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07-29-2007, 05:43 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Omaha, NE
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| Potty training little boys... Is it just me, or is potty training little boy's harder than normal? I mean, he's roughly 4 months old and he has no problem going in the kitchen (not good) but for whatever reason, will not go outside. I've been repetious and persistent where I take him every time we go outside, I've even placed his leavings there so there's a signal for him but to no avail. He just sits or smells around, never uses the restroom. I also have heard that some Yorkies take anywhere froom 6-9 months to be potty trained and I'm not sure I can handle that long (lol). I mean, I'm willing to try/do anything to get the censor in his little brain to click that grass is okay to pee on... kitchen tile, not so much. When he does go in the kitchen, I normally do the firm "NO" and say "potty outside" and then right away take him outside to the 'spot' and again... just sits there, looks at me and gives that 'are we done yet?' look. From previous puppy raising, they used to say you smoosh thier nose in it and say "NO" firmly, and then take them outside to the spot desginated and hope they eventually get it. I realize the breed is extremely stubborn, yet they are intently intelligent too. Is there a way that I can perhaps 'train' him that outside is where we potty, not in mommy's kitchen? And yet keep the growing up experience a positive one. We need your help!!
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07-29-2007, 05:54 PM | #2 |
Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa
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| Hey Just wanted to say hello and welcome to YT. I live just across the stream. If you want to chat sometime PM me for my number. There are a handful of YT members in this area. The only advice I have is patience and persistance. |
07-29-2007, 06:04 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Omaha, NE
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| Thanks, I may have too (lol). Do I just keep on, do I smoosh his nose in it and clap like the puppy teacher suggested so it gets his attention, and then immediately take him to his 'spot' outside?
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07-29-2007, 06:05 PM | #4 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| Potty Training I have a little boy who is 7 months and very potty trained! After hearing all about how difficult it is to potty train yorkies, I found that I had no problem. What I would recommend is not giving the firm no because to him it's like you are telling him he's not allowed to go to the bathroom which will then lead to him hiding and peeing somewhere that you don't know about. Dogs can really understand the tone of your voice. With my puppy I just said his name in a disappointed manner and then put him outside. When he would do his thing outside I would praise him like crazy, give him a treat even, and made sure I said the word potty so that he would learn what that meant. Also in the mornings when you let him out he will most likely have to poop so make sure you give him more than enough time to go... they have to think too much for some reason ha ha. I was also told to time his feeding so that I would know when he has to go but I have yet to do that because I figure he's a growing puppy and needs the nutrients and what not. Good Luck!! Allison |
07-29-2007, 06:12 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Omaha, NE
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| Ok so no more firm "NO's", just the disappointed, "Newieeeee" and take him to his spot outside, over and over and over and over. I heard giving treats for potty wasn't good because some dogs 'fake pee' (lol).
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07-29-2007, 06:16 PM | #6 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| Well you won't be giving him treats forever for it so let him fake pee ha ha! I never yelled at Scout for doing anything in the house and he is great now... Yorkies demand respect (a little too much) so if you keep him happy he'll keep you happy! My only problem now is that Scout doesn't bark much so if I'm not paying attention to him he will pee by the front door... but I can't complain too much it's half my fault and at least I know that he knows what the rules are... Again Good Luck!!!!
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07-29-2007, 06:22 PM | #7 |
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| Postive reinforcement is definitely the best. I think I would say "NO" and "Outside", if I caught him in the act. Rubbing the nose in it never has been proven to be effective. Some just take a while. They're like children, not all will be trained at the same age, and not every dog responds to the same type of training. some are trained at 4 months, some take a year. Some swear by crate training, I have never been able to keep mine confined to a crate. Some train to pee pads. I have a doggie door, and have two 7 month old girls that are good most of the time, but do occasionally pee in the kitchen. They are confined to the laundry area with access to the doggie door for most of the day. My 18 month olds are trained for the most part, but the male does want to lift his leg inside, occasionally. I may not be able to help you, but we can complain about them together. |
07-29-2007, 06:30 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Omaha, NE
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| Ok cool, thanks for the continuing support and advice on PT.
