I'm still not sure we got it all. You say that she goes on a new spot, so either she really has gone there before and you don't know it, or she really has trained herself to go on carpet.

And, in your end-of-the-rope frustration, I also agree with just going the "panty" route. I had a female that had submissive urination that we had to do that with.

Good Luck!!
__________________
Diane, and my boys ..... Coby and Reggie !!
Striving to be a YTPP - a YT Positive Poster!
In Memory of My Beautiful Mother 7/22/28-8/27/08
For My Coby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2007, 06:53 PM   #15
Donating Member
 
omega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: MN
Posts: 7,575
Default

With crate training, if they don't go when you take them out of the crate and take them outside, bring them back in and put them BACK in the crate. They don't get to come out and play till they potty. Believe me, they DO learn rather quickly. Hang in there, I know the frustration....
omega is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




Google
 

SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167