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08-01-2007, 07:38 AM | #9 |
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| one more thing I have found out. if the grass is damp from dew or rain, forget it wicket is not getting his privates wet he will not pee, wicket is 5mos old and we still have problems. |
08-01-2007, 10:47 AM | #10 |
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| Definetly don't squash his nose in it. I think the only thing that teaches is that it smells and belongs on your nose. I'd keep taking it outside, and maybe stay out there long enough that he has to go, then give him his treat. Do you crate him at night? If you get a small enough crate he won't go in it, and then in the morning you can take him right out, and he'll have to go. Just some tricks I used.
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08-01-2007, 11:34 AM | #11 |
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| I don't agree with putting their nose in it. Have you thought about a potty pad in the kitchen? is he hiking his leg or squatting. If I leave a small round spot of grass longer than the rest, they use it as their hiking post, along with tree's, edging, chair legs, flowers, wheelbarrow. Maybe some of the scented spray on the grass would entice him to potty outside... Good luck to you, it can be so frustrating!!!! We've all been there! HANG IN THERE!!
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08-07-2007, 07:11 PM | #12 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern California
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| My 5 year old "little boy" My Yorkie, Max, is my life. I would do anything for him. I have made him so high maintenance he's almost intolerable. We go for walks at 4am just so I dont feel guilty leaving him all day with his brother Chili. Max has the ability to go outside 24/7. He does not pee inside when I am home. He does not pee inside at night. He pees inside when I am away from the house. Even if I am away 5 minutes or all day. He is showing me who is boss....MAX!!! I dont know what to do anymore. I have gone through 3 gallons (yes 3 gallons...stop laughing) of Folex carpet cleaner!!! No, I dont crate him and wont... I know, I know Casesar Milan would be sooooo mad at me!!!
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08-07-2007, 10:11 PM | #13 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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| Have you considered using pee pee pads? Did you get him from a breeder? It is possible that the breeder started training him on pads so he is confused. My maltese is 3 months old and has learned to go on his pads; he rarely has an accident. His breeder also had him using pads, but he'd sometimes confuse rugs for pads when I brought him home hehe. I fixed that by getting him a litter box & putting his pad in that. Now for the most part he goes potty in the right spot and even races to his litter box in the middle of playing (toy in mouth and all lol). If I take him out for walks he won't pee on the grass, but he will poop on it lol I wouldn't use his name to scold him as it may cause him to stop understanding what you want him to do when you say his name. You should say his name to get his attention. Otherwise it ends up being something like Max means look at me, Max means go to the bathroom, Max means good boy, Max means bad boy, Max means lets play, etc. (or human version - Molly go to bed, Molly go to work, Molly wash the dishes, Molly come here, Molly start cooking, etc). See what I'm saying? If you use his name to mean multiple things he may stop knowing what it means and may just ignore it not knowing what it is you want him to do. Desiree |
08-08-2007, 04:43 AM | #14 |
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| With Cody if the grass touches his butt he won't step on the grass at all. If he goes in the house I tell him no, pop his butt, (as small as he is that's pretty much a tap but he thinks I've killed him) take him outside and when he goes in the house he gets a diaper put on. He hates the diaper. Maybe change the spot you're taking him to. When we first got Cody we had to keep him out there for about 10-15 mins walking him around before he would go.
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08-08-2007, 06:54 AM | #15 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California
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| I don't think boys are any harder to train, at least mine weren't. But every puppy is different so there is no one way to train. You will get lots of excellent advise from everyone here and try to find what works best for your pup. Mine are both inside and outside trained. I did use an x-pen at first not a crate, did the outrageous praise and special treat reward. My boys are twins so the difference in what works well for one puppy, not so well for another was very apparent to me. I agree that training should be positive, so the never use the dog's name to correct, never punish for mistakes is an absolute. But I read somewhere that it was ok to "correct" the accident. Sounds stupid I know but saying "bad potty" to a puddle on the floor seemed to be what made the whole thing click for mine. Also try to remember that it isn't linear. Puppies will have good and not so good days. Patience and persistence is what matters. When all is said though, I remember what their trainer said in one of their early classes. One lady was really having issues with her pug puppy. The trainer gave her many suggestions then reminded her to keep perspective. The puppy is a living, breathing creature who depends on you for everything and will give you unquestioning devotion - carpet is a floor covering --- which is more important? |
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